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I really wish...

Micah_Bayer
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That 100 of my transmute stones doesn't go into thin air when eso plus runs out..Right now I am rebuilding my setup and I need 100 stones to reform the traits...Hmmm I really could use those hundred stones back now..What is the most profitable way to grind those stones? I got 2 from vet dungeons and pvp..which I love I rarely get any except for when the campaign ends. I got three rewards of the worthy with no geod in it.
Edited by Micah_Bayer on April 30, 2018 3:37PM
  • starkerealm
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    Ouch.

    I did not realize that the Transmute limit was halved for non-plus members.
  • maltinkilic
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    Daily pledges. If done in veteran hm, each pledge gives 50 stone when you turn in the quest.
  • Micah_Bayer
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    Daily pledges. If done in veteran hm, each pledge gives 50 stone when you turn in the quest.

    Well that isn't so bad. I had no idea. Thank you
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    Daily pledges. If done in veteran hm, each pledge gives 50 stone when you turn in the quest.

    No, they give you a box that can contain up to 10 stones, but usually only have 1 or 2.
  • maltinkilic
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    Well it's my luck then. Because whenever I open them I get 50. And since I get 50 I have only opened 4-5 of them.
  • Micah_Bayer
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    Daily pledges. If done in veteran hm, each pledge gives 50 stone when you turn in the quest.

    No, they give you a box that can contain up to 10 stones, but usually only have 1 or 2.

    So they don't give 50 once done in hard mode?
  • Apache_Kid
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    Well it's my luck then. Because whenever I open them I get 50. And since I get 50 I have only opened 4-5 of them.

    That's impossible.
  • Micah_Bayer
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    Daily pledges. If done in veteran hm, each pledge gives 50 stone when you turn in the quest.

    No, they give you a box that can contain up to 10 stones, but usually only have 1 or 2.

    It's not even that that limit is halved by the way..Its that if you have 200 stones and eso plus runs out. 100 just vanishes.
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    Wait, so it’s not like the craftbag and the bank? When you lose plus, you’re stuff is still in the bank, you are just over the limit. You can’t add anything but nothing is destroyed. You just need to get below your limit to add things. Is that not the case for crystals?
  • maltinkilic
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    The thing is there are different types transmute geodes. The ones I get most transmute stones are the ones I get from pledges after I complete them on vet hm.
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    Wait, so it’s not like the craftbag and the bank? When you lose plus, you’re stuff is still in the bank, you are just over the limit. You can’t add anything but nothing is destroyed. You just need to get below your limit to add things. Is that not the case for crystals?

    No if you have 200 and eso plus runs out. It gets changed to 100 because you are over the limit.
  • Danikat
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    Are you sure they vanish when ESO+ runs out?

    It doesn't work that way with anything else. If you have items in your craft bag when your sub runs out they stay there and you can still use them (in fact they'll be used before ones in your inventory), you just can't add any more. Same with extra items in your house or in your bank.

    If transmutation stones are being deleted from your account when your sub runs out that sounds like it's probably bugged. And quite concerning considering the number of people (especially on Xbox) who regularly have trouble getting their sub to actually renew.
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  • starkerealm
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    Daily pledges. If done in veteran hm, each pledge gives 50 stone when you turn in the quest.

    No, they give you a box that can contain up to 10 stones, but usually only have 1 or 2.

    So they don't give 50 once done in hard mode?

    I can log in and check, but no. The 50s are gold geodes. Vet Hard Mode clears award purple geodes, which are either 1-10 or 1-25, and I can't remember which right now. To be fair, you can also get blue or purple geodes from killing a boss (or maybe only the final boss) in a dungeon, regardless of difficulty. But that is random.

    The only reliable source of gold geodes that I know of off hand is PvP. You'll get one gold geode from your first Rewards of the Worthy packet each day. That one caps at 50, but it is random. (Also, the first of the day thing is account wide.)
  • Micah_Bayer
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    Danikat wrote: »
    Are you sure they vanish when ESO+ runs out?

    It doesn't work that way with anything else. If you have items in your craft bag when your sub runs out they stay there and you can still use them (in fact they'll be used before ones in your inventory), you just can't add any more. Same with extra items in your house or in your bank.

    If transmutation stones are being deleted from your account when your sub runs out that sounds like it's probably bugged. And quite concerning considering the number of people (especially on Xbox) who regularly have trouble getting their sub to actually renew.

    I am positive it runs out.
  • maltinkilic
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    Danikat wrote: »
    Are you sure they vanish when ESO+ runs out?

    It doesn't work that way with anything else. If you have items in your craft bag when your sub runs out they stay there and you can still use them (in fact they'll be used before ones in your inventory), you just can't add any more. Same with extra items in your house or in your bank.

    If transmutation stones are being deleted from your account when your sub runs out that sounds like it's probably bugged. And quite concerning considering the number of people (especially on Xbox) who regularly have trouble getting their sub to actually renew.

    Don't confuse transmutation stones with an item. Bank space is doubled during eso+ and will return to normal when it is expires. So if we overstock items it stays there. Which one would be destroyed else? My motif, my golen ring or my essence of stamina. They can't just destroy hlf the items there randomly. It is a bank after all and I deposited there for safe keeping.

