bottleofsyrup wrote: »I think next update is supposed to improve this.
Yep, this is a known issue. It's especially bad in place like Dragonstar Arena. I usually let my team know to pause before the final boss so I can relog and get my fps from 30ish to 90+. They said they were addressing some of what causes it on the PTS but I have yet to test those claims.
Anotherone773 wrote: »My FPS has been dropping since jan and the last month or so the fps drops have taken me to single digits and even crashed my graphics card. I use to get 100 fps and 50-60 under really heavy loads. I messed with addons and even lowered graphics settings to medium and then further reduced some of the settings and nothing helps. I think its the client and something to do with one of the patches early this year.
Doctordarkspawn wrote: »bottleofsyrup wrote: »I think next update is supposed to improve this.
It's supposed to add multi-core and thread support, but if it's s memory leak issue it's not gonna help.
Anotherone773 wrote: »My FPS has been dropping since jan and the last month or so the fps drops have taken me to single digits and even crashed my graphics card. I use to get 100 fps and 50-60 under really heavy loads. I messed with addons and even lowered graphics settings to medium and then further reduced some of the settings and nothing helps. I think its the client and something to do with one of the patches early this year.
If you graphics card is crashing, the problem is either in the drivers or the GPU itself, not the game.
Anotherone773 wrote: »Anotherone773 wrote: »My FPS has been dropping since jan and the last month or so the fps drops have taken me to single digits and even crashed my graphics card. I use to get 100 fps and 50-60 under really heavy loads. I messed with addons and even lowered graphics settings to medium and then further reduced some of the settings and nothing helps. I think its the client and something to do with one of the patches early this year.
If you graphics card is crashing, the problem is either in the drivers or the GPU itself, not the game.
Thats not true at all. No other games cause my graphics card to crash. My PC also crashes on occasion when i play ESO. Yet my pc NEVER crashes outside of ESO. The client is what is causing the crashes, not a hardware/firmware problem.
Anotherone773 wrote: »Anotherone773 wrote: »My FPS has been dropping since jan and the last month or so the fps drops have taken me to single digits and even crashed my graphics card. I use to get 100 fps and 50-60 under really heavy loads. I messed with addons and even lowered graphics settings to medium and then further reduced some of the settings and nothing helps. I think its the client and something to do with one of the patches early this year.
If you graphics card is crashing, the problem is either in the drivers or the GPU itself, not the game.
Thats not true at all. No other games cause my graphics card to crash. My PC also crashes on occasion when i play ESO. Yet my pc NEVER crashes outside of ESO. The client is what is causing the crashes, not a hardware/firmware problem.
This is known issue on LIVE server.. I started noticing this problem in Asylum hardmode, i started a trial with great fps, before fight 80-90fps, in fight never droped under 40 fps, and after 4-5 wipes, i get 50-60 fps before fight, and in fight 23-30 fps max (which is unplayeble).. For me there was 2 fixes, one log out to character menu and login again (reload ui doesnt help, or even disabling ALL addons), or restarting trial.. So i was so happy about multicore support on PTS, and i thought it will fix my issue, but sadly not.. FPS is great, but after some time FPS just drops even more then before, in fight Z'maja+1 i get 50fps, and after 5-6 tries it drops to 25-30 fps...
CPU:Ryzen 5 1500x
8Gb ram
Windows 10
Anotherone773 wrote: »Anotherone773 wrote: »My FPS has been dropping since jan and the last month or so the fps drops have taken me to single digits and even crashed my graphics card. I use to get 100 fps and 50-60 under really heavy loads. I messed with addons and even lowered graphics settings to medium and then further reduced some of the settings and nothing helps. I think its the client and something to do with one of the patches early this year.
If you graphics card is crashing, the problem is either in the drivers or the GPU itself, not the game.
Thats not true at all. No other games cause my graphics card to crash. My PC also crashes on occasion when i play ESO. Yet my pc NEVER crashes outside of ESO. The client is what is causing the crashes, not a hardware/firmware problem.
Still.
This only means the problem that makes you GPU crash is only triggered by ESO. Probably other games would trigger it too.
A game can't hang properly functioning hardware with properly functioning drivers.
Also... are you sure it's a GPU crash?
Maybe it's overheating.
