Nightblade pve build help

Bingeee

Hello, I'm a returning stamina nightblade and I haven't played in a long long time.

I'm not fussed about being the best DPS in the world but I want high DPS but good survivability as I solo a lot. I'm currently a 2H and Bow build as Im finding 2handed skills useful to survive like Brawler and Rally. This is my starter build for now with 0 trials complete and 300 champion points.

Race: redguard

Gear, all divine and stamina enchant
Helm: Velidreth,medium
Shoulders: Velidreth,medium
Gloves: mechanical acuity,medium
Chest:mechanical acuity,heavy
Waist:mechanical acuity,medium
Legs:mechanical acuity, medium
Boots: Briarheart,medium
Ring: Briarheart, wep damage enchant
Ring: briarheart, wep damage enchant
Neck: Briarheart, wep damage enchant
Front bar: briarheart greatsword,infused
Back bar: mechanical acuity bow,nirn
Both weps have weapon damage enchants

Skills
Front bar: suprise attack, killer, brawler, rally, relentless focus, flawless dawnbreaker

Back bar: poison injection, endless hail, rearming trap, razor caltrop, leeching strikes, incapacitating strike

Am I playing all wrong with this build? If so does anyone have any tips to make it better? I don't feel I'm trial ready yet and I'm thinking hear from the trials will help me but I'm looking for tips to get me trial ready.

Thanks in advance.

Pajor

Try this website - http://deltiasgaming.com/eso-stamina-nightblade-dps-build/#Melee

It might give you a little more insight of the stamblade.

DMuehlhausen

Klasen wrote: »

Try this website - http://deltiasgaming.com/eso-stamina-nightblade-dps-build/#Melee

It might give you a little more insight of the stamblade.

Is Deltia's even close to current anymore? I thought he stopped playing shortly after Morrowind.

Bingeee

Thanks for the reply, I did check that site out but it's mainly DW and couldn't find any good 2handed builds

Pajor

DMuehlhausen wrote: »

Klasen wrote: »

Try this website - http://deltiasgaming.com/eso-stamina-nightblade-dps-build/#Melee

It might give you a little more insight of the stamblade.

Is Deltia's even close to current anymore? I thought he stopped playing shortly after Morrowind.

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I'm not sure, I was just looking for links to help out.

Pajor

For me personally I am a stamblade that uses bow as main weapon and 2H for buffs and it works great in PVP, dungeons normal and vet, and also maelstrom arena. But to make 2H the main bar, that I am not sure. Sorry I couldn't be much help.

Bingeee

Interesting, if you don't mind me asking what build are you running, gear and skills for your setup?

BozzyTheDrummer

DMuehlhausen wrote: »

Klasen wrote: »

Try this website - http://deltiasgaming.com/eso-stamina-nightblade-dps-build/#Melee

It might give you a little more insight of the stamblade.

Is Deltia's even close to current anymore? I thought he stopped playing shortly after Morrowind.

I thought he stopped playing when he made that video over a year ago saying he was done making ESO content for his channel, but here is is making ESO content again.

I have been informed by others that I know, to not rely on his site anymore as it most likely isn't up to date, but i don't really know. I still refer to his site on occasion.

Bingeee

Thanks for your help about the site, like I said I had a quick look but couldn't see anything relating to 2h/bow build

BozzyTheDrummer

Klasen wrote: »

For me personally I am a stamblade that uses bow as main weapon and 2H for buffs and it works great in PVP, dungeons normal and vet, and also maelstrom arena. But to make 2H the main bar, that I am not sure. Sorry I couldn't be much help.

this is what I do with my Stambalde. Bow on the main and 2H on the back for buffs. Along with 5/5 of Hircines Veneer, my guy is able to handle his own pretty good at the moment.

jlmurra2

Here's a more current one. It seems to be what you are looking for:

https://alcasthq.com/eso-stamina-nightblade-gank-build-pvp/

Bingeee

Thaanks for the alcast link, sorry I should have said that I'm looking for PVE build. I don't play PvP at all, just played to get the skills I needed. My bad

Katahdin

If you're not worried about top level dps and just want to do overland content solo and normal dungeons and trials, 2H is ok.

At least right now, you won't be welcome in most vet dungeons and all vet trials because you can't put out the dps that dual wield does. That might change with Summerset but not sure

On bow bar, I would use endless hail, draining shot, vigor, poison injection and lethal arrow

For 2H skills bar, I use executioner, relentless focus, rally, surprise attack and ambush. Get their health down to <25% then hit with executioner for the damage bonus

jlmurra2

Bingeee wrote: »

Thaanks for the alcast link, sorry I should have said that I'm looking for PVE build. I don't play PvP at all, just played to get the skills I needed. My bad

I'm using it on my stamina Nightblade in both PVP, and PVE, and so far it's well balanced. There is less dps, but it makes up for it in survivability. A glass cannon PVE build that focuses all resource on stamina must sacrifice some of the survivability you stated you wanted when soloing.

Bingeee

That makes me sad that 2h build is not welcome in vet dungeons. I prefer being able to survive while I learn mechanics for the boss fights. As dw I was just dying a lot haha. other than vigor is there any good survival skills for DW stamblades

Bingeee

Okay thanks jlmurra2

geonsocal

heck @Bingeee ...i'm looking at your set up and thinking - dang, that looks sweet...

wow, that should be some serious burst damage if you time it right...

