Which "innocents" has your "good" character murdered, and why?

ekmcb

My good, moral, ethical, non-murdery vampire Nord sorcerer:

1. Gulmon Droth & Sendel Droth (package deal)
2. Mirise Dres

Reasons:

1.

My Nord found the preying upon hopeless souls, convincing them to offer up their soul to Droth for money to be reprehensible beyond most things she could imagine. Gulmon (and his brother) was a parasite upon the weakest and most bereft of hope. It made her stomach churn and her eyes see red, and she could not suffer him to live.

2.

My Nord thought Mirise was one of the most sick, predatory, conscience-less sociopaths, who had harmed so, so many Argonian and Khajiit slaves. Mirise, too, preyed upon those weaker than her, sacrificing them and treating their lives as playthings for her depraved curiosity. How many innocent lives & fates had been tortured and twisted by her experimentation and butchery? Again, my character saw red, and saw Mirise fit for a timely departure from Nirn. Once she slew her, as she dusted off her robes, my Nord silently prayed a prayer to all the sacrificed Argonians and Khajiit souls, whispering to the aether: "You are avenged."

Recremen

Do they have a slave in their house or are they part of some other aspect of slavery? Chances are I killed them. I farmed a house full of Dres slavers as part of my way towards the Black Market Mogul achievement, and I farmed those two Droth soulgem guys to help get the Felonious Recompense achievement. I loved that part especially, because I could (and needed to) kill them out in the open, in plain view, to make sure I got the bounty for them. Sends a message that way as well.

