Healer Nightblade?

Kierro

Does anyone have a good loadout for a Nightblade Healer? I prefer staves for weapon, but which should I use? It's a long story why I chose NB. Please help.

Tasear

https://tamrielfoundry.com/articles/a-long-guide-to-nightblade-pve-healing-in-one-ta/

Best guide in existence.

Kierro

Tasear wrote: »

https://tamrielfoundry.com/articles/a-long-guide-to-nightblade-pve-healing-in-one-ta/

Best guide in existence.

Thanks. Have you run this? Is it a good build? I have a build already, but needed to know if I needed improvement.

Lynx7386

My nightblade has been a healer since sap tanking got killed. The biggest issue is no burst / emergency heal, but you can stack a lot of healing over time and use combat prayer as a pseudo burst heal.

Kierro

Lynx7386 wrote: »

My nightblade has been a healer since sap tanking got killed. The biggest issue is no burst / emergency heal, but you can stack a lot of healing over time and use combat prayer as a pseudo burst heal.

Thanks, my Khajiiti friend. I use to be a Templar (have an AD alt) but due to a lag when deleting another character, my Templar got deleted too. I have a Nightblade so I worked with him and seen Funnel Health looked like a Blood Mage spell, and I wondered if there were BloodMage builds for ESO. I've been running and loving my build, but with Morrowind, I need a improvement. Thanks for your message.

Caleb_Kadesh

Kierro wrote: »

Thanks. Have you run this? Is it a good build? I have a build already, but needed to know if I needed improvement.

If you already have a build post it. So that folks can make useful comments that are appropriate to your build.

Lynx7386

Kierro wrote: »

Lynx7386 wrote: »

My nightblade has been a healer since sap tanking got killed. The biggest issue is no burst / emergency heal, but you can stack a lot of healing over time and use combat prayer as a pseudo burst heal.

Thanks, my Khajiiti friend. I use to be a Templar (have an AD alt) but due to a lag when deleting another character, my Templar got deleted too. I have a Nightblade so I worked with him and seen Funnel Health looked like a Blood Mage spell, and I wondered if there were BloodMage builds for ESO. I've been running and loving my build, but with Morrowind, I need a improvement. Thanks for your message.

I had zos restore a character i deleted once, you should put in a ticket for it.

Kierro

Lynx7386 wrote: »

I had zos restore a character i deleted once, you should put in a ticket for it.

Unfortunately, I found this out too late. I was told if it was a week through a month, I could get it back. It was longer.

Kierro

Caleb_Kadesh wrote: »

Kierro wrote: »

Thanks. Have you run this? Is it a good build? I have a build already, but needed to know if I needed improvement.

If you already have a build post it. So that folks can make useful comments that are appropriate to your build.

It's an outdated build, that's why I'm asking. The link Tasear posted is very close to my loadout, but there's a few changes.

rabidmyers

Kierro wrote: »

Does anyone have a good loadout for a Nightblade Healer? I prefer staves for weapon, but which should I use? It's a long story why I chose NB. Please help.

my loadout as of come summerset is:

5 spell power cure, 5 worm cult and 2 piece troll king (due to the 2h changes we can run troll king which is amazing for nb healers particularly)

resto bar (main bar): combat prayer, funnel health, healthy offering, mutagen, inner light and ulti is bolstering darkness

destro bar (lightning/buff bar): elemental blockade, sap essence, refreshing path, siphoning attacks, elemental drain and utli is agressive warhorn

all spell dmg glyphs on jewlery because nb has way more sustain than a templar, u got ur refreshing shadow passives and ur siphoning attcks (which u should be weaving in light attacks all the time) also atronach mundus stone

i use infused tri glyph on my 3 big pieces aka head, pants, and chest, other pieces are divines with magicka glyphs. i do this because having good hp is very good on nb healer, ur more of a close up kind of spec via range of funnel health, sap and so on, and mainly because u have the healthy offering which eats hp so having good hp pool is nice

