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Should Zos continue to sell Crowns at a discount?
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pshift✭✭✭OtherCelestialSlayer wrote: »you try and make a poll and not get the "biased poll is biased" responses - it wont be easy.
Sure it is, you simply don't put biased answers in the poll. -
CelestialSlayer✭✭✭They should do a discount on store items and not crownsCelestialSlayer wrote: »you try and make a poll and not get the "biased poll is biased" responses - it wont be easy.
Sure it is, you simply don't put biased answers in the poll.
well i did it spur of the moment. whilst on a tea break at work. So i didnt really think about the "consequences" of being biased. -
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✭✭✭Yes - because I don't care if it might make things more expensive in the future.jedtb16_ESO wrote: »CelestialSlayer wrote: »CelestialSlayer wrote: »someone the other day raised a good point about how flooding the market with cheap crowns just causes inflationary pricing and devalues the crowns themselves
Wait what ? What the hell are you talking about ?
Market economics
hmm.... the crown store is not a market economy.
Meaning what?
If people are willing to spend a lot, they will milk that audience for what they can get, discounted crowns or not.
Plus, there are people who are responsible until they see a sale and lose their ***. "Look at all the nonsense I bought for half off! I am a wise shopper!"
Gaming prices in general follow the same. You can get everything cheaper on sale, and sales are common for almost everything. Even preorders normally have 20% of sales for every AAA game. Full price is for impulse buyers who just can't wait. Limited availability stuff also helps get people to pay the higher price. Anyone thinking they get $15 worth of crowns with their monthly sub isn't paying attention. -
DeadlyPhoenix✭✭✭✭✭OtherCelestialSlayer wrote: »DeadlyPhoenix wrote: »It doesn't really matter what we or they do either way.
ZOS controls the value of crowns and the value of crowns store items. If they stop giving crowns at a discount and instead start discounting specific crown store items, they will simply make the initial cost of the crown store item whatever they want. 10k crowns for a motif for example so that at 50% off they make 5k.
They will just change up they way their model works. You can believe that if they put crowns on sale it's profit for them either way. They decide what crowns are worth and what the crown store items are worth.
It's all up to them and they aren't going to hurt their profit margins to give "you" the best deal. It's just the same thing in a different wrapper to put it simply.
true - different perpectives really - cheap crowns and expensive prices or cheaper prices and more expensive crowns - my main point is that when they discount crowns the eso plus members get their montly allocation devalued - or should eso plus members just look at the 1500 crowns as a freebie and not something to base their subscription on?
Pretty much the 1500 I count as a freebie, yes.
You already get double bank space, double housing furniture slots, craft bag, access to all DLCs and more.
Besides, if you buy crowns and don't subscribe you're wasting money imo unless you always just purchase the large crown packs for the better "value".
1500 crowns for $15 or subscribe for $15 and get 1500 crowns free with all the added perks.
Crown sales don't devalue ESO+ because it has its own value outside of the free crowns.
If they stopped giving 1500 crowns for ESO+ I might stop subbing, I might not.... the craft bag and double space is just too hard to pass up unless you like play Inventory Management Online.
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Also note that they already do discounts on specific items in the crown store at times. Sometimes up to 50-75% off. We get it both ways, store items and crowns on sale, the way it should be.Edited by DeadlyPhoenix on April 13, 2018 1:37PM -
Scorpiodisc✭✭✭CelestialSlayer wrote: »The reason i am holding this poll is because someone the other day raised a good point about how flooding the market with cheap crowns just causes inflationary pricing and devalues the crowns themselves and from another angle actually devalue the value of the monthly subscription for Eso plus members. If you want to increase sales you should discount store items not the currency.
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CelestialSlayer✭✭✭They should do a discount on store items and not crownsDeadlyPhoenix wrote: »CelestialSlayer wrote: »DeadlyPhoenix wrote: »It doesn't really matter what we or they do either way.
ZOS controls the value of crowns and the value of crowns store items. If they stop giving crowns at a discount and instead start discounting specific crown store items, they will simply make the initial cost of the crown store item whatever they want. 10k crowns for a motif for example so that at 50% off they make 5k.
They will just change up they way their model works. You can believe that if they put crowns on sale it's profit for them either way. They decide what crowns are worth and what the crown store items are worth.
