As a pvper

kaiage

I find the undaunted experience grind to be frustrating, I bang my head against my desk enough. Save my head, make the undaunted skill line account wide.

Thanks.

TheValar85

Oh yeah make that happen pls.

it is the most annyoing grindy, guild that every existed so far in mmo history.

VaranisArano

Shall we make alliance war skill lines account-wide too? PVEers would rejoice.

Sorry, ZOS really likes to make us grind for everything, especially on alts. Summerset is all about embracing the grind, so I don't see that changing.

Honestly, I just deal with it and I've got Alt-itis so bad I should be a member of Alt-oholics Anonymous.

Karivaa

No way and all’s I do is pvp too.

huschdeguddzje

TheValar85 wrote: »

Oh yeah make that happen pls.

it is the most annyoing grindy, guild that every existed so far in mmo history.

What about mages guild?

Aisle9

what about Mage's Guild ?

BTW, undaunted is easy, grind achievements, by the time you're done with vanilla dunjons you should be at rank8 or 9

Ectheliontnacil

Yep undaunted is a drag.

Aesthier

I agree pvp should not be required to do pve and pve should not be required to pvp

White wabbit

No fine as is

White wabbit

Aesthier wrote: »

I agree pvp should not be required to do pve and pve should not be required to pvp

Lol really ! I have heard some daft things on here

VaranisArano

Aesthier wrote: »

I agree pvp should not be required to do pve and pve should not be required to pvp

I disagree, though nothing actually requires them to do either except chasing the meta.

In a game where PVE and PVP are balanced together, having a substantial part of the player base with at least some experience in both environments is pretty necessary for understanding in the community. That's part of why ZOS designed certain base game achievements to include Cyrodiil, so that players have to experience ALL of the game.

olsborg

At the very least give 5 or 10 Undaunted XP for doing the Cyrodiil dailies. Atleast you'll get it eventually when pvping.

Aurielle

You'll just have to put up with it, I'm afraid. PVEers have to PVP for Caltrops/Vigor/Warhorn, so it's only fair that we have to venture into PVE to max out our stats. I say this as someone who also PVPs/PVEs, and hates the Undaunted grind.

Palidon

There is nothing wrong with the Undaunted Skill line except it takes way to long to complete it. Same holds true for the Mages Guild Skill Line.

Ley

I enjoy both PvP and PvE and I don't enjoy grinding to level undaunted. That in mind, I'd never want them to make it account wide but I'd be happy in they reduced the amount of time it took to grind it or offered additional ways to level the skill line.

Tasear

VaranisArano wrote: »

Shall we make alliance war skill lines account-wide too? PVEers would rejoice.

Sorry, ZOS really likes to make us grind for everything, especially on alts. Summerset is all about embracing the grind, so I don't see that changing.

Honestly, I just deal with it and I've got Alt-itis so bad I should be a member of Alt-oholics Anonymous.

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/399072/eso-anonymous-esoa-youre-not-alone

Membership is free

White wabbit

Palidon wrote: »

There is nothing wrong with the Undaunted Skill line except it takes way to long to complete it. Same holds true for the Mages Guild Skill Line.

Doesn't take too long you can even gain exp from the dailes, it just takes a little effort which I guess people can't be bothered with

Thunderclap

kaiage wrote: »

I find the undaunted experience grind to be frustrating, I bang my head against my desk enough. Save my head, make the undaunted skill line account wide.

Thanks.

100% agree.

olsborg wrote: »

At the very least give 5 or 10 Undaunted XP for doing the Cyrodiil dailies. Atleast you'll get it eventually when pvping.

Great idea.

White wabbit

Lol you get the monsters sets now with AP as pvpers moaned about that , now you want undaulted easier what ever next , Grand overlord rank for just taking a keep

Serjustin19

I'm a PvPer, I'm unsure what to write. I feel you sure, but we can't have everything. Nor can we save everyone. Especially, we can't please everyone to. No matter how much we tried and or wish for.

Pink_Violinz

Every single character I make needs purge/caltrops/warhorn, this is the same thing. Except yall get monster helms and decon material while I get 1vXed.

Enslaved

kaiage wrote: »

I find the undaunted experience grind to be frustrating, I bang my head against my desk enough. Save my head, make the undaunted skill line account wide.

Thanks.

There is a neat trick you can do, if you have any friends. just ask them to collect daily undaunted delve quest and share with you. This way you can speed up undaunted grind a lot without being forced to do time or non death runs on vet.

Xoelarasizerer

You can have account wide Undaunted skills if Alliance war assault and support skills are also account wide.

kthx

Serjustin19

Pink_Violinz wrote: »

Every single character I make needs purge/caltrops/warhorn, this is the same thing. Except yall get monster helms and decon material while I get 1vXed.

I keep on forgetting about the golden. Thanks for reminding me lol. Also with 1vX, I don't think anyone of my faction was one. It's just I wrote I'm abandoning Farragut. Otherwise it turned once I jumped of keep. But I would've have fight, 34 AD against myself. Plus we reds, have only 2 keeps left.

Rodgerwilco1

Honestly guys, I'm not a PvPer and enjoy the story and PvE of the game. Sorry but I hope they keep PvP just an after thought for the game. I played WoW when it was mostly PvE and saw how PvP destroyed the game with it's endless questing for better gear and arguments of which class was better etc. Now most of Wow areas are empty because everyone is in the new areas questing for high level stuff. Maybe the solution is a separate server just for the PvP player.

Aesthier

White wabbit wrote: »

Aesthier wrote: »

I agree pvp should not be required to do pve and pve should not be required to pvp

Lol really ! I have heard some daft things on here

So have I.

TequilaFire

Takes a few hours to unlock alliance skills, would be OK if undaunted was the same.
As it is you can't compare the two efforts.

Aesthier

VaranisArano wrote: »

Aesthier wrote: »

I agree pvp should not be required to do pve and pve should not be required to pvp

I disagree, though nothing actually requires them to do either except chasing the meta.

In a game where PVE and PVP are balanced together, having a substantial part of the player base with at least some experience in both environments is pretty necessary for understanding in the community. That's part of why ZOS designed certain base game achievements to include Cyrodiil, so that players have to experience ALL of the game.

Wait you are saying players are forced to experience ALL of the game?

Thats amazing because that is completely untrue.

sdtlc

You don't need to do stuff.

MattT1988

TequilaFire wrote: »

Takes a few hours to unlock alliance skills, would be OK if undaunted was the same.
As it is you can't compare the two efforts.

Not for everybody. Caltrops and barrier are a massive grind for the average PvE focused player.

Juju_beans

MattT1988 wrote: »

TequilaFire wrote: »

Takes a few hours to unlock alliance skills, would be OK if undaunted was the same.
As it is you can't compare the two efforts.

Not for everybody. Caltrops and barrier are a massive grind for the average PvE focused player.

I didn't find getting to rank 6 for Caltrops to be a "massive" grind. Took me maybe 2 Sunday afternoons (couple of hours) running around with a zerg group taking out keeps. I also checked the scouting missions ..some were easy peasy if my faction had the keep.