i use 5/2 via armor, troll king set both heavy, i do this because i find that more resist and defense is more valuable than the extra 3% resources, also more sustain via heavy passives (being attacked) if u prefer a 5/1/1 setup then that is fine, to each their own

this setup is mainly for 4 man dungeons, we are using bolstering darkness mainly to balance out the health wwhen switching bars due to refreshing path being a shadow ability giving us hp via passives. normally i would run soul harvest front bar for the minor savagery to allies and 10% crit dmg, but after reading changes to crit dmg only being for dmg and not healing i kind of opted out of it. u will still get the 10% extra dmg with funnel tho for more heals but i prefer bolstering darkness, to each their own tho.

for trials i would replace funnel with healing springs, and mutagen with the healing orbs from undaunted. using those 2 hots like that in trials is a bit tedious due to u having to cast them multiple times just to affect a decent amount of ppl, which isnt good.

but yeah thats my loadout and yeah, if u have any further questions let me know cuz i been healing as a nb for awhile now

Kierro

rabidrufus64 wrote: »

Kierro wrote: »

Does anyone have a good loadout for a Nightblade Healer? I prefer staves for weapon, but which should I use? It's a long story why I chose NB. Please help.

my loadout as of come summerset is:

5 spell power cure, 5 worm cult and 2 piece troll king (due to the 2h changes we can run troll king which is amazing for nb healers particularly)

resto bar (main bar): combat prayer, funnel health, healthy offering, mutagen, inner light and ulti is bolstering darkness

destro bar (lightning/buff bar): elemental blockade, sap essence, refreshing path, siphoning attacks, elemental drain and utli is agressive warhorn

all spell dmg glyphs on jewlery because nb has way more sustain than a templar, u got ur refreshing shadow passives and ur siphoning attcks (which u should be weaving in light attacks all the time) also atronach mundus stone

i use infused tri glyph on my 3 big pieces aka head, pants, and chest, other pieces are divines with magicka glyphs. i do this because having good hp is very good on nb healer, ur more of a close up kind of spec via range of funnel health, sap and so on, and mainly because u have the healthy offering which eats hp so having good hp pool is nice

i use 5/2 via armor, troll king set both heavy, i do this because i find that more resist and defense is more valuable than the extra 3% resources, also more sustain via heavy passives (being attacked) if u prefer a 5/1/1 setup then that is fine, to each their own

this setup is mainly for 4 man dungeons, we are using bolstering darkness mainly to balance out the health wwhen switching bars due to refreshing path being a shadow ability giving us hp via passives. normally i would run soul harvest front bar for the minor savagery to allies and 10% crit dmg, but after reading changes to crit dmg only being for dmg and not healing i kind of opted out of it. u will still get the 10% extra dmg with funnel tho for more heals but i prefer bolstering darkness, to each their own tho.

for trials i would replace funnel with healing springs, and mutagen with the healing orbs from undaunted. using those 2 hots like that in trials is a bit tedious due to u having to cast them multiple times just to affect a decent amount of ppl, which isnt good.

but yeah thats my loadout and yeah, if u have any further questions let me know cuz i been healing as a nb for awhile now

Thank you!

rabidmyers

Kierro wrote: »

rabidrufus64 wrote: »

Kierro wrote: »

Does anyone have a good loadout for a Nightblade Healer? I prefer staves for weapon, but which should I use? It's a long story why I chose NB. Please help.

my loadout as of come summerset is:

