Raz is trash

Aebaradath

Khajiit, Argonians, Mer... all are equally useless.

Turelus

Guarlet wrote: »

Barely anyone can do anything right without the [Player Character in any RPG], so it's kind of a moot point lol

This is the reason I deliberately give NPC's the worst possible life advice when they ask for it.

Kalgert

GeorgeBlack wrote: »

One more thing. Two actually.
I love reading comments like "you dont like it go play something else".
First you appear pittyful by trying to allianate someone in order to reinforce your sense of belonging to your little bubble world.
Second. I would loooove to see you make me leave Eso. Come on show me. Kick me out the door.

When someone is clearly showing they are not enjoying the game as it was made, then only thing they have left is to leave said game (Because why play a game when you don't enjoy it?).

The game simply isn't for you. Or at the very least, the game setting isn't for you, so why torture yourself with the game? It's the same thing I ask Roleplayers who complained about not being able to wear "Better-looking gear" for Roleplay, but didn't want to play the game to get said gear, why play the game if you don't like it, or find it boring?

GeorgeBlack wrote: »

Kalgert wrote: »

GeorgeBlack wrote: »

dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »

GeorgeBlack wrote: »

I never cared for fluff.
The prophet was a nicely done character. Tharn was interesting.
Countless characters in Eso seemed much more interesting than razumdar and the morag tong D elf.

Since Eso is a mature age game they should do more realistic writting. More genuine.
I dont understand why Zenimax wont include cursing or X rated language. There's nothing wrong with a little bit of that in order to make encounters with NPCs more engaging.
Countless other games do.

Eso language is lukewarm and boring after a bit

Edit Nayru? Is that her name? So forgetable

The voice actors are terrific.
The script given to them is weak. Not the content. The language.
More realism. More adult language where it is appropriate. Other games can do it. Eso should be one

Trashy language isn't quite the same as adult language. If anything it is puerile or infantile. I can assure you that insulting someone with a sharp wit is a lot more effective than saying M-F'er all the time. Having read things like Beowulf, Canterbury Tales, Shakespeare and so forth it is my view that you can speak in deep adult concepts without debasing yourself in lowly art. Why ask this game series to be something it is not?

Spare me mate. Spare me the attitude
You are exaggerating or pretend not to see a viable middle.
Typical online crap.
Do you feed your ego by trying to appear better than others?
Empty words. Please tell me that you dont own a TV or that you dont go to the movies because cosrse language is benith you.

Btw I dont see any sharp wit in any of the eso scripts.
Only chatter that is not immersing and just totally risk averse. Nothing impressive.
I would not refer to Shakespear or try to link it with the game. Pretentious.

If you think that warriors and assassins would not say "fvck" and "shiet" in stressful scenarios every now and then, or even raise their voices then YOU are full of pretentious shiet.

Now you're sounding like the pretentious one.

I suggest you quit while you're ahead.

I dont compromise

I don't have to either, and yet I'm still remaining respectful towards you. Don't lose whatever undeserved goodwill I have left for you, and quit while you're ahead.

GeorgeBlack

Kalgert wrote: »

GeorgeBlack wrote: »

One more thing. Two actually.
I love reading comments like "you dont like it go play something else".
First you appear pittyful by trying to allianate someone in order to reinforce your sense of belonging to your little bubble world.
Second. I would loooove to see you make me leave Eso. Come on show me. Kick me out the door.

When someone is clearly showing they are not enjoying the game as it was made, then only thing they have left is to leave said game (Because why play a game when you don't enjoy it?).

The game simply isn't for you. Or at the very least, the game setting isn't for you, so why torture yourself with the game? It's the same thing I ask Roleplayers who complained about not being able to wear "Better-looking gear" for Roleplay, but didn't want to play the game to get said gear, why play the game if you don't like it, or find it boring?

GeorgeBlack wrote: »

Kalgert wrote: »

GeorgeBlack wrote: »

dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »

GeorgeBlack wrote: »

I never cared for fluff.
The prophet was a nicely done character. Tharn was interesting.
Countless characters in Eso seemed much more interesting than razumdar and the morag tong D elf.

