A npc made me a thief :S
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On Vvardenfell, near the boxes where we go to turn in the daily craft writs, there ir a dark elf walking around near the boxes.
Turn in all 6 dailys, its just click on a crate, get the reward and go to click on the next crate. But sometimes, while clicking, this npc walks and push my char a few side steps, making me miss click and steal a scenario item which could be stolen.
So, I clicked wrong, because I didnt know that npc could push my char, and stole that shovel and than he starts screaming "thief...thief...guards" (thanks water nearby).
Sometimes when I go there, I notice there is no shovel. Probably someone stole that. I dont understand why there is items which player can steal near a quest object.
Simple things could fix that:
- change that npc path or remove his walk
- remove items which could be stoled near writ quest crates.
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As ppl said, could exist a option to turn on and off as exist for murder innocents (with mod, player can turn on and off pressing a key).
I didnt think about that option and as suggested is a good option for players. My main is a good thief, but my alt lvl15 isnt.
About be patient, cautious and avoid rush it's ok almost time playing, but sometimes, things become just mechanic as it was on last event. Many alts doing the same daily to farm event boxes. After a few days doing that, things become a little mechanic.
As other said, I had problems too with trader npcs moving just when I clicked and missing then. As result, I did stole a meat.
Edited by prtpj1ub17_ESO on April 24, 2018 3:01PM Turn in all 6 dailys, its just click on a crate, get the reward and go to click on the next crate. But sometimes, while clicking, this npc walks and push my char a few side steps, making me miss click and steal a scenario item which could be stolen.
So, I clicked wrong, because I didnt know that npc could push my char, and stole that shovel and than he starts screaming "thief...thief...guards" (thanks water nearby).
Sometimes when I go there, I notice there is no shovel. Probably someone stole that. I dont understand why there is items which player can steal near a quest object.
Simple things could fix that:
- change that npc path or remove his walk
- remove items which could be stoled near writ quest crates.
EDIT:
Turn off auto loot stolen objects works only for containers.
As ppl said, could exist a option to turn on and off as exist for murder innocents (with mod, player can turn on and off pressing a key).
I didnt think about that option and as suggested is a good option for players. My main is a good thief, but my alt lvl15 isnt.
About be patient, cautious and avoid rush it's ok almost time playing, but sometimes, things become just mechanic as it was on last event. Many alts doing the same daily to farm event boxes. After a few days doing that, things become a little mechanic.
As other said, I had problems too with trader npcs moving just when I clicked and missing then. As result, I did stole a meat.
"Excuse me sir, I would like to buy...OPS...sry...I fell and did put your pork in my bag accidently"
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Or... take a moment to check your surroundings instead of rushing to drop the stuff off because you're over excited for some wood or tomatoes."prtpj wrote:Simple things could fix that:
- change that npc path or remove his walk
- remove items which could be stoled near writ quest crates.
By the way... how much do you want for that shovel, you thief?
Edited by Violynne on April 23, 2018 4:35PM7 -
Or... take a moment to check your surroundings instead of rushing to drop the stuff off because you're over excited for some wood or tomatoes.
Ehhhh....This is pretty annoying. I think everyone that has played that game has done this multiple times. I have done it several times. I am not sure if I have done it in that particular situation but when you are trying to speak to someone or do some other type of action and you pick something up instead. It is very annoying.
To the OP though....I think this won't be fixed. Here is why....
When you are stealing, you don't want to have to confirm every time. That is too much of a hassle. You can check inventories on a person without stealing but simply pressing the action button over an item is, unfortunately too easy to do. The only way I could think of fixing this is to do the same thing they do to prevent us from attacking innocents. There is a setting that you can change to NOT attack. They could probably put a setting in there to NOT steal items as well but who knows. They won't move items though. Just not gonna happen.
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Sorry, but since you included "everyone", I can speak up and say it's never happened to me.TamrielSaviour215 wrote: »Ehhhh....This is pretty annoying. I think everyone that has played that game has done this multiple times.
I should probably point out I also don't approach many interactive quests from the front. This stems from the player base, as many stand in front, and I find more "breathing room" behind.
Most notably at banks.
Maybe try this is as an option?
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jlmurra2✭✭✭✭✭I have had this happen a few times, sometimes pushed as well.
This is a issue with most Elder Scrolls games, but with ESO I cannot load an older save.
Maybe a confirmation could added that could be toggled. (Are you certain want to take this?), or toggle stealing, as it is with attacking "innocents".Edited by jlmurra2 on April 23, 2018 5:00PM2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Those items are put there on purpose so you have to pay attention when you are delivering the writs.