I have my redguard stamblade set up with 2H/bow also...

he's using 5pc spriggans on 2H, 5pc markmans on bow, and 2pc velidreth - 5 medium/2 heavy...

on his 2H bar i'm only using rally and executioner...i kept ambush for gap closing and also surprise attack...the other skill is shadowy disguise with incap ult...

mostly just hacking and slashing in melee range...

I just pvp though...

Katahdin

Bingeee wrote: »

That makes me sad that 2h build is not welcome in vet dungeons. I prefer being able to survive while I learn mechanics for the boss fights. As dw I was just dying a lot haha. other than vigor is there any good survival skills for DW stamblades

You're gona die while learning, no real way around that.

You need to play smart. If you have at least 17-18k health with food, not standing in stupid and your positioning is correct, your healer should be able to keep you alive without rally. You can slot vigor, it's better than rally anyway

I've done almost all vet dungeons and 2 of the vet trials in my stam blade without rally and for the trials, without vigor

With dual weild there is deadly cloak that does aoe damage and gives you some damage mitigation

jlmurra2

Bingeee wrote: »

Okay thanks jlmurra2

You're welcome.

Bingeee

@geonsocal it seems good when I'm doing dungeons and stuff like it looks like I'm doing lots of damage but as I'm kinda new and returning I have no idea if it's good or not! My wep damage is close to 4k and I never run out of stamina I sit at 17k health with food and about 36k stamina. But I just pve

Bingeee

Thanks @Katahdin for biginner into DW what gear do you recommend? Like what set on front bar and back, I can craft nearly everything. Also you mentioned deadly cloak, would mirage also help with survival??

Katahdin

Hundings is a good set that is easy to get
I use hundings on my vet stamblade.
Briar heart is also not bad while you gather a better set or try mechanical acuity

Right now I run hundings, VO and veledreth, but VO is a trials set so you'll need to build up to be able to get that.

Next update all 2h weaps will count as 2 gear slots to you win lose the second 5pc bonus if you set up right

Deadly cloak is better because it also givs damage. In boss fights it's all about keeping up damage over time, not burst. You can't sustain burst in a prolonged fight

TheUrbanWizard

@Bingeee if your killing and not dying in vet dungeons the vast, vast majority of players won't care that you use 2h.

Why do people assume that every dw user will pull more dps than every 2h user? It's all about whose hands are on the controller.

Anyway, your skill selection and gear seems decent enough, it's just a matter of carrying on gaining cp and playing around with other sets, like hundings and spriggans etc. Also remember you can run 5 5 2 in a few weeks aswell.

Btw don't bother with lethal arrow and draining shot as someone suggested lol, keep using hail, poison inject, caltrops.

Have fun!

Bingeee

@TheUrbanWizard thanks a lot for your help

Katahdin

TheUrbanWizard wrote: »

@Bingeee if your killing and not dying in vet dungeons the vast, vast majority of players won't care that you use 2h.

Why do people assume that every dw user will pull more dps than every 2h user? It's all about whose hands are on the controller.

Anyway, your skill selection and gear seems decent enough, it's just a matter of carrying on gaining cp and playing around with other sets, like hundings and spriggans etc. Also remember you can run 5 5 2 in a few weeks aswell

Btw don't bother with lethal arrow and draining shot as someone suggested lol, keep using hail, poison inject, caltrops.

Have fun!

I should have been clearer

I use Lethal Arrow and Draining Shot when soloing overland content only. DS for extra room, and heal in mobs and LA for one-shots cause it's fun

I do not use them for group content. I use caltrops and beast trap instead

Bingeee

@Katahdin that is for your help, I may try 5 MA 5 Hundings and 3 agility DW set up while I wait and see if 2h gets better with update. Thanks for the help

Katahdin

Bingeee wrote: »

@Katahdin that is for your help, I may try 5 MA 5 Hundings and 3 agility DW set up while I wait and see if 2h gets better with update. Thanks for the help

youre welcome

That sounds like a good plan since you already have MA. Hundings is better than briar imo

If you want to look at dps, have a look at rotations and how the top dpsers are achieving that. Get your own or use a friends test dummy to practice

good luck

Bingeee

@Katahdin what do you recommend my crit chance be at and wep damage?

Katahdin

Bingeee wrote: »

@Katahdin what do you recommend my crit chance be at and wep damage?

I am not home but iirc my crit is @55-60%
Weap damage on my DW bar unbuffed is @3600, and 2700 on the bow bar. I've seen DW as high as 4500+ with group and self buffs.

It's so much less on the bow because I lose the extra enchant and hundings 5pc bonus when I switch. Will be nice to have that when summerset drops.

I hope i'm remembering correctly. I've been playing with it by changing enchants and traits to push it a bit higher. Right now I am using the warrior mundas.

I still need to work on rotation though

Bingeee

@Katahdin okay well for now IL run Hundings on front bar and MA on back bar so caltrop and hail will proc the 100% crit for 5 seconds a lot. Rotation IL problem probs keep trap, caltrops, hail, injection, rending slashes, leeching strikes andd relentless focus up at all times and in-between just Spam suprise attack. LA between all and see how the sustain goes but I may have to chuck a few Heavy attacks for more sustain

Katahdin

Bingeee wrote: »

@Katahdin okay well for now IL run Hundings on front bar and MA on back bar so caltrop and hail will proc the 100% crit for 5 seconds a lot. Rotation IL problem probs keep trap, caltrops, hail, injection, rending slashes, leeching strikes andd relentless focus up at all times and in-between just Spam suprise attack. LA between all and see how the sustain goes but I may have to chuck a few Heavy attacks for more sustain

Yup you got the idea down. It's just muscle memory after that.