Since Eso is a mature age game they should do more realistic writting. More genuine.
I dont understand why Zenimax wont include cursing or X rated language. There's nothing wrong with a little bit of that in order to make encounters with NPCs more engaging.
Countless other games do.

Eso language is lukewarm and boring after a bit

Edit Nayru? Is that her name? So forgetable

The voice actors are terrific.
The script given to them is weak. Not the content. The language.
More realism. More adult language where it is appropriate. Other games can do it. Eso should be one

Trashy language isn't quite the same as adult language. If anything it is puerile or infantile. I can assure you that insulting someone with a sharp wit is a lot more effective than saying M-F'er all the time. Having read things like Beowulf, Canterbury Tales, Shakespeare and so forth it is my view that you can speak in deep adult concepts without debasing yourself in lowly art. Why ask this game series to be something it is not?

Spare me mate. Spare me the attitude
You are exaggerating or pretend not to see a viable middle.
Typical online crap.
Do you feed your ego by trying to appear better than others?
Empty words. Please tell me that you dont own a TV or that you dont go to the movies because cosrse language is benith you.

Btw I dont see any sharp wit in any of the eso scripts.
Only chatter that is not immersing and just totally risk averse. Nothing impressive.
I would not refer to Shakespear or try to link it with the game. Pretentious.

If you think that warriors and assassins would not say "fvck" and "shiet" in stressful scenarios every now and then, or even raise their voices then YOU are full of pretentious shiet.

Now you're sounding like the pretentious one.

I suggest you quit while you're ahead.

I dont compromise

I don't have to either, and yet I'm still remaining respectful towards you. Don't lose whatever undeserved goodwill I have left for you, and quit while you're ahead.

You make a big deal out of nothing.

Here's what I think:
There are better chatacters than razumdar.
There is too much comic relief to the point where it's not fresh anymore.
Risk averse tactics show lack of quality and creativity.

Here's what I dont find pretentious crap:
'I like razumdar"
"I like the witty dialoque of Eso"
"I dont think that eso needs to be more mature friendly in language"

Here's what I find pretentious crap:
Ellaborate paragraphs that supporting the statues quo.

DanteYoda

I'm AD and i really dislike Raz.. hes just really really full of himself..

i like Ayrenn though she seems genuine.

Tharn is funny as.

jedtb16_ESO

GeorgeBlack wrote: »

Kalgert wrote: »

GeorgeBlack wrote: »

One more thing. Two actually.
I love reading comments like "you dont like it go play something else".
First you appear pittyful by trying to allianate someone in order to reinforce your sense of belonging to your little bubble world.
Second. I would loooove to see you make me leave Eso. Come on show me. Kick me out the door.

When someone is clearly showing they are not enjoying the game as it was made, then only thing they have left is to leave said game (Because why play a game when you don't enjoy it?).

The game simply isn't for you. Or at the very least, the game setting isn't for you, so why torture yourself with the game? It's the same thing I ask Roleplayers who complained about not being able to wear "Better-looking gear" for Roleplay, but didn't want to play the game to get said gear, why play the game if you don't like it, or find it boring?

GeorgeBlack wrote: »

Kalgert wrote: »

GeorgeBlack wrote: »

dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »

GeorgeBlack wrote: »

I never cared for fluff.
The prophet was a nicely done character. Tharn was interesting.
Countless characters in Eso seemed much more interesting than razumdar and the morag tong D elf.

Since Eso is a mature age game they should do more realistic writting. More genuine.
I dont understand why Zenimax wont include cursing or X rated language. There's nothing wrong with a little bit of that in order to make encounters with NPCs more engaging.
Countless other games do.