    Transmutation stone is different however. They are currency. If you loose eso+ and have 200 stones, you loose half. Simple as that.
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    Daily pledges. If done in veteran hm, each pledge gives 50 stone when you turn in the quest.

    Is this a post from CNN of the ESO forums or did you mistype 5?

    This is 100% false. The only thing that gives 50 stones that I know of is the end of campaign reward box from Vivec.

  • Shadowmaster
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    Danikat wrote: »
    Are you sure they vanish when ESO+ runs out?

    If you have more than 100 at that point, yes. This is the same as if you try and open a geode when you are already maxed out on stones.

    ^ /helpful response


    Try it, its a great way to waste one of the most valuable commodities in the game. Im sure they will fix it when they are done buffing the same old textures to resell in crown store.

    ^ /sarcasm
  • maltinkilic
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    Daily pledges. If done in veteran hm, each pledge gives 50 stone when you turn in the quest.

    Is this a post from CNN of the ESO forums or did you mistype 5?

    This is 100% false. The only thing that gives 50 stones that I know of is the end of campaign reward box from Vivec.

    Ok then. It's my mistake. I have a lot of geodes in my inventory I thought they are from vet hm pledges. Thanks for correction.
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    Daily pledges. If done in veteran hm, each pledge gives 50 stone when you turn in the quest.

    No, they give you a box that can contain up to 10 stones, but usually only have 1 or 2.

    It's not even that that limit is halved by the way..Its that if you have 200 stones and eso plus runs out. 100 just vanishes.

    Yeah, that part seriously stings.

    You actually got me to check my account, and make sure my subscription runs out the day after I get paid, rather than the day before.
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    Daily pledges. If done in veteran hm, each pledge gives 50 stone when you turn in the quest.

    Is this a post from CNN of the ESO forums or did you mistype 5?

    This is 100% false. The only thing that gives 50 stones that I know of is the end of campaign reward box from Vivec.

    I think the end of campaign rewards from the non-CP 30 day also pays out with a guaranteed 50. (Though I'm not sure.)

    There's also gold boxes you get from Rewards for the Worthy which can contain 50, but usually have 4.
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    The extra stones do not go away, you simply can't add more until you're <100 again.

    You lose nothing.

    And pledges have never given out 50 stones in anything other than Dev mode.

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  • Micah_Bayer
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    The extra stones do not go away, you simply can't add more until you're <100 again.

    You lose nothing.

    And pledges have never given out 50 stones in anything other than Dev mode.

    They do go away. It happened to me and a few of my friends.
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    Had 200/200 crystals.

    my ESO+ ran out.

    Now I have 200/100

    WTH are you whining about?
    Edited by Kikke on April 30, 2018 4:12PM
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  • starkerealm
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    The extra stones do not go away, you simply can't add more until you're <100 again.

    You lose nothing.

    And pledges have never given out 50 stones in anything other than Dev mode.

    They do go away. It happened to me and a few of my friends.

    Yeah, the transmute crystals work a bit differently from other ESO+ limited items. The game will actively purge any stones you have above cap, instead of preventing you from collecting them.

    Now, it would be nice if these worked like, basically, every other finite resource in the game. "You hit the cap? Spend some before you can get more." But, as is, it really burns if your ESO+ lapses for 12 hours because they payment hit your account at the wrong moment.
  • DurzoBlint13
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    Daily pledges. If done in veteran hm, each pledge gives 50 stone when you turn in the quest.

    Is this a post from CNN of the ESO forums or did you mistype 5?

    This is 100% false. The only thing that gives 50 stones that I know of is the end of campaign reward box from Vivec.

    I think the end of campaign rewards from the non-CP 30 day also pays out with a guaranteed 50. (Though I'm not sure.)

    There's also gold boxes you get from Rewards for the Worthy which can contain 50, but usually have 4.

    end-of-campaign rewards from any 30 campaign give you 50 stones, not just non-CP.... like Vivec. Of course I think you have to get to tier 3 to get it, but that is only 100K AP
  • Micah_Bayer
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    kikkehs wrote: »
    Had 200/200 crystals.

    my ESO+ ran out.

    Now I have 200/100

    WTH are you whining about?

    Must be a recent change or a bug because my stones are gone
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    Luckily ESO+ empties my inventory (and bank) into the craft bag so I can fit all those uncraked geodes in my inventory

    Right now I am trying to farm scalecaller enough then transmute guidance while I still have ESO plus.
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    Daily pledges. If done in veteran hm, each pledge gives 50 stone when you turn in the quest.

    Guaranteed 50 transmutation stones from each veteran HM pledge? You and I wish!
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    kikkehs wrote: »
    Had 200/200 crystals.

    my ESO+ ran out.

    Now I have 200/100

    WTH are you whining about?

    Must be a recent change or a bug because my stones are gone

    Okay, contact customer support.
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    Wait, so it’s not like the craftbag and the bank? When you lose plus, you’re stuff is still in the bank, you are just over the limit. You can’t add anything but nothing is destroyed. You just need to get below your limit to add things. Is that not the case for crystals?

    No if you have 200 and eso plus runs out. It gets changed to 100 because you are over the limit.

    Looks like an easy solution: As soon as you get 200... Use 100 if your ESO+ has a chance to run out.... Or just RENEW your subscription... or don't let it run out....
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