Smasherx74

I had a good nordic character who spent his entirely life going around solving peoples problems and helping his fellow adventurers. He was always the guy to keep the group together when there was in fighting while in the middle of a dungeon. As a child he grew up mostly living on a farm outside of windhelm, he would work hard to help his family in the fields, and he loved animals. In fact he had nearly a dozen or so cats roaming around his family's farm. When he came of age he left to see the world, he explored many places on his journey. Eventually he was lead to Riften with a gang of pals he met on his travels. One night when masser and secunda were shining brightly, after having spent a long night partying in the local tavern he was looking for a place to release himself, he found himself near the docks where he saw the most beautiful figure of his life. It was a bosmer women who's eyes glowed as green as the aurora in the sky. For the next two winters he spent his days along side the bosmer women. Sometime later he went back to his farm, and told his family about the bosmer women and how he wanted to marry her. So his mother gave him her amulet of Mara, and his father gave him his enchanted mace in case he had to ever protect his wife. So he went back to riften and proposed to the bosmer women, they soon got married and lived a virtuous life together. He started his own business in riften, often times doing business with Khajitt caravans to acquire cheap goods he sell for a high price in the city. The two lived a great life together, but then all of this came to an abrupt end. When searching for one of the caravans he was beaten, robbed, and captured. The next thing he knew was being woken up by a Dark Elf who told him if he didn't hurry up and clean himself he'd literally burn him alive with a fire spell. Not knowing what was going on, he quickly washed and followed the Dark Elf into what appeared to be a stage. The next thing he knew, there was a few hundred dark elves all dressed in fancy clothes staring at him. Another Dark Off took to the front of the stage and claimed he was a fierce nord warrior who could plow fields in minutes. The crowd went crazy shouting insane amounts of coin they were willing to spend. In all the chaos and trying to grasp what's going on, the nord was pulled off the stage with a chain strapped around his neck. An extremely old dark elf approached him stating: "You work for me now" then opened the nords mouth and cut his tongue out with a dagger enchanted with flames to stop the bleeding. The pain was far too much, going into shock the nord eventually passed out. Awaking again in a new cell. He was forced along with other slaves to work in muddy fields. This new land was unfamiliar to him, he knew nothing about the life that lived here. It seemed like some sort of alien planet. Being unable to talk, the slaves would communicate with each other by body language. 2 years passed, the nord had wanted to give up so many times but his thoughts of his family and wife back home kept him going. Then one day a Breton was brought into the fields, this breton did not look the part of a farmer. A pale, timid young boy who looked like he hadn't seen the sun in ages. The nord approached the breton, flexing his muscles and pushing his chest out, then pointed to the young breton. The breton pointed to his head, and then pointed at his arms. Neither of them were aware of it yet, but they had done something the dunmer masters hadn't thought about. They used sign language to communicate. Over time they created many different words and phrases in sign language, teaching other slaves as well. They established a group of slaves ready to revolt against the dunmer. The young breton had been an apprentice mage who was adept in the school of illusion. They had a plan being worked out and talked about every day. The dark elves were far too powerful, so they would need to sneak out without alerting them, then they will spread out and never look back. During the night time, some slaves would be out their cages either serving or cooking food for the masters late night meetings where they discussed things nobody understood. The plan was for these slaves to distract the dark elves while the rest of the slave's foot steps are suppressed with the use of illusion magick which will only last for a few minutes. Due to the nature of their environment the slaves were like family so a few were willing to stay behind so the others could make it to safety. Even if one of them did not want them to dothis in fear of their own life it's not like they could inform the masters about their plan anyways due to all their tongue being removed. So the night they executed their plan, over 23 slaves made it out. The breton had been so exhausted from using up all his magicka that he collapsed shortly after escaping. The nord chose to help him, picking him up and carrying him. They made it to the sea where they found a boat. While still carrying the breton, he swam across the water and made it to the boat then climbed in. The breton was still out, so he placed him down and searched the boat, then suddenly he heard shouting. "Halt, civilized scum" and a Khajitt with 1 eye swung down and slashed the nords cheek with what appeared to be a "curved sword". The nord lunged at the khajitt and began punching. About 15 armed khajiit and argonians came out from under the ship all with either claws extended or swords unsheathed. The nord looked back at the breton who was still passed out, and then made a writing gesture with his hands, as if to write on his own hand. One of the argonians brought him a piece of paper, ink, and a quill. The nord attempted to write explaining everything. He wrote how the just escaped from a dark elf slaver camp. He explained how he manage to get away, and how the breton used illusion magick to help them escape. The khajitt read what he wrote then spoke some words the nord didn't understand, most likely pirate slang. Then everyone went silent, the Khajitt with 1 eye approached the nord then slapped him on the shoulder and said "why didn't you say so" then declared a toast to their freedom. It turns out, the nord and breton had came across a ship of pirates, who had actually been slaves themselves. The breton was put in a nice bed to rest, and the nord got drunk with the pirates. The khajitt explained the politics of dunmer society, and how they houses worked. He explained the nord was most likely sold at a telvani auction house where they sell slaves. Many of them are rich enough to hire people to find travelers all across remote areas of skyrim and capture them to put them on the Auction house. The khajitt told the nord they could travel with them and they would take them home after finishing their adventure. The next day the breton was told by the nord with the sign language they created what was going on. They would travel with the pirates until they can get back home. So for the next year they traveled across the sea, learning many new fighting techniques, spells, and collecting tons of treasure. By the end of that year the khajitt had said they were returning home to spend their fortune and make love to their wives. The nord and even the breton had become so attuned to this way of living they would cheer along with the other pirates without even noticing it. The breton had became multiple shades darker of complexion due to being out in the sun all the time, and the nord had grown twice the size he was before, with arms thick as entire cannons. They made their way to bleakrock where they all had a party in an inn and then parted ways. The pirates went off back to see, as the breton and the nord went to the dock to find another boat to take them to the mainland of skyrim. In windhelm the nord and breton parted ways, they thanked each other for all the hard work. After sharing one last bottle of mead the breton was on his way. He purchased a horse from the stable with the coin he earned as a pirate, and the nord decided to go to see his family. He traveled to his families farm, but found out that it was sold to some imperial. He wrote on a piece of paper asking the farmers where he could find the imperial, they told him he lived in whiterun. So the nord hitched a ride with a khajitt caravan to whiterun, there he gathered information on the imperial who bought his families farm and eventually found him drinking in an inn with three women sitting with him. He wrote asking him what happen to the people who he bought the farm from, the imperial told the nord that they were down on their luck, they weren't able to hire other farmers and the old man had gotten sick and was able to continue farming. Their profits dried up so they had to sell the farm. Other than that he had no idea. So the nord decided to go back to Riften to visit his wife. When arriving in riften he actually saw his wife right there in the middle of the market. He approached her with tears in his eyes and tried to speak but forgot he had no tongue. So he pulled a piece of paper out his pocket and began writing, but he kept glancing at the bosmer women he had loved so much, noticing her eyes had a different look in them. After he finished writing he gave it to her to read, but she would not read it. Then a high elf putted his arm around her and said "who is this brute?" while smirking. The bosmer women told the nord, she had thought he was dead. So she moved on, and even asked "why aren't you happy for me, I was so alone". In that instance, everything went black. The next thing the nord knew, he was covered in blood with dozens of on lookers in shock. There below his feet lied the high elf, his face a bloody mess which was totally unrecognizable. Then he looked up and saw his wife, both her hands grasping his, as he looked down he saw he had stabbed her with a sword through the gut. He was in shock, falling back as she fell to the ground next to the high elf. The riften guard swarmed the nord. In that moment he lost everything, his family was no where to be found, his wife had found another man and he had murdered her and him both. All he had left was one thing, and that's his freedom. He pulled the sword from out the corpse, and began slashing like a tornado. The guards were overwhelmed by the sheer power of the nord. He slaughtered the entire towns guard in a matter of seconds. Realizing what he had done, he became emotionally void. The nord left riften, and has never returned since...

