PVE Bow/Bow Build ''Arrow of Despair''

Greennik
Greennik
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Hey all,
It's time to show you my PVE Bow/Bow Build. It sounds weird and you may think it's never viable, but i can show you the opposite. I tried it in many dungeons and i try to improve this build every day. Last year i started the character and nowadays it's my main char, because this build is different from the meta and it makes a lot of fun to play.

The Mundus Stone:
Considering the Mundus Stone you have only 2 real options:
  • The Warrior (trials, dungeons,.....)
  • The Lover (Solo stuff)
All the other Mundus Stones weren't good enough to compete with lover or warrior.

The Race:
I tested all races on this build and some of them had very good DPS numbers but the BIS-race for this build is:
  • Bosmer (21% stamreg - believe me you need this)
Other good choices would be:
  • Khajiit (crit chance)
  • Redguard (only if you use Killer's Blade)

The Class:
Most of you would think it is a warden, but i tested all 5 classes with a variety of different sets and Nightblade had the most DPS output on a Bow/Bow build.


The Sets:
It was a very hard task to figure out the best sets for this build. But after a lot of DPS-tests it was clear, Arms of Relequen and Twice-Fanged-Serpent are the best choices.
In some boss fights, you cannot use the full potential of relequen. Therefore us the set Hundings Rage. But apart from this you need both the Maelstrom Bow and the Master Bow to get good DPS numbers. These are not easy to get. For the beginners: You can finish both of these arenas without Maelstrom Bow and Master Bow with these Item constellations:
  • Twice-Fanged-Serpent ( Sanctum Ophidia---jewellery and 2 set pieces)
  • Hunding's Rage ( Crafted Set / needs 6 traits---4 set pieces and the bows)
  • Velidreth/Molag Kena (Undaunted Dailies---Shoulder)
The traits are all divine on armor and nirnhoned on both bows. On jewellery use 1 infused and 2 robust. For the glyphs the best option is:
  • armor pieces / stamina glyph
  • Maelstrom Bow (front bar) / glyph doesn't matter, you use poisons on front bar
  • Master Bow (back bar) / increased weapon damage
  • necklace / increased weapon damage
  • rings / increased weapon damage
Instead of the poisons, you could use a infused Maelstrom Bow with a poison glyph, but the damage will be less.

The Skills:
In this build you need a main spammable skill: SNIPE. Maybe it sounds weird, because of the channel time but on my DPS-tests it did like 22%-24% of my overall DPS.
Front Bar:
  1. Focused Aim (Snipe+minor fracture)
  2. Relentless Focus
  3. Channeled Acceleration
  4. Endless Hail
  5. Evil Hunter (extra crit)
  6. Ult: Flawless Dawnbreaker
Back Bar:
  1. Poisen Injection
  2. Leeching Strikes
  3. if you stand at the boss use Killer's Blade (insane damage boost in execute phase) and Reaper's Mark for the ranged version ( gives 25% damage boost when marked enemy is killed/ always mark trash mobs in boss fights). Reaper's Mark can be replaced with Resolving Vigor if needed.
  4. Razing Caltrops
  5. Evil Hunter
  6. Ult: Ballista
For the rota: try to keep all AoE's and DoT's running and weave light attacks between the skills. (for the bow passive Hawk Eye). In the time between your AoE's and DoT's try to spam Focused Aim.

CP780 version:
  • 56 Mooncalf (Lover)
  • 76 Tenacity (Lover)
  • 51 Tumbling (Shadow)
  • 37 Shadow Ward (Shadow)
  • 40 Warlord (Tower)
  • 72 Master-at-Arms (Atronach)
  • 48 Thaumaturge (Ritual)
  • 51 Precise Strikes (Ritual)
  • 56 Mighty (Ritual)
  • 33 piercing (Ritual)
  • 81 Iron Clad (Steed)
  • 23 Spell Shield (Steed)
  • 51 Thick Skinned (Lady)
  • 56 Hardy (Lady)
  • 49 Elemental Defender (Lady)

The advantage of this build is to have a mixed DPS between MagDD and StamDD. The Raidleaders can put you in a melee (Killer's Blade) or a ranged (Reaper's Mark or Resolving Vigor) spot.
Also with a ranged stamina build it is quite easy keeping up the relequen stacks

DPS-Test:
Buffood used: Increased Health and Stamina.
Potions used: Weapon Damage, Stamina and Movement Speed (Major Savagery is already up/Evil Hunter)
Poisons used: Double Damage Poison
Yeah you listen right, no dubious Camoran Throne! Because this buffood would not give you enough life to be viable in trials.
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This is my viable Bow/Bow build for trials.
If there are any further questions feel free to leave them in the comment section below.