It's all up to them and they aren't going to hurt their profit margins to give "you" the best deal. It's just the same thing in a different wrapper to put it simply.
true - different perpectives really - cheap crowns and expensive prices or cheaper prices and more expensive crowns - my main point is that when they discount crowns the eso plus members get their montly allocation devalued - or should eso plus members just look at the 1500 crowns as a freebie and not something to base their subscription on?
Pretty much the 1500 I count as a freebie, yes.
You already get double bank space, double housing furniture slots, craft bag, access to all DLCs and more.
Besides, if you buy crowns and don't subscribe you're wasting money imo unless you always just purchase the large crown packs for the better "value".
1500 crowns for $15 or subscribe for $15 and get 1500 crowns free with all the added perks.
Crown sales don't devalue ESO+ because it has its own value outside of the free crowns.
If they stopped giving 1500 crowns for ESO+ I might stop subbing, I might not.... the craft bag and double space is just too hard to pass up unless you like play Inventory Management Online.
yeah i cant imagine living without the craft bag - whoever thought of that was a clever marketing bod. Its hard not to sound negative, but it was just a theory i was having. I work in toy industry and i have seen how discounting has destroyed the industry over the last few years since black friday. but as Eso is closed market they only have to compete and price for themselves and their captive market so its a lot easier to manage i suppose. -
CelestialSlayer✭✭✭They should do a discount on store items and not crownsScorpiodisc wrote: »CelestialSlayer wrote: »The reason i am holding this poll is because someone the other day raised a good point about how flooding the market with cheap crowns just causes inflationary pricing and devalues the crowns themselves and from another angle actually devalue the value of the monthly subscription for Eso plus members. If you want to increase sales you should discount store items not the currency.
Just stop.
its just a debate. dont worry i dont hate Zos and im not asking for compensation unlike some people on here recently so i dont think my poll is as offensive as some things i have seen on here recently. I am entitled to an opinion on a product i pay for if you like it or not. -
DeadlyPhoenix✭✭✭✭✭OtherCelestialSlayer wrote: »DeadlyPhoenix wrote: »CelestialSlayer wrote: »DeadlyPhoenix wrote: »It doesn't really matter what we or they do either way.
ZOS controls the value of crowns and the value of crowns store items. If they stop giving crowns at a discount and instead start discounting specific crown store items, they will simply make the initial cost of the crown store item whatever they want. 10k crowns for a motif for example so that at 50% off they make 5k.
They will just change up they way their model works. You can believe that if they put crowns on sale it's profit for them either way. They decide what crowns are worth and what the crown store items are worth.
It's all up to them and they aren't going to hurt their profit margins to give "you" the best deal. It's just the same thing in a different wrapper to put it simply.
true - different perpectives really - cheap crowns and expensive prices or cheaper prices and more expensive crowns - my main point is that when they discount crowns the eso plus members get their montly allocation devalued - or should eso plus members just look at the 1500 crowns as a freebie and not something to base their subscription on?
Pretty much the 1500 I count as a freebie, yes.
You already get double bank space, double housing furniture slots, craft bag, access to all DLCs and more.
Besides, if you buy crowns and don't subscribe you're wasting money imo unless you always just purchase the large crown packs for the better "value".
1500 crowns for $15 or subscribe for $15 and get 1500 crowns free with all the added perks.
Crown sales don't devalue ESO+ because it has its own value outside of the free crowns.
If they stopped giving 1500 crowns for ESO+ I might stop subbing, I might not.... the craft bag and double space is just too hard to pass up unless you like play Inventory Management Online.
yeah i cant imagine living without the craft bag - whoever thought of that was a clever marketing bod. Its hard not to sound negative, but it was just a theory i was having. I work in toy industry and i have seen how discounting has destroyed the industry over the last few years since black friday. but as Eso is closed market they only have to compete and price for themselves and their captive market so its a lot easier to manage i suppose.
I also edited that post at the end.
This is correct though that they really only have to compete with themselves. -
Merenwen_812✭✭✭Otheryes, because I can only buy on sale LOL
speaking of they should be on sale RIGHT NOW.... -
Soul_Marrow✭✭✭OtherCelestialSlayer wrote: »Soul_Marrow wrote: »This is the dumbest and most misleading Q/A poll I have ever seen. You are either a ZOS employee or a very unintelligent player. Just because YOU think something it doesn't make the facts less factual. That's the beauty of a fact, they stay facts regardless of someone's opinion of them. The things they sell are EXTRA revenue for them, if you think they NEED it to get by then you have sipped the Kool-Aid one too many times. Pass. You offer a sale on crowns as a way to keep customer morale high and to spark extra spending. It encourages an upward trend in revenue. Nearly everything in the crown store is a cosmetic re-skin and takes almost no time or effort to create in comparison to the amount of money made on said item. Please learn basic economics before assuming so many things about the topic you are commenting on. There is much more for you to learn.
hey there. no need to get pesonal with your objections. All this is your opinion, and just becuase it is your opinion doesnt make it fact. I dont need a lecture on basic economics from someone who it would appear knows very little about sales and the impact that discounts have on the value of an item over a period with consumers. You only need to look at Black Friday and how that has effected consumer spending. but thanks for the lesson.