5 spell power cure, 5 worm cult and 2 piece troll king (due to the 2h changes we can run troll king which is amazing for nb healers particularly)

resto bar (main bar): combat prayer, funnel health, healthy offering, mutagen, inner light and ulti is bolstering darkness

destro bar (lightning/buff bar): elemental blockade, sap essence, refreshing path, siphoning attacks, elemental drain and utli is agressive warhorn

all spell dmg glyphs on jewlery because nb has way more sustain than a templar, u got ur refreshing shadow passives and ur siphoning attcks (which u should be weaving in light attacks all the time) also atronach mundus stone

i use infused tri glyph on my 3 big pieces aka head, pants, and chest, other pieces are divines with magicka glyphs. i do this because having good hp is very good on nb healer, ur more of a close up kind of spec via range of funnel health, sap and so on, and mainly because u have the healthy offering which eats hp so having good hp pool is nice

i use 5/2 via armor, troll king set both heavy, i do this because i find that more resist and defense is more valuable than the extra 3% resources, also more sustain via heavy passives (being attacked) if u prefer a 5/1/1 setup then that is fine, to each their own

this setup is mainly for 4 man dungeons, we are using bolstering darkness mainly to balance out the health wwhen switching bars due to refreshing path being a shadow ability giving us hp via passives. normally i would run soul harvest front bar for the minor savagery to allies and 10% crit dmg, but after reading changes to crit dmg only being for dmg and not healing i kind of opted out of it. u will still get the 10% extra dmg with funnel tho for more heals but i prefer bolstering darkness, to each their own tho.

for trials i would replace funnel with healing springs, and mutagen with the healing orbs from undaunted. using those 2 hots like that in trials is a bit tedious due to u having to cast them multiple times just to affect a decent amount of ppl, which isnt good.

but yeah thats my loadout and yeah, if u have any further questions let me know cuz i been healing as a nb for awhile now

Thank you!

np my dude, nightblades actually put out more healing than templars, im not just saying that cuz im biased towards my class, it's actually 100% true, being able to spec into more spell dmg cuz of sustain perks and having the 8% max magicka for a siphoning ability slotted. they just have always lacked a burst heal and utility, we are now getting a burst heal come summerset but atm its buggy so i hope they do fix it, also i would like to see them add more utility to the nb, maybe add a utility to refreshing path. they could even take the damage away from it for all i care, but adding a utility to refreshing path makes sense to me, but yeah all n all they do have more healing output than that of a templar. sorry for talking alot, i just really like to discuss what ik bout the class and love to help others out

Tasear

They keep it pretty updated. I recommend even if not for the general knowledge. Also as people said nightblades are about heals over time, though mind you next update you get a better burst heal that costs health over time instead of all at same second.

RavenSworn

Mutagen | funnel health | Combat Prayer | Healing Ward | Orbs | Warhorn / Lights Champion

Elemental Drain | Elemental Blockade | Refreshing Path | SAP Essence / Healthy offering | utility slot | Soul Siphon

I use a multitude of gears sets, from spc worm cult, to combat physician to jorvuld guidance.

exeeter702

Here, i made this not too long ago for others that were wondering. Just disregard the hemorrage passive since it no longer effects critical heals (sad face). Everything else still applies. The only change i think, is dropping healing ward since offering will be a fat burst heal next patch.

Funnel in resto bar is never something i suggest. You need to remember that for funnel health, 30 percent of damage done plus 10 perceny crit damage is overal more healing than not having the hemorrage passivenand having 31 percent of damage done on funnel.

This is your safest bet for a foundation, trust me. Try to get a lightning charged spc destro for front bar, properly played nb healers spend more time on destro than resto, you dont want to sit in resto and only bounce to deateo for lightning wall and buff refreshes, that is terrible.

The more confortable you become at nb healing, you will begin to realize just how strong your hot uptime is (and after summerset especially) healing ward will be less important. But the learning curve is real, just practice your hot uptime and trust them to do work while you sit on destro bar (rememeber mutagen crits for 12k when it pops on low health allies). Do not back bar destro for vet dungeons.

exeeter702

exeeter702 wrote: »

You need to remember that for funnel health, 30 percent of damage done plus 10 perceny crit damage is overal more healing than not having the hemorrage passivenand having 31 percent of damage done on funnel.

Just to further elaborate on this.

