Dragon Knight whip : Would you support changing one morph into a Stamina one?

MaxwellC

I will say I do not support changing any of the Dragon Knights whip into a Stamina one (Coming from a Stamina DK main). Some players stated that "They do not need two morphs" (referring to Magicka DKs), so I wanted to get a general consensus as to what players on the forums think; We may be the minority as the majority doesn't participate on forum posts but nonetheless.

Molten whip: While slotted, your Spell and Weapon Damage is increased for Ardent Flame abilities.
Flame Lash: Targeting off balance enemies grants you a more powerful lash which deals increased damage , stuns them, and heals you.

Nemesis7884

Yes I support changing one morph into a Stamina one

does anyone even use the morph that gives +weapon power?

dsalter

Yes I support changing one morph into a Stamina one

just give them a volcanic whip that is the stam morph+a fire and bleed debuff

Everstorm

Yes I support changing one morph into a Stamina one

I think there should be quite a few more stam morphs for class skills. As it is stam build of different classes are way too similar, making it quite boring.

Loralai_907

Yes I support changing one morph into a Stamina one

I've been waiting for a green whip ever since the original trailer videos came out a billion years ago. That was probably the worst bummer for me when I started playing in term of what the videos looked like and the actual game, no green whip. What, was making her whip fire colored too complicated?

Xoelarasizerer

Yes I support changing one morph into a Stamina one

They can have the ardent flame skill damage buff version since more people that take the skill probably do so for the stronger healing move on the off balanced (as said by me, Mr. Bias from his own experience with an MDKDD main)

I don't know if the stamina morph should be an execution or anything since a desperate enough stamina for executions can always run 2h melee weapon (if poison injection or even whirlwind aren't cutting it with their bonus on low hp enemies) not any more sure on what the stamina morph would do instead, but just being a stamina morph that does the same as flame lash (healing with stronger attack on off balanced) imo, dosen't feel creative enough.

Aliyavana

Yes I support changing one morph into a Stamina one

Stamina generally needs more variety

Sheezabeast

Yes I support changing one morph into a Stamina one

Yes I've been wanting it since Beta

ezeepeezee

No I do not support changing one morph into a Stamina one.

Honestly? If I could do as much DoT damage as I can, AND had an easy, instant spammable with a high tooltip, I don't think I'd play anything else in PVP. It's too much.

Raraaku

Yes I support changing one morph into a Stamina one

I said yes, but my preference is more along the lines of having Molten Whip scale to the highest statistic, much like Flames of Oblivion. This way I could enjoy the passive buff while getting the same kind of damage that a magDK would enjoy from using it.

The cost isn't that high, and I think a green whip would need a cost increase to prevent overt spamming since the animation is so fast.

Scale Molten to highest statistic is my real vote

Everstorm

Yes I support changing one morph into a Stamina one

Raraaku wrote: »

I said yes, but my preference is more along the lines of having Molten Whip scale to the highest statistic, much like Flames of Oblivion. This way I could enjoy the passive buff while getting the same kind of damage that a magDK would enjoy from using it.

The cost isn't that high, and I think a green whip would need a cost increase to prevent overt spamming since the animation is so fast.

Scale Molten to highest statistic is my real vote

Then you'd get no benefit from your physical penetration.

usmguy1234

No I do not support changing one morph into a Stamina one.

All you're gonna see is *dodge *dodge *dodge.

NobleX35

Yes I support changing one morph into a Stamina one

ezeepeezee wrote: »

Honestly? If I could do as much DoT damage as I can, AND had an easy, instant spammable with a high tooltip, I don't think I'd play anything else in PVP. It's too much.

Stamdks don’t even have the strongest dot builds in the game. Giving us a reliable spammable will help us in our role as a pressure class, since we still won’t have the same kind of burst as other classes.

usmguy1234 wrote: »

All you're gonna see is *dodge *dodge *dodge.

This argument doesn’t make any sense. It doesn’t have a cast time like uppercut, snipe, dark flare, etc...so it shouldn’t be instantly dodge everytime...it would be dodged probably about the same amount as any other no cast time dodgable skill.

Savos_Saren

Yes I support changing one morph into a Stamina one

Only if ZOS gives mDKs an execute.

dodgehopper_ESO

Yes I support changing one morph into a Stamina one

It would be nice to see them add a Whip/Flail weapon line as well as a Spear & Spear+Shield weapon line.

Jade1986

No I do not support changing one morph into a Stamina one.

No.

Jade1986

No I do not support changing one morph into a Stamina one.

Nemesis7884 wrote: »

does anyone even use the morph that gives +weapon power?