TheShadowScout

Kes my goody-two greaves character once killed an innocent.
Why?
Because he was standing too close to the bad guys, and she was in a bit of a battle frenzy (it's an orc thing) and kinda bashed in his head by mistake...
...but she ran to the guard to turn herself in and pay the blood price right away!

Narvuntien

There is a quest in Beghama where you get attacked by a mob enforcer in a bar.... all my skills were AoE .... then it was kill or be killed.

Yakidafi

A few pve questers in cyrodiil.
their screams for mercy never seized, not even when I beheaded them they continued to haunt me from death.

ekmcb wrote: »

Why?

The sense of power is amazing and I can agonize them in different ways, I enjoy experimenting. The more I kill the more I am convinced that they are cursed and need to be purged from these lands because their screams after death keep coming more and louder.

ekmcb

Yakidafi wrote: »

A few pve questers in cyrodiil.

Why?

DoctorESO

ekmcb wrote: »

My good, moral, ethical, non-murdery vampire Nord sorcerer:

1. Gulmon Droth & Sendel Droth (package deal)
2. Mirise Dres

Reasons:

1.

My Nord found the preying upon hopeless souls, convincing them to offer up their soul to Droth for money to be reprehensible beyond most things she could imagine. Gulmon (and his brother) was a parasite upon the weakest and most bereft of hope. It made her stomach churn and her eyes see red, and she could not suffer him to live.

2.

My Nord thought Mirise was one of the most sick, predatory, conscience-less sociopaths, who had harmed so, so many Argonian and Khajiit slaves. Mirise, too, preyed upon those weaker than her, sacrificing them and treating their lives as playthings for her depraved curiosity. How many innocent lives & fates had been tortured and twisted by her experimentation and butchery? Again, my character saw red, and saw Mirise fit for a timely departure from Nirn. Once she slew her, as she dusted off her robes, my Nord silently prayed a prayer to all the sacrificed Argonians and Khajiit souls, whispering to the aether: "You are avenged."

Those NPCs

don't seem to be that innocent! But I guess that's why innocent was in quotes.

Emothic

No one is actually innocent. They are just unlucky.

Nyghthowler

Any that sing Red Diamond...

ekmcb

Those NPCs

don't seem to be that innocent! But I guess that's why innocent was in quotes.

It was in quotes because as far as the game system is concerned, you can't attack them because they are neither hostile (red outlined, if you have that enabled) nor potentially hostile (yellow outlined). And if you have "prevent attacking innocents" enabled in Settings, they are unattackable entirely.

It means I had to change my normal "prevent..." Setting just to let my character do this.

phaneub17_ESO

I have good characters? Traitors live, those who did wrong and got away with it.

ekmcb

Smasherx74 wrote: »

I had a good nordic character... [snip]

Wow.

I am humbled and bow before your answer to the question.

themaddaedra

My Argonian templar, the all-mighty protector and defender of the light, murdered hundreds of citizens. Because of achievement points. That's what Zenimax has done to this game...