And if the NPC doesn't move, we won't be able to pickpocket and murder him, so that's also a no.
If you accidentally steal something, apologize to the guard and pay your fine. Problem solved.
(Though if you are on PC, there may be an addon for that)The Moot Councillor1 -
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✭✭✭✭Those items are put there on purpose so you have to pay attention when you are delivering the writs.
And if the NPC doesn't move, we won't be able to pickpocket and murder him, so that's also a no.
If you accidentally steal something, apologize to the guard and pay your fine. Problem solved.
(Though if you are on PC, there may be an addon for that)
Never apologize to the guard and pay your fine. Always run like the wind!
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✭✭A npc made me a thief :S
if i send the materials do you think he'd make me one?5 -
DeadlyPhoenix✭✭✭✭✭Actually the best thing they could do to fix this, and it's been asked for before, is to set a toggle for stolen goods in the world. We have one for auto-loot from stolen containers, we need a check of some kind to tell us we're about to steal an object.
People who say "Take your time and you won't have this issue" have obviously never been trying to talk to a guild merchant and they move at the last second causing you to steal that raw chicken behind them. So I'm supposed to wait for every vendor to start moving to their next destination and stop before interacting with them just for fear of stealing a stupid item? Not very plausible.
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Also to note that they do this intentionally as a gold sink, thats why they won't give us an option to turn stealing items off completely.
How exactly does one unintentionally steal an item anyway? I didn't want to pick it up and 99.8% of the stolen items outside of containers are his worthless and are there for cosmetics. Let them remain cosmetics because they're not worth stealing.Edited by DeadlyPhoenix on April 23, 2018 5:43PM3 -
Sting864✭✭✭✭prtpj1ub17_ESO wrote: »I dont understand why there is items which player can steal near a quest object.
Simple things could fix that:
- change that npc path or remove his walk
- remove items which could be stoled near writ quest crates.
There's nothing to fix... You have been in the game long enough to understand that the reason ZOS does this is that attention to details makes for good crafting... perhaps not enough attention is being paid to the Crafting environment... (ZOS can only affect the ENVIRONMENT in which the player plays...)Edited by Sting864 on April 23, 2018 5:51PM0 -
DeadlyPhoenix✭✭✭✭✭prtpj1ub17_ESO wrote: »I dont understand why there is items which player can steal near a quest object.
Simple things could fix that:
- change that npc path or remove his walk
- remove items which could be stoled near writ quest crates.
There's nothing to fix... If you haven't been in the game long enough to understand that the reason ZOS does this is that attention to details makes for good crafting... then perhaps not enough attention is being paid to the Crafting environment... (ZOS can only affect the ENVIRONMENT in which the player plays...)
I've been in the game since day one. There is no reason they cannot give us a toggle to turn stealing of world objects off. They do it only for the gold sink. That is legitimately the only reason. It may only be 100gp each time, but over the coarse of your play time it can add up to 100s of thousands.
There is already enough things to occupy your time without having to wait for a vendor to start and stop moving to interact with it.0 -
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Most mages I've seen try to do this end up dead. They just don't have the stamina to outrun a guard.Hippie4927 wrote: »Never apologize to the guard and pay your fine. Always run like the wind!
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Most mages I've seen try to do this end up dead. They just don't have the stamina to outrun a guard.Hippie4927 wrote: »Never apologize to the guard and pay your fine. Always run like the wind!
Don't need stamina......my mages are vamps and use mist form. Guards have never caught me.PC/NA/EP ✌️1 -
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Fleshreaper✭✭✭✭✭DeadlyPhoenix wrote: »I didn't want to pick it up and 99.8% of the stolen items outside of containers are his worthless and are there for cosmetics. Let them remain cosmetics because they're not worth stealing.
Sorry but you are wrong about those items being worthless, just because you do not know how to make use of them doesn't mean they should be removed.
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Lilyanne✭✭There's an add-on called "NoAccidentalStealing" - not sure if that would help but the descriptions mentions something about "too close to merchants" (or something like that) so it sounds like it might be helpful?
I know that an add-on isn't what you've asked for but it might prevent this from happening again?
I'm also doing what @Violynne described - trying to do whatever I wanna do at a less crowded space, e.g. back of the bank, behind the banker (and so on). I personally wouldn't mind too much if I'd steal an item or not - on my main, she's quite the proud Master Thief - but I also understand why some people might be annoyed / upset about it.Hello, I'm a huge goat enthusiast.0 -
Zhaedri✭✭✭✭What bothers me about this writ dropoff place is there is no voiceover like in other places where the worker will comment about what you made, or how long their shift is, or whatever.