Yep. Its actually far more reliable atm than the other morph in pve.

Numerikuu

No I do not support changing one morph into a Stamina one.

Nemesis7884 wrote: »

does anyone even use the morph that gives +weapon power?

Yup.

I get that there's a great lack of stamina morphs for all the classes, but for the love of everything stop changing existing skills. Add new ones to the game already.

Kanar

Yes I support changing one morph into a Stamina one

Yes. If necessary ZoS should add a third morph to all skills.

Lynx7386

No I do not support changing one morph into a Stamina one.

While a venom whip would be awfully cool, I think a better fit is to have one morph of stonefist be a stamina spammable that has you punching enemies with boulders on your hands

Numerikuu

No I do not support changing one morph into a Stamina one.

Lynx7386 wrote: »

While a venom whip would be awfully cool, I think a better fit is to have one morph of stonefist be a stamina spammable that has you punching enemies with boulders on your hands

That sounds so awesome

Rohaus

Yes I support changing one morph into a Stamina one

Only one morph is used for magicka anyways so what’s the big deal converting the one not used to a Stam morph!

Wellsley

Yes I support changing one morph into a Stamina one

Savos_Saren wrote: »

Only if ZOS gives mDKs an execute.

Yes.

Qbiken

No I do not support changing one morph into a Stamina one.

Rohaus wrote: »

Only one morph is used for magicka anyways so what’s the big deal converting the one not used to a Stam morph!

Molten whip is used, I can guarantee it. Unless you´ve a perfected asylum inferno, molten whip is the 2nd best DPS choice.
Would rather see noxious breath being reworked to a spammable ability instead of whip.

Ragnarock41

Yes I support changing one morph into a Stamina one

I don't believe its the only way to make sDk viable, but I believe it is one of the many ways to help stamDK.

Emmagoldman

No I do not support changing one morph into a Stamina one.

Not at current, I think a HA, dizzy swing, into a stam whip, and execute would be too strong. If there was a nerf to dizzy then sure

ilikepickles

Lynx7386 wrote: »

While a venom whip would be awfully cool, I think a better fit is to have one morph of stonefist be a stamina spammable that has you punching enemies with boulders on your hands

You realize that with passives unchanged, that becomes extremely broken and stamDK hits current magblade levels of sustain?

Ragnarock41

Yes I support changing one morph into a Stamina one

Emmagoldman wrote: »

Not at current, I think a HA, dizzy swing, into a stam whip, and execute would be too strong. If there was a nerf to dizzy then sure

do you believe dizzying swing is OP? It is the easiest countered spammable in the entire game, and people counter it by doing just what they should, by stacking shields,cloaking, blocking,dodging, stunning or kiting the caster ... Its an ability that is as useful as your opponents skill level.

Ragnarock41

Yes I support changing one morph into a Stamina one

ilikepickles wrote: »

Lynx7386 wrote: »

While a venom whip would be awfully cool, I think a better fit is to have one morph of stonefist be a stamina spammable that has you punching enemies with boulders on your hands

You realize that with passives unchanged, that becomes extremely broken and stamDK hits current magblade levels of sustain?

People only suggest a stam stonefist morph because magDks don't want to give up their useful abilities(they want it all for themselves tbh.), and stonefist for the most part is useless as a magicka ability. It would also be useless as a stamina ability.

Think of stam warden bird, do you think that ability is good?

And on the balance level, helping hands passive and the ult regen passive means that a spammable stamina ability in this skill line would have to cost around 3 to 4k, and even then people could use cost reduction to make it a problem. Its just not a good idea, but people don't want to understand it.

They are afraid of a viable stamDk, they don't want it, so they ask for a dumb thing that won't happen, like stamina stonefist. Who even cares for stonefist, its the most useless ability I can think of, an ability that is totally outclassed by petrify, even with its inferior range.
How would that even make stamDk even better, how would that even have a reason to get used, I do not understand.

ak_pvp

Yes I support changing one morph into a Stamina one

Yeah sure. It won't be imbalanced or anything, just a bit lazy Imo.

Personally I would prefer more varying things, burning talons become poison with dot (the main/choking can be fire with no dot) stam deep breath, and poison but still mag costing and higher stat scaling volatile armour.

Ragnarock41

Yes I support changing one morph into a Stamina one

ak_pvp wrote: »

Yeah sure. It won't be imbalanced or anything, just a bit lazy Imo.

Personally I would prefer more varying things, burning talons become poison with dot (the main/choking can be fire with no dot) stam deep breath, and poison but still mag costing and higher stat scaling volatile armour.

or ZOS could just fix the useless uppercut/flurry and we wouldn't need to ask for poison whip then.