Obviously the siphoner passive doesnt increase the funnel health healing portion by a raw percent for siphoning ability on the bar, but the game does consider the passive when displaying the percent of damage dealt into healing conversion. This is why sometimes the tooltip for funnel health varies between 25 percent and up to 31 percent based on healing modifiers. So you have to consider the trade off between an assasination skill on the same bar as funnel health vs an extra siphoning skill. Generally 6 percent healing done via the siphoning passive is fine, at which point funnel health will heal for more based on hitting harder as opposed to going to 9 percent due to how the game adds up percent multipliers of the same benefit type.

Just some food for thought

Tasear

Just a reminder critical damage modifier will not increase heals after summerset.

exeeter702

Tasear wrote: »

Just a reminder critical damage modifier will not increase heals after summerset.

As was stated in my post

The following post was reffering to the benefits that funnel health sees from the hemorrage passive since its healing is tied directly to how much it hits for.

rabidmyers

exeeter702 wrote: »

Here, i made this not too long ago for others that were wondering. Just disregard the hemorrage passive since it no longer effects critical heals (sad face). Everything else still applies. The only change i think, is dropping healing ward since offering will be a fat burst heal next patch.

Funnel in resto bar is never something i suggest. You need to remember that for funnel health, 30 percent of damage done plus 10 perceny crit damage is overal more healing than not having the hemorrage passivenand having 31 percent of damage done on funnel.

This is your safest bet for a foundation, trust me. Try to get a lightning charged spc destro for front bar, properly played nb healers spend more time on destro than resto, you dont want to sit in resto and only bounce to deateo for lightning wall and buff refreshes, that is terrible.

The more confortable you become at nb healing, you will begin to realize just how strong your hot uptime is (and after summerset especially) healing ward will be less important. But the learning curve is real, just practice your hot uptime and trust them to do work while you sit on destro bar (rememeber mutagen crits for 12k when it pops on low health allies). Do not back bar destro for vet dungeons.

everyone has their preference, but to me funnel is only really worth it on a destro bar if u were to run it on a fire, lightning would only help the sap essence in terms of dmg and not healing, i use resto main bar and its perfectly fine switching to lightning to use refreshing path, i dont understand how u say its terrible. plus u get more healing done on allies when they below a % of hp while a restoration staff is equipped in addition to ur resto staff skills healing more if a resto is equipped, meaning ur mutagen hot and so on are going to be healing more while ur maining a resto.

Terion_Fyr

Hello everyone!

I'm a passionate NB Healer since the release of ESO. From time to time I change my skillset, but this is how I perform the best at the moment in all Veteran Dungeons and Veteran Trials as an NB Healer.







1 Skillset

1. Standart spell to keep a HoT on every groupmember
2. DMG Buff
3. Strong Heal(HoT) and give yourself 8% more Healing Power(most used healing spell atm)(and if you are oom, perfect for you. cast it first
on you and then your allies)
4. 20% DMG Buff for you and strong AOE Heal while DMG Enemy
5. Decrease the DMG of Bosses and other beings which hurt your allies

Ultimate: Your Burstheal

2 Skillset

1. -"-
2. Shadow Path use it for yourself to gain quick health for "prolonged suffering" or for the Tank
3. Thunder for 10% more DMG
4. Resource management
5. Decrease Defense to deal more DMG

Ultimate: Huge DMG Buff for allies


Thanks for reading.

I'm a beginner in English and try my best to improve myself.

After reading all your posts I really wanted to show you my NB Healer.
And guys, never stop to play the class and the role you love the most - you can make it work!

exeeter702

rabidrufus64 wrote: »

exeeter702 wrote: »

Here, i made this not too long ago for others that were wondering. Just disregard the hemorrage passive since it no longer effects critical heals (sad face). Everything else still applies. The only change i think, is dropping healing ward since offering will be a fat burst heal next patch.

Funnel in resto bar is never something i suggest. You need to remember that for funnel health, 30 percent of damage done plus 10 perceny crit damage is overal more healing than not having the hemorrage passivenand having 31 percent of damage done on funnel.