No, the dunmer one is silent and glares at you. Maybe hollers if he nudges you so you pick up something that isn't yours.
As to escaping if you are seen stealing and there are guards after you... go for a swim. You won't get chased into water. They'll stand on the shore and glare at you a bit before stomping their foot and leaving.Edited by Zhaedri on April 23, 2018 6:37PM0 -
DeadlyPhoenix✭✭✭✭✭Fleshreaper wrote: »DeadlyPhoenix wrote: »I didn't want to pick it up and 99.8% of the stolen items outside of containers are his worthless and are there for cosmetics. Let them remain cosmetics because they're not worth stealing.
Sorry but you are wrong about those items being worthless, just because you do not know how to make use of them doesn't mean they should be removed.
If you're referring to deconstructing stolen items to work crafting skills or you're referring to deconstructing stolen items for the materials they yield I understand, but you cannot get cp160 materials this way and it's not a great source of inspiration for crafting lines either.
Regardless though I never said to completely do away with these objects, just that they simply need to make a toggle to allow me to choose whether I want to loot the items or not.Turn off auto loot stolen objects?
This only works on stolen items that are looted from a container, not object out and about in the world, i.e. on a vendors' stall.There's an add-on called "NoAccidentalStealing" - not sure if that would help but the descriptions mentions something about "too close to merchants" (or something like that) so it sounds like it might be helpful?
I know that an add-on isn't what you've asked for but it might prevent this from happening again?
I'm also doing what @Violynne described - trying to do whatever I wanna do at a less crowded space, e.g. back of the bank, behind the banker (and so on). I personally wouldn't mind too much if I'd steal an item or not - on my main, she's quite the proud Master Thief - but I also understand why some people might be annoyed / upset about it.
Im on console so add-ons dont help me. Everyone says "theres an add-on for this" yet fail to account that around 66% of the player base is on console. Add-ons are only there for PC players and really need to stop being to go-to answer provided. Things like this should be on ZOS to do something about so that it can be released across all platforms, not left to players to make so they can only be used on PC.
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Not trying to sound hateful toward your suggestion, it helps people on PC. Just tired of people using this as a reason no change is needed or that we should all switch to PC if we have a problem with it. I bought the game for console, we need QoL improvements because we cant download add-ons or make them ourselves.Edited by DeadlyPhoenix on April 23, 2018 9:49PM1 -
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Most mages I've seen try to do this end up dead. They just don't have the stamina to outrun a guard.Hippie4927 wrote: »Never apologize to the guard and pay your fine. Always run like the wind!
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CaptainBeerDude✭✭✭✭✭There is literally an option to confirm whether or not to steal items. Somewhere around the auto loot one.0
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✭✭✭✭I too wonder why they put stealable items with no option whether to take or not near quest objectives. Like they're actually trying to make us accidentally steal stuff if we're playing half asleep? ZOS, are you trying to say you want us to go to bed like responsible adults when we're tired instead of playing on until we fall asleep at the keyboard? Is that what this is about? How passive aggressive.0 -
CaptainBeerDude wrote: »There is literally an option to confirm whether or not to steal items. Somewhere around the auto loot one.
Why is this not the end of the discussion? I don't understand.Turn off auto loot stolen objects?
Solves all your problems, doesn't it?
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Wait, no, it's not in a crate or bag is it?cgregsweeney wrote: »CaptainBeerDude wrote: »There is literally an option to confirm whether or not to steal items. Somewhere around the auto loot one.
Why is this not the end of the discussion? I don't understand.Turn off auto loot stolen objects?
Solves all your problems, doesn't it?
It's just OUT. Like on a table. Click and it's picked up.
Okay, pardon. A quick fix- all stolen items are in containers, so people have to confirm before stealing.
Don't know how to edit my post, so had to double post.
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Kelces✭✭✭✭✭Turn off auto loot stolen objects?
That only works with containers, it's about items laying out in the open.
The only thing that does work is patience and caution.You reveal yourself best in how you play.
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Or... take a moment to check your surroundings instead of rushing to drop the stuff off because you're over excited for some wood or tomatoes."prtpj wrote:Simple things could fix that:
- change that npc path or remove his walk
- remove items which could be stoled near writ quest crates.
By the way... how much do you want for that shovel, you thief?
1KK. Its a special shovel. Make ppl a thief....0