Ajintse

Smasherx74 wrote: »

I had a good nordic character who spent his entirely life going around solving peoples problems and helping his fellow adventurers. He was always the guy to keep the group together when there was in fighting while in the middle of a dungeon. As a child he grew up mostly living on a farm outside of windhelm, he would work hard to help his family in the fields, and he loved animals. In fact he had nearly a dozen or so cats roaming around his family's farm. When he came of age he left to see the world, he explored many places on his journey. Eventually he was lead to Riften with a gang of pals he met on his travels. One night when masser and secunda were shining brightly, after having spent a long night partying in the local tavern he was looking for a place to release himself, he found himself near the docks where he saw the most beautiful figure of his life. It was a bosmer women who's eyes glowed as green as the aurora in the sky. For the next two winters he spent his days along side the bosmer women. Sometime later he went back to his farm, and told his family about the bosmer women and how he wanted to marry her. So his mother gave him her amulet of Mara, and his father gave him his enchanted mace in case he had to ever protect his wife. So he went back to riften and proposed to the bosmer women, they soon got married and lived a virtuous life together. He started his own business in riften, often times doing business with Khajitt caravans to acquire cheap goods he sell for a high price in the city. The two lived a great life together, but then all of this came to an abrupt end. When searching for one of the caravans he was beaten, robbed, and captured. The next thing he knew was being woken up by a Dark Elf who told him if he didn't hurry up and clean himself he'd literally burn him alive with a fire spell. Not knowing what was going on, he quickly washed and followed the Dark Elf into what appeared to be a stage. The next thing he knew, there was a few hundred dark elves all dressed in fancy clothes staring at him. Another Dark Off took to the front of the stage and claimed he was a fierce nord warrior who could plow fields in minutes. The crowd went crazy shouting insane amounts of coin they were willing to spend. In all the chaos and trying to grasp what's going on, the nord was pulled off the stage with a chain strapped around his neck. An extremely old dark elf approached him stating: "You work for me now" then opened the nords mouth and cut his tongue out with a dagger enchanted with flames to stop the bleeding. The pain was far too much, going into shock the nord eventually passed out. Awaking again in a new cell. He was forced along with other slaves to work in muddy fields. This new land was unfamiliar to him, he knew nothing about the life that lived here. It seemed like some sort of alien planet. Being unable to talk, the slaves would communicate with each other by body language. 2 years passed, the nord had wanted to give up so many times but his thoughts of his family and wife back home kept him going. Then one day a Breton was brought into the fields, this breton did not look the part of a farmer. A pale, timid young boy who looked like he hadn't seen the sun in ages. The nord approached the breton, flexing his muscles and pushing his chest out, then pointed to the young breton. The breton pointed to his head, and then pointed at his arms. Neither of them were aware of it yet, but they had done something the dunmer masters hadn't thought about. They used sign language to communicate. Over time they created many different words and phrases in sign language, teaching other slaves as well. They established a group of slaves ready to revolt against the dunmer. The young breton had been an apprentice mage who was adept in the school of illusion. They had a plan being worked out and talked about every day. The dark elves were far too powerful, so they would need to sneak out without alerting them, then they will spread out and never look back. During the night time, some slaves would be out their cages either serving or cooking food for the masters late night meetings where they discussed things nobody understood. The plan was for these slaves to distract the dark elves while the rest of the slave's foot steps are suppressed with the use of illusion magick which will only last for a few minutes. Due to the nature of their environment the slaves were like family so a few were willing to stay behind so the others could make it to safety. Even if one of them did not want them to dothis in fear of their own life it's not like they could inform the masters about their plan anyways due to all their tongue being removed. So the night they executed their plan, over 23 slaves made it out. The breton had been so exhausted from using up all his magicka that he collapsed shortly after escaping. The nord chose to help him, picking him up and carrying him. They made it to the sea where they found a boat. While still carrying the breton, he swam across the water and made it to the boat then climbed in. The breton was still out, so he placed him down and searched the boat, then suddenly he heard shouting. "Halt, civilized scum" and a Khajitt with 1 eye swung down and