This is your safest bet for a foundation, trust me. Try to get a lightning charged spc destro for front bar, properly played nb healers spend more time on destro than resto, you dont want to sit in resto and only bounce to deateo for lightning wall and buff refreshes, that is terrible.

The more confortable you become at nb healing, you will begin to realize just how strong your hot uptime is (and after summerset especially) healing ward will be less important. But the learning curve is real, just practice your hot uptime and trust them to do work while you sit on destro bar (rememeber mutagen crits for 12k when it pops on low health allies). Do not back bar destro for vet dungeons.

everyone has their preference, but to me funnel is only really worth it on a destro bar if u were to run it on a fire, lightning would only help the sap essence in terms of dmg and not healing, i use resto main bar and its perfectly fine switching to lightning to use refreshing path, i dont understand how u say its terrible. plus u get more healing done on allies when they below a % of hp while a restoration staff is equipped in addition to ur resto staff skills healing more if a resto is equipped, meaning ur mutagen hot and so on are going to be healing more while ur maining a resto.

You are generally unable to fit an assasination skill to boslter funnel health via hemorrage. Hots rolling on low allies is fine to benefit from the resto staff. But funnel snap shots its base healing value when damage is dealt, thus triggering it on the stronger bar before switching is key rather than sitting on resto spamming it for the low health passive. You benefit from the resto staff all the same.

My view point is only expressed based on extensive trial and error over a very long time spent healing on nb.

Kierro

Thanks for the responses, please continue, I'm looking through everyone's suggestions to see what to do. I just want to throw this out there, but please be respectful to each other. Also, not saying there just a precaution, but no fighting.

I'm using the build Tasear first suggested, but that's a Morrowind build... I wasn't expecting Summerset to change NB again.

Lynx7386

exeeter702 wrote: »

rabidrufus64 wrote: »

exeeter702 wrote: »

Here, i made this not too long ago for others that were wondering. Just disregard the hemorrage passive since it no longer effects critical heals (sad face). Everything else still applies. The only change i think, is dropping healing ward since offering will be a fat burst heal next patch.

Funnel in resto bar is never something i suggest. You need to remember that for funnel health, 30 percent of damage done plus 10 perceny crit damage is overal more healing than not having the hemorrage passivenand having 31 percent of damage done on funnel.

This is your safest bet for a foundation, trust me. Try to get a lightning charged spc destro for front bar, properly played nb healers spend more time on destro than resto, you dont want to sit in resto and only bounce to deateo for lightning wall and buff refreshes, that is terrible.

The more confortable you become at nb healing, you will begin to realize just how strong your hot uptime is (and after summerset especially) healing ward will be less important. But the learning curve is real, just practice your hot uptime and trust them to do work while you sit on destro bar (rememeber mutagen crits for 12k when it pops on low health allies). Do not back bar destro for vet dungeons.

everyone has their preference, but to me funnel is only really worth it on a destro bar if u were to run it on a fire, lightning would only help the sap essence in terms of dmg and not healing, i use resto main bar and its perfectly fine switching to lightning to use refreshing path, i dont understand how u say its terrible. plus u get more healing done on allies when they below a % of hp while a restoration staff is equipped in addition to ur resto staff skills healing more if a resto is equipped, meaning ur mutagen hot and so on are going to be healing more while ur maining a resto.

You are generally unable to fit an assasination skill to boslter funnel health via hemorrage. Hots rolling on low allies is fine to benefit from the resto staff. But funnel snap shots its base healing value when damage is dealt, thus triggering it on the stronger bar before switching is key rather than sitting on resto spamming it for the low health passive. You benefit from the resto staff all the same.

My view point is only expressed based on extensive trial and error over a very long time spent healing on nb.

Yea I run funnel on my backbar with an inferno staff and impale slotted (inferno also boosts funnel damage, and thus healing)

exeeter702

Lynx7386 wrote: »

exeeter702 wrote: »

rabidrufus64 wrote: »

exeeter702 wrote: »

Here, i made this not too long ago for others that were wondering. Just disregard the hemorrage passive since it no longer effects critical heals (sad face). Everything else still applies. The only change i think, is dropping healing ward since offering will be a fat burst heal next patch.