In any case, it'd be worth reporting to your drivers' developer or GPU manufacturer if youa re sure it's a GPU crash.
Anotherone773 wrote: »Anotherone773 wrote: »My FPS has been dropping since jan and the last month or so the fps drops have taken me to single digits and even crashed my graphics card. I use to get 100 fps and 50-60 under really heavy loads. I messed with addons and even lowered graphics settings to medium and then further reduced some of the settings and nothing helps. I think its the client and something to do with one of the patches early this year.
If you graphics card is crashing, the problem is either in the drivers or the GPU itself, not the game.
Thats not true at all. No other games cause my graphics card to crash. My PC also crashes on occasion when i play ESO. Yet my pc NEVER crashes outside of ESO. The client is what is causing the crashes, not a hardware/firmware problem.
Different games cause different pressures on the hardware. It's very unlikely that a game will cause a hard computer crash, as opposed to the game simply crashing to the desktop.
The only time my computer has crashed with ESO was when the graphics card was dying.
Anotherone773 wrote: »Anotherone773 wrote: »Anotherone773 wrote: »My FPS has been dropping since jan and the last month or so the fps drops have taken me to single digits and even crashed my graphics card. I use to get 100 fps and 50-60 under really heavy loads. I messed with addons and even lowered graphics settings to medium and then further reduced some of the settings and nothing helps. I think its the client and something to do with one of the patches early this year.
If you graphics card is crashing, the problem is either in the drivers or the GPU itself, not the game.
Thats not true at all. No other games cause my graphics card to crash. My PC also crashes on occasion when i play ESO. Yet my pc NEVER crashes outside of ESO. The client is what is causing the crashes, not a hardware/firmware problem.
Still.
This only means the problem that makes you GPU crash is only triggered by ESO. Probably other games would trigger it too.
A game can't hang properly functioning hardware with properly functioning drivers.
Also... are you sure it's a GPU crash?
Maybe it's overheating.
In any case, it'd be worth reporting to your drivers' developer or GPU manufacturer if youa re sure it's a GPU crash.Anotherone773 wrote: »Anotherone773 wrote: »My FPS has been dropping since jan and the last month or so the fps drops have taken me to single digits and even crashed my graphics card. I use to get 100 fps and 50-60 under really heavy loads. I messed with addons and even lowered graphics settings to medium and then further reduced some of the settings and nothing helps. I think its the client and something to do with one of the patches early this year.
If you graphics card is crashing, the problem is either in the drivers or the GPU itself, not the game.
Thats not true at all. No other games cause my graphics card to crash. My PC also crashes on occasion when i play ESO. Yet my pc NEVER crashes outside of ESO. The client is what is causing the crashes, not a hardware/firmware problem.
Different games cause different pressures on the hardware. It's very unlikely that a game will cause a hard computer crash, as opposed to the game simply crashing to the desktop.
The only time my computer has crashed with ESO was when the graphics card was dying.
Guys until about 7-8 years ago i repaired PCs professionally. Went to school for it, got the little piece of paper and the bumper sticker. Its a software problem,specifically the client. All my drivers are up to date and my video card and my pc works fine for other heavy graphics/heavy CPU programs. Another sign that its the client and not my PC is lowering settings doesnt improve performance. It should but doesnt and in some cases performance got worse. Its not like im playing on ultra and in HD either.
As for pc crashes. Its not a blue screen. The massive memory leak by the client eventually causes the client to lock up sometimes it just crashes to desktop sometimes it locks up the PC so i hard reboot it. Again client problem. If you have a large amount of free memory when you play and you dont play for long periods you probably dont notice the memory leak as it doesnt start affecting performance until your memory gets full of trash because it hasnt dumped. So it takes longer to reach that point. The same may true for the graphics it could have the same memory problem which causes a display driver crash. My display driver recovers but it effectively crashes the game. Sound but no picture. Alt tab to desktop and everything is peachy with graphics. So everything is crashing in the confines of the client not my pc itself.
Anotherone773 wrote: »Anotherone773 wrote: »Anotherone773 wrote: »My FPS has been dropping since jan and the last month or so the fps drops have taken me to single digits and even crashed my graphics card. I use to get 100 fps and 50-60 under really heavy loads. I messed with addons and even lowered graphics settings to medium and then further reduced some of the settings and nothing helps. I think its the client and something to do with one of the patches early this year.
