Execute ! For MagDK

mr1sho

I don't care what the plebs say it's unfair that dk is the only class with no execute hack they gave sorcs two of them at least give us one!

Sixty5

You get Bloodthirsty jewellery this patch, that gives you a pseudo execute, which works pretty nicely with the high constant damage DK deals.

brandonv516

Warden needs it more.

Animus-ESO

I think they should take implosion from sorcs, give them a more useful passive (a damage buff ) and give it to DK's called Immolation.

LeagueTroll

Dude, mag dk got so much buff already. Cc on magsorc suck compare to dk.

beetleklee

I'd prefer better sustain and some better form of defense for pvp. I'm fine with them being less mobile and such, as long as they have something else to make up for it.

ak_pvp

Nah. Not needed. Now the best melee in PvE. Undodgable whip so DK can finish things would be good for PvP though.

xbobx

brandonv516 wrote: »

Warden needs it more.

warden has one, but its not the one you want.

Bashev

LeagueTroll wrote: »

Dude, mag dk got so much buff already. Cc on magsorc suck compare to dk.

Why? Both classes have roots and stuns which go through block.

Unfadingsilence

All classes should have there own form of an execute. End of story

Savos_Saren

Bloodthirsty trait on jewelry is available to everyone.... and everyone has executes... except mDKs.

Now everyone has access to Chains (silver shards), every has access to Wings (SnB ultimate).

We should also clarify that DK healing got a buff. So healers will be more viable.

DK dps only recieved an RNG sustain buff. So let’s not act like DKs are about to be OP.

Priyasekarssk

mr1sho wrote: »

I don't care what the plebs say it's unfair that dk is the only class with no execute hack they gave sorcs two of them at least give us one!

Dude warden also deos not have execute. Scorer does not have a spammable skill . DKs has best spammable in the game. Can you trade execute for spammable flame lash ?
Dont post something which not even a issue.

Savos_Saren

Priyasekarssk wrote: »

mr1sho wrote: »

I don't care what the plebs say it's unfair that dk is the only class with no execute hack they gave sorcs two of them at least give us one!

Dude warden also deos not have execute. Scorer does not have a spammable skill . DKs has best spammable in the game. Can you trade execute for spammable flame lash ?
Dont post something which not even a issue.

Warden does have an execute (bear ultimate) But I agree that it’s not effective in a PVP enviornment. Mag wardens could use a better execute.

Spammable attacks do not equal an execute. All stam builds have weapon spammables AND executes. That’s comparing apples to oranges.

xbobx

Savos_Saren wrote: »

Priyasekarssk wrote: »

mr1sho wrote: »

I don't care what the plebs say it's unfair that dk is the only class with no execute hack they gave sorcs two of them at least give us one!

Dude warden also deos not have execute. Scorer does not have a spammable skill . DKs has best spammable in the game. Can you trade execute for spammable flame lash ?
Dont post something which not even a issue.

Warden does have an execute (bear ultimate) But I agree that it’s not effective in a PVP enviornment. Mag wardens could use a better execute.

Spammable attacks do not equal an execute. All stam builds have weapon spammables AND executes. That’s comparing apples to oranges.

amazing how many people dont realize the bears special attack is an execute

Yolokin_Swagonborn

jasonthorpeb14_ESO wrote: »

I think they should take implosion from sorcs, give them a more useful passive (a damage buff ) and give it to DK's called Immolation.

I was hoping to get at least a few pages in before this became a nerf sorc thread.


The number one way to lose people when you call for buffs for your class is to also call for nerfs for other classes.

ak_pvp

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

jasonthorpeb14_ESO wrote: »

I think they should take implosion from sorcs, give them a more useful passive (a damage buff ) and give it to DK's called Immolation.

I was hoping to get at least a few pages in before this became a nerf sorc thread.


The number one way to lose people when you call for buffs for your class is to also call for nerfs for other classes.

I mean, don't nerf sorc, buff them in places. But it makes more sense on a DK. Like a spontaneous combustion/cremation, and in line with the dot based slow burn explode vs Idk, being shocked to death and just dissolving?

Either way, it's a dodgy RNG passive.

Animus-ESO

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

jasonthorpeb14_ESO wrote: »

I think they should take implosion from sorcs, give them a more useful passive (a damage buff ) and give it to DK's called Immolation.

I was hoping to get at least a few pages in before this became a nerf sorc thread.


The number one way to lose people when you call for buffs for your class is to also call for nerfs for other classes.

Giving sorc a 10% damage buff in exchange for a half ass RNG execute (when you already have an execute) is concidered a nerf to you? Heh That's rich buddy

mr1sho

I wish they would consider it and the CD are not that great especially when Nightblades cloaking right if them

themaddaedra

This is not even a DK thread lol, it's a magDK thread. You could more simply make a title like buff my choices of play!