Funnel in resto bar is never something i suggest. You need to remember that for funnel health, 30 percent of damage done plus 10 perceny crit damage is overal more healing than not having the hemorrage passivenand having 31 percent of damage done on funnel.

This is your safest bet for a foundation, trust me. Try to get a lightning charged spc destro for front bar, properly played nb healers spend more time on destro than resto, you dont want to sit in resto and only bounce to deateo for lightning wall and buff refreshes, that is terrible.

The more confortable you become at nb healing, you will begin to realize just how strong your hot uptime is (and after summerset especially) healing ward will be less important. But the learning curve is real, just practice your hot uptime and trust them to do work while you sit on destro bar (rememeber mutagen crits for 12k when it pops on low health allies). Do not back bar destro for vet dungeons.

everyone has their preference, but to me funnel is only really worth it on a destro bar if u were to run it on a fire, lightning would only help the sap essence in terms of dmg and not healing, i use resto main bar and its perfectly fine switching to lightning to use refreshing path, i dont understand how u say its terrible. plus u get more healing done on allies when they below a % of hp while a restoration staff is equipped in addition to ur resto staff skills healing more if a resto is equipped, meaning ur mutagen hot and so on are going to be healing more while ur maining a resto.

You are generally unable to fit an assasination skill to boslter funnel health via hemorrage. Hots rolling on low allies is fine to benefit from the resto staff. But funnel snap shots its base healing value when damage is dealt, thus triggering it on the stronger bar before switching is key rather than sitting on resto spamming it for the low health passive. You benefit from the resto staff all the same.

My view point is only expressed based on extensive trial and error over a very long time spent healing on nb.

Yea I run funnel on my backbar with an inferno staff and impale slotted (inferno also boosts funnel damage, and thus healing)

Yeah for sure. Generally speaking, sometimes you get angry group memebers in vet 4 mans when they dont see lighting wall on the floor

rabidmyers

exeeter702 wrote: »

rabidrufus64 wrote: »

exeeter702 wrote: »

Here, i made this not too long ago for others that were wondering. Just disregard the hemorrage passive since it no longer effects critical heals (sad face). Everything else still applies. The only change i think, is dropping healing ward since offering will be a fat burst heal next patch.

Funnel in resto bar is never something i suggest. You need to remember that for funnel health, 30 percent of damage done plus 10 perceny crit damage is overal more healing than not having the hemorrage passivenand having 31 percent of damage done on funnel.

This is your safest bet for a foundation, trust me. Try to get a lightning charged spc destro for front bar, properly played nb healers spend more time on destro than resto, you dont want to sit in resto and only bounce to deateo for lightning wall and buff refreshes, that is terrible.

The more confortable you become at nb healing, you will begin to realize just how strong your hot uptime is (and after summerset especially) healing ward will be less important. But the learning curve is real, just practice your hot uptime and trust them to do work while you sit on destro bar (rememeber mutagen crits for 12k when it pops on low health allies). Do not back bar destro for vet dungeons.

everyone has their preference, but to me funnel is only really worth it on a destro bar if u were to run it on a fire, lightning would only help the sap essence in terms of dmg and not healing, i use resto main bar and its perfectly fine switching to lightning to use refreshing path, i dont understand how u say its terrible. plus u get more healing done on allies when they below a % of hp while a restoration staff is equipped in addition to ur resto staff skills healing more if a resto is equipped, meaning ur mutagen hot and so on are going to be healing more while ur maining a resto.

You are generally unable to fit an assasination skill to boslter funnel health via hemorrage. Hots rolling on low allies is fine to benefit from the resto staff. But funnel snap shots its base healing value when damage is dealt, thus triggering it on the stronger bar before switching is key rather than sitting on resto spamming it for the low health passive. You benefit from the resto staff all the same.