If you graphics card is crashing, the problem is either in the drivers or the GPU itself, not the game.
Thats not true at all. No other games cause my graphics card to crash. My PC also crashes on occasion when i play ESO. Yet my pc NEVER crashes outside of ESO. The client is what is causing the crashes, not a hardware/firmware problem.
Still.
This only means the problem that makes you GPU crash is only triggered by ESO. Probably other games would trigger it too.
A game can't hang properly functioning hardware with properly functioning drivers.
Also... are you sure it's a GPU crash?
Maybe it's overheating.
In any case, it'd be worth reporting to your drivers' developer or GPU manufacturer if youa re sure it's a GPU crash.Anotherone773 wrote: »Anotherone773 wrote: »My FPS has been dropping since jan and the last month or so the fps drops have taken me to single digits and even crashed my graphics card. I use to get 100 fps and 50-60 under really heavy loads. I messed with addons and even lowered graphics settings to medium and then further reduced some of the settings and nothing helps. I think its the client and something to do with one of the patches early this year.
If you graphics card is crashing, the problem is either in the drivers or the GPU itself, not the game.
Thats not true at all. No other games cause my graphics card to crash. My PC also crashes on occasion when i play ESO. Yet my pc NEVER crashes outside of ESO. The client is what is causing the crashes, not a hardware/firmware problem.
Different games cause different pressures on the hardware. It's very unlikely that a game will cause a hard computer crash, as opposed to the game simply crashing to the desktop.
The only time my computer has crashed with ESO was when the graphics card was dying.
Guys until about 7-8 years ago i repaired PCs professionally. Went to school for it, got the little piece of paper and the bumper sticker. Its a software problem,specifically the client. All my drivers are up to date and my video card and my pc works fine for other heavy graphics/heavy CPU programs. Another sign that its the client and not my PC is lowering settings doesnt improve performance. It should but doesnt and in some cases performance got worse. Its not like im playing on ultra and in HD either.
As for pc crashes. Its not a blue screen. The massive memory leak by the client eventually causes the client to lock up sometimes it just crashes to desktop sometimes it locks up the PC so i hard reboot it. Again client problem. If you have a large amount of free memory when you play and you dont play for long periods you probably dont notice the memory leak as it doesnt start affecting performance until your memory gets full of trash because it hasnt dumped. So it takes longer to reach that point. The same may true for the graphics it could have the same memory problem which causes a display driver crash. My display driver recovers but it effectively crashes the game. Sound but no picture. Alt tab to desktop and everything is peachy with graphics. So everything is crashing in the confines of the client not my pc itself.
Anotherone773 wrote: »Anotherone773 wrote: »Anotherone773 wrote: »My FPS has been dropping since jan and the last month or so the fps drops have taken me to single digits and even crashed my graphics card. I use to get 100 fps and 50-60 under really heavy loads. I messed with addons and even lowered graphics settings to medium and then further reduced some of the settings and nothing helps. I think its the client and something to do with one of the patches early this year.
If you graphics card is crashing, the problem is either in the drivers or the GPU itself, not the game.
Thats not true at all. No other games cause my graphics card to crash. My PC also crashes on occasion when i play ESO. Yet my pc NEVER crashes outside of ESO. The client is what is causing the crashes, not a hardware/firmware problem.
Still.
This only means the problem that makes you GPU crash is only triggered by ESO. Probably other games would trigger it too.
A game can't hang properly functioning hardware with properly functioning drivers.
Also... are you sure it's a GPU crash?
Maybe it's overheating.
In any case, it'd be worth reporting to your drivers' developer or GPU manufacturer if youa re sure it's a GPU crash.Anotherone773 wrote: »Anotherone773 wrote: »My FPS has been dropping since jan and the last month or so the fps drops have taken me to single digits and even crashed my graphics card. I use to get 100 fps and 50-60 under really heavy loads. I messed with addons and even lowered graphics settings to medium and then further reduced some of the settings and nothing helps. I think its the client and something to do with one of the patches early this year.
If you graphics card is crashing, the problem is either in the drivers or the GPU itself, not the game.
Thats not true at all. No other games cause my graphics card to crash. My PC also crashes on occasion when i play ESO. Yet my pc NEVER crashes outside of ESO. The client is what is causing the crashes, not a hardware/firmware problem.