Thanks for your attention.

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Edited by Greennik on August 25, 2018 5:01PM
  • Gorilla
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    I just started a Bosmer NB this morning with something like this in mind. Will give it a go.

    Any suggestions for those who don't have Maelstrom or Master bows?
    Gamer info: Soldras / NA / PS4 / CP 7XX / Many alts / PVP focus
  • FrancisCrawford
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    Sounds interesting!

    I love my Bosmer stamblade thief, but since he insists on using Concealed Weapon he can't use Surprise Attack, which rules out many stamblade builds. Anyhow:
    • I assume you've checked that Nirnhorned is better than Infused on the bar with the Weapon Damage enchant?
    • I assume the poison DPS is on the two lines with "Lebensverwustung"? So about a 6% contribution to DPS and what else -- some stamina return or something?
    Edited by FrancisCrawford on April 23, 2018 2:35AM
  • Greennik
    Greennik
    Gorilla wrote: »
    I just started a Bosmer NB this morning with something like this in mind. Will give it a go.

    Any suggestions for those who don't have Maelstrom or Master bows?

    Just use a standard Hunding's Rage Bow and the Velidreth/Molag Kena shoulders.
    Sounds interesting!

    I love my Bosmer stamblade thief, but since he insists on using Concealed Weapon he can't use Surprise Attack, which rules out many stamblade builds. Anyhow:
    • I assume you've checked that Nirnhorned is better than Infused on the bar with the Weapon Damage enchant?
    • I assume the poison DPS is on the two lines with "Lebensverwustung"? So about a 6% contribution to DPS and what else -- some stamina return or something?

    Yeah the DPS with nirnhoned is better than infused.
    Yes that is the poison, but it doesn't return stamina. It's only damage.
  • exiars10
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    There is already bow/bow thread:
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/381498/everything-needed-to-know-about-bow-bow-in-pve

    So you could post there. This is just variation what we all already know except you made one big mistake:
    Strength of the Automaton - is a big no no on Nightblade. It's Sorcerer set and on every other stamina class it's pure DPS loss.

    As Nightblade, Automaton's 5th bonus is pure waste because of:
    1) Relentless Focus - Assassin's Scourge does disease damage.
    2) Killer's Blade does disease damage, too.
    3) Poison Injection does poison damage.
    4) And Focused Aim is really only worth on Sorcerer cause Automaton set and his other skills.

    Just because NMG and Sunderflame are going to "history" it doesn't mean suddenly Automaton is good for anybody except Sorcerer.

    But, seeing your parse result, was that on PTS or live server? Also, proven bow/bow players push almost as you, but on 6M dummy ;) (to be clear, I am not one of them).
    I don't play ESO since 15.06. because Cyrodiil is broken since Summerset (PvE isn't much better, too)...

    Aldmeri Dominion (PC Europe via Steam)

    The cowardly Wood Elves are best noted for their unwillingness to engage in a face-to-face attack; a Bosmer will strike at you from every side except the front. You won't cross swords with a Bosmer, but you might catch an arrow in the throat. Be wary in forests and jungles, and watch your back.
  • Greennik
    Greennik
    exiars10 wrote: »
    There is already bow/bow thread:
    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/381498/everything-needed-to-know-about-bow-bow-in-pve

    So you could post there. This is just variation what we all already know except you made one big mistake:
    Strength of the Automaton - is a big no no on Nightblade. It's Sorcerer set and on every other stamina class it's pure DPS loss.

    As Nightblade, Automaton's 5th bonus is pure waste because of:
    1) Relentless Focus - Assassin's Scourge does disease damage.
    2) Killer's Blade does disease damage, too.
    3) Poison Injection does poison damage.
    4) And Focused Aim is really only worth on Sorcerer cause Automaton set and his other skills.