My view point is only expressed based on extensive trial and error over a very long time spent healing on nb.

yeah ik, i would usually run soul harvest on my resto bar for the assassination ability, but i will now run bolstering due to the crit dmg changes come summerset, and also funnel does heal more if spec'd into healing done. not saying that dmg will increase the heals but as far as funnel goes, healing comes before dmg in terms of how strong the heals are and yes i have also spent a very long time healing on a nb

Koensol

rabidrufus64 wrote: »

exeeter702 wrote: »

rabidrufus64 wrote: »

exeeter702 wrote: »

Here, i made this not too long ago for others that were wondering. Just disregard the hemorrage passive since it no longer effects critical heals (sad face). Everything else still applies. The only change i think, is dropping healing ward since offering will be a fat burst heal next patch.

Funnel in resto bar is never something i suggest. You need to remember that for funnel health, 30 percent of damage done plus 10 perceny crit damage is overal more healing than not having the hemorrage passivenand having 31 percent of damage done on funnel.

This is your safest bet for a foundation, trust me. Try to get a lightning charged spc destro for front bar, properly played nb healers spend more time on destro than resto, you dont want to sit in resto and only bounce to deateo for lightning wall and buff refreshes, that is terrible.

The more confortable you become at nb healing, you will begin to realize just how strong your hot uptime is (and after summerset especially) healing ward will be less important. But the learning curve is real, just practice your hot uptime and trust them to do work while you sit on destro bar (rememeber mutagen crits for 12k when it pops on low health allies). Do not back bar destro for vet dungeons.

everyone has their preference, but to me funnel is only really worth it on a destro bar if u were to run it on a fire, lightning would only help the sap essence in terms of dmg and not healing, i use resto main bar and its perfectly fine switching to lightning to use refreshing path, i dont understand how u say its terrible. plus u get more healing done on allies when they below a % of hp while a restoration staff is equipped in addition to ur resto staff skills healing more if a resto is equipped, meaning ur mutagen hot and so on are going to be healing more while ur maining a resto.

You are generally unable to fit an assasination skill to boslter funnel health via hemorrage. Hots rolling on low allies is fine to benefit from the resto staff. But funnel snap shots its base healing value when damage is dealt, thus triggering it on the stronger bar before switching is key rather than sitting on resto spamming it for the low health passive. You benefit from the resto staff all the same.

My view point is only expressed based on extensive trial and error over a very long time spent healing on nb.

yeah ik, i would usually run soul harvest on my resto bar for the assassination ability, but i will now run bolstering due to the crit dmg changes come summerset, and also funnel does heal more if spec'd into healing done. not saying that dmg will increase the heals but as far as funnel goes, healing comes before dmg in terms of how strong the heals are and yes i have also spent a very long time healing on a nb

It would be better if you activated funnel on the front bar with a higher crit chance and more damage, then switch to resto back bar to apply other hots and combat prayer, while your funnel crits now also benefit from the healing increased from resto. But tbh, if you play NB healer properly your allies should rarely get to low health. The amount of healing you passively put out is insane if you keep it all rolling.

rabidmyers

Koensol wrote: »

rabidrufus64 wrote: »

exeeter702 wrote: »

rabidrufus64 wrote: »

exeeter702 wrote: »

Here, i made this not too long ago for others that were wondering. Just disregard the hemorrage passive since it no longer effects critical heals (sad face). Everything else still applies. The only change i think, is dropping healing ward since offering will be a fat burst heal next patch.

Funnel in resto bar is never something i suggest. You need to remember that for funnel health, 30 percent of damage done plus 10 perceny crit damage is overal more healing than not having the hemorrage passivenand having 31 percent of damage done on funnel.

This is your safest bet for a foundation, trust me. Try to get a lightning charged spc destro for front bar, properly played nb healers spend more time on destro than resto, you dont want to sit in resto and only bounce to deateo for lightning wall and buff refreshes, that is terrible.