Eso language is lukewarm and boring after a bit

Edit Nayru? Is that her name? So forgetable

The voice actors are terrific.
The script given to them is weak. Not the content. The language.
More realism. More adult language where it is appropriate. Other games can do it. Eso should be one

Trashy language isn't quite the same as adult language. If anything it is puerile or infantile. I can assure you that insulting someone with a sharp wit is a lot more effective than saying M-F'er all the time. Having read things like Beowulf, Canterbury Tales, Shakespeare and so forth it is my view that you can speak in deep adult concepts without debasing yourself in lowly art. Why ask this game series to be something it is not?

Spare me mate. Spare me the attitude
You are exaggerating or pretend not to see a viable middle.
Typical online crap.
Do you feed your ego by trying to appear better than others?
Empty words. Please tell me that you dont own a TV or that you dont go to the movies because cosrse language is benith you.

Btw I dont see any sharp wit in any of the eso scripts.
Only chatter that is not immersing and just totally risk averse. Nothing impressive.
I would not refer to Shakespear or try to link it with the game. Pretentious.

If you think that warriors and assassins would not say "fvck" and "shiet" in stressful scenarios every now and then, or even raise their voices then YOU are full of pretentious shiet.

Now you're sounding like the pretentious one.

I suggest you quit while you're ahead.

I dont compromise

I don't have to either, and yet I'm still remaining respectful towards you. Don't lose whatever undeserved goodwill I have left for you, and quit while you're ahead.

You make a big deal out of nothing.

Here's what I think:
There are better chatacters than razumdar.
There is too much comic relief to the point where it's not fresh anymore.
Risk averse tactics show lack of quality and creativity.

Here's what I dont find pretentious crap:
'I like razumdar"
"I like the witty dialoque of Eso"
"I dont think that eso needs to be more mature friendly in language"

Here's what I find pretentious crap:
Ellaborate paragraphs that supporting the statues quo.

something you have been doing for the whole of this thread.

Kuramas9tails

"Razum-dar is just a simple Khajiit. He seeks the best for all the people of Tamriel. Also, a saddle that won't pinch the tail. One day ...."

adriant1978

Kuramas9tails wrote: »

"Razum-dar is just a simple Khajiit. He seeks the best for all the people of Tamriel. Also, a saddle that won't pinch the tail. One day ...."

Damn, those old base game assets haven't aged so well. Looking forward to seeing him in his new Summerset outfit!

ZOS_Ragnar

We have removed several posts that were off-topic and baiting. Please keep your posts civil and constructive.

MYWARCHILD887

I would take Raz any day over Sun-In-Shadow. I have never wanted to kill a character so bad, then bring her back and kill her again.

Serjustin19

I'm for you, you letting it all out. I unsure what happened with you and Raz. Could be a sour breakup. Or maybe he was right. Or he fell in love with another. It's not our business t know. Of what happened to you and Raz. In honestly I don't blame you. Raz made my cry.

ZiRM

MeWOW!

The_Protagonist

The character I liked the most in game is the Drake of Blades and Captain Regilus, it was really very difficult to say goodbye to her at Brazier.

That story and character are really very well made, simply magnificent and I love it

Edit: typo

Katahdin

Raz along with Cadwell are my two favotive characters in the game. The AD storyline is my favorite because of Raz and the humor laced through it. The other two zones were Meh in comparison for me.

ESO has the best stories and dialog I have seen in a game for a long time, especially for MMOs, since Guild Wars 1 (GW2 story is shallow imo).

Adding more swear words will do nothing and add nothing to improve the dialog and story quality or make it more interesting. If you want swearing, go play the single player portion of any COD game (yes I have played many of them) for that.

(A risk of getting a forum infraction) a few of the milder words might work such as "damn" (iirc that word is used, along with Bas***), but having an NPC say "F-word" and "S-word" does not fit with the social environment in this game. It would be totally out of character.

starlizard70ub17_ESO

zaria wrote: »

Guarlet wrote: »

Barely anyone can do anything right without the [Player Character in any RPG], so it's kind of a moot point lol

Note that you hardly play together with Raz, you and him do different objectives and he tend to leave trails of bodies.

Lyris titanborn is truly useless doing less than 1K dps.
Even the prophet is more useful as he heals you,

This is the reason I always take Tharn with me, he actually can and does kill npcs when we fight.