slashed the nords cheek with what appeared to be a "curved sword". The nord lunged at the khajitt and began punching. About 15 armed khajiit and argonians came out from under the ship all with either claws extended or swords unsheathed. The nord looked back at the breton who was still passed out, and then made a writing gesture with his hands, as if to write on his own hand. One of the argonians brought him a piece of paper, ink, and a quill. The nord attempted to write explaining everything. He wrote how the just escaped from a dark elf slaver camp. He explained how he manage to get away, and how the breton used illusion magick to help them escape. The khajitt read what he wrote then spoke some words the nord didn't understand, most likely pirate slang. Then everyone went silent, the Khajitt with 1 eye approached the nord then slapped him on the shoulder and said "why didn't you say so" then declared a toast to their freedom. It turns out, the nord and breton had came across a ship of pirates, who had actually been slaves themselves. The breton was put in a nice bed to rest, and the nord got drunk with the pirates. The khajitt explained the politics of dunmer society, and how they houses worked. He explained the nord was most likely sold at a telvani auction house where they sell slaves. Many of them are rich enough to hire people to find travelers all across remote areas of skyrim and capture them to put them on the Auction house. The khajitt told the nord they could travel with them and they would take them home after finishing their adventure. The next day the breton was told by the nord with the sign language they created what was going on. They would travel with the pirates until they can get back home. So for the next year they traveled across the sea, learning many new fighting techniques, spells, and collecting tons of treasure. By the end of that year the khajitt had said they were returning home to spend their fortune and make love to their wives. The nord and even the breton had become so attuned to this way of living they would cheer along with the other pirates without even noticing it. The breton had became multiple shades darker of complexion due to being out in the sun all the time, and the nord had grown twice the size he was before, with arms thick as entire cannons. They made their way to bleakrock where they all had a party in an inn and then parted ways. The pirates went off back to see, as the breton and the nord went to the dock to find another boat to take them to the mainland of skyrim. In windhelm the nord and breton parted ways, they thanked each other for all the hard work. After sharing one last bottle of mead the breton was on his way. He purchased a horse from the stable with the coin he earned as a pirate, and the nord decided to go to see his family. He traveled to his families farm, but found out that it was sold to some imperial. He wrote on a piece of paper asking the farmers where he could find the imperial, they told him he lived in whiterun. So the nord hitched a ride with a khajitt caravan to whiterun, there he gathered information on the imperial who bought his families farm and eventually found him drinking in an inn with three women sitting with him. He wrote asking him what happen to the people who he bought the farm from, the imperial told the nord that they were down on their luck, they weren't able to hire other farmers and the old man had gotten sick and was able to continue farming. Their profits dried up so they had to sell the farm. Other than that he had no idea. So the nord decided to go back to Riften to visit his wife. When arriving in riften he actually saw his wife right there in the middle of the market. He approached her with tears in his eyes and tried to speak but forgot he had no tongue. So he pulled a piece of paper out his pocket and began writing, but he kept glancing at the bosmer women he had loved so much, noticing her eyes had a different look in them. After he finished writing he gave it to her to read, but she would not read it. Then a high elf putted his arm around her and said "who is this brute?" while smirking. The bosmer women told the nord, she had thought he was dead. So she moved on, and even asked "why aren't you happy for me, I was so alone". In that instance, everything went black. The next thing the nord knew, he was covered in blood with dozens of on lookers in shock. There below his feet lied the high elf, his face a bloody mess which was totally unrecognizable. Then he looked up and saw his wife, both her hands grasping his, as he looked down he saw he had stabbed her with a sword through the gut. He was in shock, falling back as she fell to the ground next to the high elf. The riften guard swarmed the nord. In that moment he lost everything, his family was no where to be found, his wife had found another man and he had murdered her and him both. All he had left was one thing, and that's his freedom. He pulled the sword from out the corpse, and began slashing like a tornado. The guards were overwhelmed by the sheer power of the nord. He slaughtered the entire towns guard in a matter of seconds. Realizing what he had done, he became emotionally void. The nord left riften, and has never returned since...