    Just because NMG and Sunderflame are going to "history" it doesn't mean suddenly Automaton is good for anybody except Sorcerer.

    But, seeing your parse result, was that on PTS or live server? Also, proven bow/bow players push almost as you, but on 6M dummy ;) (to be clear, I am not one of them).

    I know this post but i wanted to show you my build with an own forum post, so everyone can discuss about my constellations.

    Strength of the Automaton is not a big mistake, because there is no other set that can compensate the 400 Weapon Damage on physical attacks. I tested all viable stamina sets for this build and they all did less damage than Strength of the Automaton. Only TFS was better, but in trials it's bad.

    I use Focused Aim because it drops minor fracture on the boss (the only way to proc that without any stamplar).
    And i said after the next patch TFS will may be better than Strength of the Automaton.

    The DPS-tests were on the Live Server.
    Did they use the dubious camoran throne on the 6M Dummy? This would explain a lot ;).
    Edited by Greennik on April 23, 2018 9:17AM
  • N1t0
    N1t0
    Nice build :#
    @N1T0 Max CP
    Haus Winterfell
  • Jowrik
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    Hey, nice build

    Similar to what i've been using a while.

    Can you explain some points?

    - Why Evil Hunter? You lose 2 ability slots & you could just put it on your potion & lose the movement speed.
    - Vicious Ophidian seems a better set than Automaton (not a fan of Automaton because reasons stated above)?
    - Can you parse on a 6mil dummy instead? A 3m dummy really does not show you much of how viable this build is for trials.
    - There's no defensive ability slotted. Reaper's mark is very useful in vMA but outside that i'd not consider it over say Mirage or Vigor
    - Your backbar is Poison Injection : I assume that's your Master's Bow? You lose the Master's Bow buff once you barswap so I would recommend Master's bow as a front bar with Caltrops, Snipe, Poison Injection, Trap and use Maelstrom bow on the back bar for Endless Hail (make sure you proc it & don't bar swap off it).
    - Do you consider Acid Spray on there too?

    Cheers
    Nightblade - Khajiit - Rha'Viir
    PC - EU - Aldmeri Dominion
  • Greennik
    Greennik
    Jowrik wrote: »
    Hey, nice build

    Similar to what i've been using a while.

    Can you explain some points?

    - Why Evil Hunter? You lose 2 ability slots & you could just put it on your potion & lose the movement speed.
    - Vicious Ophidian seems a better set than Automaton (not a fan of Automaton because reasons stated above)?
    - Can you parse on a 6mil dummy instead? A 3m dummy really does not show you much of how viable this build is for trials.
    - There's no defensive ability slotted. Reaper's mark is very useful in vMA but outside that i'd not consider it over say Mirage or Vigor
    - Your backbar is Poison Injection : I assume that's your Master's Bow? You lose the Master's Bow buff once you barswap so I would recommend Master's bow as a front bar with Caltrops, Snipe, Poison Injection, Trap and use Maelstrom bow on the back bar for Endless Hail (make sure you proc it & don't bar swap off it).
    - Do you consider Acid Spray on there too?

    Cheers
    Thank you,

    -Evil Hunter: The Rota is complicated enough with 4 skills on each bar. Also the stamina consumption would be too high.
    -Vicious Ophidian: I tested this set and it was not better than Automaton. (with TFS around 41k-42k DPS)
    -See below
    -Yeah mirage is a good choice
    -I had never a problem pulling out the full potential of both bows with my playstyle and my equipment constellation.
    -Acid Spray: Too much stamina consumption.
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    On the 6mil dummy i did always about 37k-38k DPS.
    Edited by Greennik on May 3, 2018 11:58PM
  • Greennik
    Greennik
    Build Update: 25.08.2018
  • Chaouleon
    Chaouleon
    Soul Shriven
    It's too bad you removed the CP360 for those of us who have not yet reached max. It's hard to figure out how you should spread your CP's, if it's best to evenly divide them or concentrate on something specific first =)
  • Delsanab14_ESO
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    I'm not gonna farm arenas *yawn*.
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