Different games cause different pressures on the hardware. It's very unlikely that a game will cause a hard computer crash, as opposed to the game simply crashing to the desktop.
The only time my computer has crashed with ESO was when the graphics card was dying.
Guys until about 7-8 years ago i repaired PCs professionally. Went to school for it, got the little piece of paper and the bumper sticker. Its a software problem,specifically the client. All my drivers are up to date and my video card and my pc works fine for other heavy graphics/heavy CPU programs. Another sign that its the client and not my PC is lowering settings doesnt improve performance. It should but doesnt and in some cases performance got worse. Its not like im playing on ultra and in HD either.
As for pc crashes. Its not a blue screen. The massive memory leak by the client eventually causes the client to lock up sometimes it just crashes to desktop sometimes it locks up the PC so i hard reboot it. Again client problem. If you have a large amount of free memory when you play and you dont play for long periods you probably dont notice the memory leak as it doesnt start affecting performance until your memory gets full of trash because it hasnt dumped. So it takes longer to reach that point. The same may true for the graphics it could have the same memory problem which causes a display driver crash. My display driver recovers but it effectively crashes the game. Sound but no picture. Alt tab to desktop and everything is peachy with graphics. So everything is crashing in the confines of the client not my pc itself.
That paints a different picture to the one you described earlier. Nonetheless, it's still possible that the game is putting a different pressure on ESO than on other things, and that there's a weakness there that is being tested and found out.
With memory leaks I do wonder (a) how long people are logged in before they happen (I know some players never exit from the game even when they're not playing, (b) how often they switch off their machines long enough to clear the memory (again, a lot of people never switch off their computer whereas others, myself included, switch it off every night and whenever they go out for more than a short time), and (c) whether they are using Windows 10, have overclocked any components, have stuff running in the background including a number of open browser windows while playing etc.
I'm not denying that like any software the game has a few issues, the question is how to avoid them or work around them.
Hmm i dont think memory is an issue, because when i get fps drop, my memory usage is same as before.. 60% at max.. And 8gb of ram is just fine for me right now (eso by itself uses 2.2gb max for me)This is known issue on LIVE server.. I started noticing this problem in Asylum hardmode, i started a trial with great fps, before fight 80-90fps, in fight never droped under 40 fps, and after 4-5 wipes, i get 50-60 fps before fight, and in fight 23-30 fps max (which is unplayeble).. For me there was 2 fixes, one log out to character menu and login again (reload ui doesnt help, or even disabling ALL addons), or restarting trial.. So i was so happy about multicore support on PTS, and i thought it will fix my issue, but sadly not.. FPS is great, but after some time FPS just drops even more then before, in fight Z'maja+1 i get 50fps, and after 5-6 tries it drops to 25-30 fps...
CPU:Ryzen 5 1500x
8Gb ram
Windows 10
For one thing, I think your 8GB of Ram is probably an issue. Seems to me that for most resource hungry gaming like ESO, 16GB would be a minimum. I think you would see a significant improvement if you can add another 8 gigs to your computer.
Anotherone773 wrote: »
Higher end hardware is better able to cope with bad software. Lower end or older pcs, mine being the latter, have a bigger struggle with coping with software issues.
More memory will help with memory leak since it gives a bigger buffer before it gets full. That is not an option for most people but reducing the number of programs you have running with ESO can help. For example i always have chrome open on my pc with 3/4 tabs. Closing it would buy me about another GB of memory. Or restarting the client every so often would also solve the issue.
The same should be true with a graphics card. Higher end/newer cards should be able to handle the software issues better. I havent tested if the problem can be lessened with a higher end /newer card.
I am getting a new pc this year, because while i can technically run two clients on recommended settings, my PC is starting to struggle with compensating for bad programing.
Im looking at an 8th gen processor, 32 GB ram, and probably an Optane card. Might go SSD/HDD hybrid though, but im seeing better performance numbers with an optane card in the research i did. I dont think hybrid tech is quite there yet. I think it needs a few more years to really get top notch performance out of it. I dont usually go with high end video cards because they are extortionately priced and not really worth paying the extra when in a couple of years you can pick the same card up for a third of the price or less.Typically a good, moderately priced video card is plenty for games unless your looking for the max experience in which case your going to pay heavily for it.