As for Raz, he's ok. There are a lot worse people out there. Arch-mage Shalidor is completely useless and a bit of a moron, and Naryu was a disappointment.

Orjix

Hey! Someone with thier head on straight, I like you

SorataArisugawa

Sigtric wrote: »

The only NPC in the game worse than Raz is Ayrenn.

as if...
class is not your speciality? Really no one have guessed that!

TelvanniWizard

Yeah, he is a dumb cat. i don´t know why he has so many fans. Seems like a lame character to me. Like the queen.

Enslaved

ZOS_RyanM wrote: »

We have removed several posts that were off-topic and baiting. Please keep your posts civil and constructive.

Yet you kept the OP post.

Ydrisselle

VaranisArano wrote: »

I mean, out of all the people who require my Vestige's help to do everything (Vanus Galerion, Queen Ayrenn, King Emeric, King Jorunn, the Five Companions, Valaste, Sees-All-Colors, King Kurog, the Dark Brotherhood, the Thieves Guild, Naryu, Vivec, Sotha Sil, and many more) at least Raz is funny.

I have found the members of the Thieves Guild pretty funny too. Mostly Velsa

VaranisArano

Ydrisselle wrote: »

VaranisArano wrote: »

I mean, out of all the people who require my Vestige's help to do everything (Vanus Galerion, Queen Ayrenn, King Emeric, King Jorunn, the Five Companions, Valaste, Sees-All-Colors, King Kurog, the Dark Brotherhood, the Thieves Guild, Naryu, Vivec, Sotha Sil, and many more) at least Raz is funny.

I have found the members of the Thieves Guild pretty funny too. Mostly Velsa

The Velsa and Narahni love story was my favorite part of the Thieves Guild quests.

Zordrage

il hope Raz dies in the Story someday....in some bloody and really shameful way...

Just to see the drama on the forums and trigger some Raz fanatics...

yes i love seeing the world burn...

exeeter702

bloodthirstyvampire wrote: »

You heard me, Ayrenns little pet is absolutely useless Can't do anything right without the Vestige but what can you expect from a cat

are you mad I'm sorry

bloodthirstyvampire

Enslaved wrote: »

ZOS_RyanM wrote: »

We have removed several posts that were off-topic and baiting. Please keep your posts civil and constructive.

Yet you kept the OP post.

You see even the mods agree @Enslaved

Enslaved

All I see lately on forums are bait threads, and lack of closing them by mods. yet, they delete or even ban ppl responding in such threads.

"One of best chars in game is terrible"
"Shall we delete classes and sell them in crown crates"
And similar bs.

Aebaradath

bloodthirstyvampire wrote: »

Enslaved wrote: »

ZOS_RyanM wrote: »

We have removed several posts that were off-topic and baiting. Please keep your posts civil and constructive.

Yet you kept the OP post.

You see even the mods agree @Enslaved

No, it doesn't. It shows they don't care when they should just lock useless crap like this and other threads.

Ajaxandriel

Razum is a kind of comical character to me The Elder Scroll of Puss In Boots in Spy Hard crossover

Ajaxandriel wrote: »

"I know that you will support my wishes and serve me as always in this important endeavor.
I am sending one of my agents, the Eye of the Queen known as Razum-dar, to assist you and act as my eyes and ears among the people. Try not to let past grievances color your perspective."

Holy Auri-El ...! Did I read well ?!

Alwinarwe is literaly going to be taken HOSTAGE by the Dominion's mary-sue TYRANT and her infamous AGENT !

Keep hope my lady, my proxy-queen, I'll defeat the vile BOWSUM-DAR and get you free !!

Smaxx

DieAlteHexe wrote: »

Tharn is pretty amusing at times.

Oh, yeah, definitely! I just love his German version, cause he's basically talking with the (dub) voice of Hugh Laurie (i.e. Dr. Gregory House). It so totally fits his arrogant character, especially when he tries to provoke Lyris and the other Companions.