DK doesn't need an execute, it never did. Stop homogenizing the game already.

arishok33

Well MagDK is still one of the weaker classes on PTS currently. While able to pull off 50k without Raidbuffs, only Bubbles and Drain, every other magicka class hits harder. So yeah it could still use a buff.
Bloodthirsty needs a nerf though lol.

Turelus

mr1sho wrote: »

I don't care what the plebs say it's unfair that dk is the only class with no execute hack they gave sorcs two of them at least give us one!

This is why players shouldn't ever be the ones in charge of game balance.

Abysswarrior45

How about buff stam dk. Give it a stam whip? Honestly, its pathetic in PvP now and only useful as either a tank or able to be any sort of threat if you run heal debuffs and use DD skills from weapon skill lines. Every other stam class can run the dk setups better though.

Rohamad_Ali

But ZoS is homogenizing the game already ... Nightblade tank abilities . Spammable Templar dps . Might as well give DK an execute now . It's probably in the works with Wrobel's team . It's already begun with all the other classes .

Enslaved

LeagueTroll wrote: »

Dude, mag dk got so much buff already. Cc on magsorc suck compare to dk.

if you are not joking you have severe cognitive issues.

Carbonised

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

But ZoS is homogenizing the game already ... Nightblade tank abilities . Spammable Templar dps . Might as well give DK an execute now . It's probably in the works with Wrobel's team . It's already begun with all the other classes .

This is actually true. Once upon a time there was a need for classes to have certain strengths and weaknesses, and the DK was always told it couldn't get an execute due to having other strengths.

The game today is very different, they're buffing NB tanks, Sorc tanks, DK healers, nerfing Templar healers, Psijic skills give a spamable to every class and spec, both stam and mag, as well as giving access to several buffs and CCs across the board. Not to mention Silver Leash giving chains to every tank build out there.

The homogenization of classes and stripping away of class identity while giving all classes access to buffs, debuffs, spamables and CCs outside their class skills means that asking for a DK execute isn't really that far fetched.

Hells, they could even attach it to those underperforming DoTs and have them tick harder when the victim is under x % health.
Or they could give execute ability to other non-class skill lines, like the StamDK get their execute from bow and 2hander skill lines. Put one in Destro staff or a new magicka focused weapon, and mDK would have access to one too.

Chilly-McFreeze

jasonthorpeb14_ESO wrote: »

I think they should take implosion from sorcs, give them a more useful passive (a damage buff ) and give it to DK's called Immolation.

Random Forum Users: Oh no, a passive RNG execute is so unfair. It's bad for the game, no one should die to RNG. Remove that passive from sorcs!

Also random forum users: Give mDK an passive RNG execute. That would be so cool and totaly not unfair.


This always makes me smile.

themaddaedra

Rohamad_Ali wrote: »

But ZoS is homogenizing the game already ... Nightblade tank abilities . Spammable Templar dps . Might as well give DK an execute now . It's probably in the works with Wrobel's team . It's already begun with all the other classes .

Well but DK is an exception to this imo. As DK has always been the one and only acceptable tank, while being able to be either mag or stam dd. Actually for quite some time it was the best option for a tank and best option for a stamdd.

I know ZoS is already homogenizing the game, and i would kinda agree if DKs now couldn't be DDs due to lacking of execution. But they can already pull what others do, without having an execute. And asking for an execute ability for DKs would end up bringing them some other nerfs imo.

I mostly play PvE these days and i don't truly care if there's a DK or another class in the melee spot, but there's also this point that DKs are quite strong in PvP (not saying op here) without execute anyways.

So giving DK an execute ability would not make any difference apart from making the game even more homogenized and causing some nerf to DK's other damage sources.

ccfeeling

Its OK to buff DK execution ability , they will be the top tank and dps in the game .

mr1sho

Turelus wrote: »

mr1sho wrote: »

I don't care what the plebs say it's unfair that dk is the only class with no execute hack they gave sorcs two of them at least give us one!

This is why players shouldn't ever be the ones in charge of game balance.

Did I miss something what do you mean?

Turelus

mr1sho wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

mr1sho wrote: »

I don't care what the plebs say it's unfair that dk is the only class with no execute hack they gave sorcs two of them at least give us one!

This is why players shouldn't ever be the ones in charge of game balance.

Did I miss something what do you mean?

Not caring about others thoughts means you're not willing to take in all considerations. If you're not going to be considering everything when you make a balance or class change then you're going to end up playing favourites with classes and create more balance issues.

mr1sho

Turelus wrote: »

mr1sho wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

mr1sho wrote: »

I don't care what the plebs say it's unfair that dk is the only class with no execute hack they gave sorcs two of them at least give us one!

This is why players shouldn't ever be the ones in charge of game balance.

Did I miss something what do you mean?

Not caring about others thoughts means you're not willing to take in all considerations. If you're not going to be considering everything when you make a balance or class change then you're going to end up playing favourites with classes and create more balance issues.

Well it's seem ZOS already doing that anyways keywords Nightblades and sorcs