The more confortable you become at nb healing, you will begin to realize just how strong your hot uptime is (and after summerset especially) healing ward will be less important. But the learning curve is real, just practice your hot uptime and trust them to do work while you sit on destro bar (rememeber mutagen crits for 12k when it pops on low health allies). Do not back bar destro for vet dungeons.

everyone has their preference, but to me funnel is only really worth it on a destro bar if u were to run it on a fire, lightning would only help the sap essence in terms of dmg and not healing, i use resto main bar and its perfectly fine switching to lightning to use refreshing path, i dont understand how u say its terrible. plus u get more healing done on allies when they below a % of hp while a restoration staff is equipped in addition to ur resto staff skills healing more if a resto is equipped, meaning ur mutagen hot and so on are going to be healing more while ur maining a resto.

You are generally unable to fit an assasination skill to boslter funnel health via hemorrage. Hots rolling on low allies is fine to benefit from the resto staff. But funnel snap shots its base healing value when damage is dealt, thus triggering it on the stronger bar before switching is key rather than sitting on resto spamming it for the low health passive. You benefit from the resto staff all the same.

My view point is only expressed based on extensive trial and error over a very long time spent healing on nb.

yeah ik, i would usually run soul harvest on my resto bar for the assassination ability, but i will now run bolstering due to the crit dmg changes come summerset, and also funnel does heal more if spec'd into healing done. not saying that dmg will increase the heals but as far as funnel goes, healing comes before dmg in terms of how strong the heals are and yes i have also spent a very long time healing on a nb

It would be better if you activated funnel on the front bar with a higher crit chance and more damage, then switch to resto back bar to apply other hots and combat prayer, while your funnel crits now also benefit from the healing increased from resto. But tbh, if you play NB healer properly your allies should rarely get to low health. The amount of healing you passively put out is insane if you keep it all rolling.

yes ik friend, i do main a front bar with funnel on it aka my resto bar, which has inner light on it aswell with 40%+ crit chance, i do play nb healer properly, but saying "play nb healer properly" is kinda weird cuz there can be different ways of playing one, as i was trying to tell the exeeter guy. he said that funnel health belongs on the destro bar and it is terrible to switch to ur back bar to use refreshing path and apply resto hots etc. funell isn't any stronger on the destro bar unless its an infero destro or if it has an assassination ability on it, otherwise it will be the exact same on ur resto.

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exeeter702

Orange_Islands31 wrote: »

I have been running a resto/destro healing build on my NB in vet dungeons for a few months now. I really enjoying playing this build.

This morning I learned that I was inadequate as the healer in Dragon Bones dungeon on vet. When it came to the multi boss fight on a large map I failed my team pretty hard. I simply couldn't reach everyone at the same time. Normally I don't get any complaints, but one of my teammates said doing this boss fight with a nb as healer is nearly impossible. I could optimize my build more, and I will be taking advice from this thread, but before today I thought I was doing a decent enough job. The only skill that reaches another play automatically is my healing ward / funnel health... Anyone have problems with this dungeon in particular? Any other dungeons that I should avoid as a nb healer?

I assure you, NB healers can tackle any vet dungeon including the most recent dragon bones ones, as i have already done the hard modes of both. Reaching your allies is generally never an issue when played right. Mutagen and funnel health at the very least should be up at all times on everyone in 4 man content. Refreshing path should always be down. Between your hots doing their work, healing ward should be more then enough to save a single dps since by the time the 300 percent shield is cleared, the the hots will top them off.

For the love of god, dont for a second give credence in anyone claiming NBs cant possibly heal any 4 man vet boss, that is objective nonsense.

Just out of curiosity, which of the dragon bones dungeon are you referring to? Im geussing the last boss of fang lair?

Kierro

exeeter702 wrote: »

For the love of god, dont for a second give credence in anyone claiming NBs cant possibly heal any 4 man vet boss, that is objective nonsense.

Yeah, I always hear "Why is our healer a NB?" or "A NB healer? I never heard of that or knew it was possible."

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