Damn nice story you got there.

ArchMikem

Yakidafi wrote: »

A few pve questers in cyrodiil.
their screams for mercy never seized, not even when I beheaded them they continued to haunt me from death.

ekmcb wrote: »

Why?

The sense of power is amazing and I can agonize them in different ways, I enjoy experimenting. The more I kill the more I am convinced that they are cursed and need to be purged from these lands because their screams after death keep coming more and louder.

RaddlemanNumber7

The Dres overseer at the farm outside Mournhold gets killed quite regulary, but he's the only one.

Jade1986

Only whoever the DB asks me too, otherwise i just pickpocket and kill people who deserve it.

Aisle9

1. All of them
2. Because

stimpy986b14_ESO

"Good" and "evil" are based 100% on point of view as are "guilt" and "innocence". My nightblade has killed millions of "innocents" but from his point of view, he's cleansing Nirn of the weak.

Emothic

stimpy986b14_ESO wrote: »

"Good" and "evil" are based 100% on point of view as are "guilt" and "innocence". My nightblade has killed millions of "innocents" but from his point of view, he's cleansing Nirn of the weak.

Agreed. Good an evil are nothing more then just human views to things around us, but in nature good an evil does not exsist. Yet good and evil only applies to humans and nothing more. what we can see as good, can also be very bad. We see that having very advance technology good to our society, yet it is very bad for the earth as we must harvest the resources to make that technology. Yet since it doesn't harm humans it isn't seen as bad or evil.

logarifmik

My Breton sorcerer killed so many innocents after joining The Dark Brotherhood, it's really hard to say how many exactly, not to speak of which ones in particular. Let me explain how he ended up with The Dark Brotherhood instead.
Before the abduction by Molag Bal, he was a dedicated scholar, mainly in the arcane art known as Conjuration. After losing his soul, he tried to find all possible information regarding this subject. In particular, it was not quite clear how a "Nirn vessel" or so-called "Vestige" could exist without soul strictly attached to it. Obviously, only being a living example is not enough to answer this question. The Prophet's tall tales gave almost nothing, they only sound intuitive, vague and full of religious nonsense. Abnur Tharn for his own reasons refused to share his knowledge, maybe because he treated Vestige more like a tool, at least at first. Membership in the Mages Guild gave access to works of Abbot Crassius Viria, Beredalmo the Signifier, Corvus Direnni and other significant scholars, which shed some light on the problem, but it still was not enough. There were more questions. How such a phenomenon as "Vestige" can even be possible? Is a Vestige just a hollow shell, which have more in common with some resurrected corpse, than with the living person? Maybe it can be explained by the black art of Conjuration, by the Necromancy?
Gathering knowledge forbidden by the Mages Guild, he didn't even thought about killing any innocent person. However, fighting countless enemies, he discovered an ability to kill by burning, or more precisely dissipating, foe's soul, destroying the very essence of life. It was nothing like Destruction or Mysticism spell, a way in which he interacts with souls had much in common with the Necromancy technics. He concluded that closer studying of Soul Magic could give a clue. He quickly discovered, that it's hard to analyze disintegration of soul in battle, more like a scholar approach is needed here, quieter environment. And then he met Amelie Crowe.
At first, he was very skeptical about Amelie Crowe... proposal. He thought that she is just a lunatic who read some books, nothing more, until one encounter changed his mind. He don't remember a name of the first... subject. It was a man, not innocent, guilty, but unarmed and broken. He begged for his life, but curiosity was stronger. He was killed, dissected, studied; his death was filled with meaning. And at that very moment Vestige heard voice of The Void. The Voice told him to find Amelie Crowe, and listen to her, then find Night Mother's children on the Gold Coast, or more precisely, allow them to find him. The Voice promised help in the study, but only if Vestige would serve the Night Mother well. He was aware how dangerous such kind of offers could be, but he accepted nevertheless.
After wandering through the city of Anvil for a few hours, he found a suitable subject. The deed was done, valuable information was extracted, and he became a little closer to the understanding of the nature of soul. As The Voice have promised and Amelie Crowe have said, he was contacted by the children of the Night Mother, The Dark Brotherhood. Under the guidance of Speaker Terenus and with the blessing of Sithis, the study continued.

ekmcb

I'm not sure some here are quite understanding what I meant by a "good" guy/character...

bloodthirstyvampire

I just wanted to drink in peace then this guy comes in saying you'll pay for that, apparently it was his wife, I reunited them

Fleshreaper

There are no, innocents in the eyes of our Dread-father, Lord Sithis.

starlizard70ub17_ESO

I used to be a good character...
.... then I took an arrow to the knee....
things escalated pretty quickly after that.

(After 4 years, I've killed every npc/mob that can be killed in the game. Innocent, not innocent... everyone becomes fair game from time to time. I blame it all on the Thieves guild and Dark Brotherhood for turning us towards the dark side.)

Thannazzar

All Altmer, if they run they are Thalmor scum, if they stand still they are well trained Thalmor scum!

BigBadVolk

All of them, and because some man just wants to watch the world burn

Chaos2088

HOLY MOLEY!!!

A wall of tx.....that's all I got to....sorry/not sorry.

CelestialSlayer

If its case of avoiding bounty - you die even if you are only cleaning the floor.....its not personal.