I'm sorry if you didn't like my approach, but the facts remain in tact. You didn't bother listed all of the available options, you simply listed options that seemed to fit your narrative.
Here is a HYPOTHETICAL example I will give:
You create a post asking men & women if they find you attractive, but instead of the choices being simply "yes", "no", or "I don't know" as one would expect due to the context of real conversation, you decide to add onto those answers in order to fit your narrative. NOW the answers you provide these men & women to choose from are as follows:
1) "Yes, because I have good taste."
2) "No, because I have poor taste."
3) "I don't know because I am blinded by my own bitterness of being unattractive."
These options don't give a fair representation of REAL answers people may give, they are slanted in order to suit your hypothetical narrative of wanting people to tell you that you are attractive and if they state their true answer (which would stop at yes, no, or I don't know", it only invalidates their true opinion of you. Make more sense now?
The things I mentioned above in my original post ARE facts, not opinions. An opinion is something that someone thinks, a fact can be supported by evidence. The facts come from a basic understanding of economics and can be supported by known sales tactics and data.
Also, this:
CelestialSlayer wrote: »
someone the other day raised a good point about how flooding the market with cheap crowns just causes inflationary pricing and devalues the crowns themselves
This is a terrible point. Crowns aren't a currency that can be used or passed around among people unlike real money. Apples to oranges.
This isn't a REAL currency. You are pretending inflation exists for a faux currency that is used as a marketing ploy. I would consider saying that MAYBE the argument could be made if these items were listed for sale in USD (or equivalent) and the items were simply lowered in price and considered "on sale", but this is ALSO apples to oranges. Crowns are not a real form of currency which is why they have to be purchased with another form of currency. They are used as a way to obscure the real cost of an item and to "trick" the consumer into buying more crowns by offering set amounts of crowns for sale and then charging more or less crowns for an item than you can buy in said crown packages. You end up with either not enough crowns to make your purchase or more crowns than you need for the original purchase which entices you to spend those crowns on another purchase (where the left over amount is unlikely to be enough to obtain the 2nd item so you have to purchase even more crowns until it finally "zero's" itself out). There is a reason crowns aren't 1:1 with USD, which would also render them completely useless in the first place. Once again, basic sales and economics. -
JWKe✭✭✭✭Yes - because I dont subscribe and they are my way of buying items from the crown storeI think ZoS would rather retain the current model they have now of discounting crowns rather than the items in the store. I reckon they have more control that way.
The pattern we see with ZoS has always been that they would conduct a crown sale sometime toward the end of each quarterly report. But, now for instance we assume they follow the crown store discount format as you proposed where now item a,b,c go on sale before the end of say December however you as the player like neither of those items and so you skip out on buying them so now ZoS's quarterly report takes a slump. However, with a crown sale whether or not players need the crowns they are going to buy it anyway because crowns are essentially like gift cards it gives players the option to choose.
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✭✭✭Yes - because I don't care if it might make things more expensive in the future.DeadlyPhoenix wrote: »...
Pretty much the 1500 I count as a freebie, yes.
You already get double bank space, double housing furniture slots, craft bag, access to all DLCs and more.
Besides, if you buy crowns and don't subscribe you're wasting money imo unless you always just purchase the large crown packs for the better "value".
1500 crowns for $15 or subscribe for $15 and get 1500 crowns free with all the added perks.
Crown sales don't devalue ESO+ because it has its own value outside of the free crowns.
If they stopped giving 1500 crowns for ESO+ I might stop subbing, I might not.... the craft bag and double space is just too hard to pass up unless you like play Inventory Management Online.
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Also note that they already do discounts on specific items in the crown store at times. Sometimes up to 50-75% off. We get it both ways, store items and crowns on sale, the way it should be.
If you might stop subbing if the got rid of crowns, then how is it a freebie? Tortured logic.
And why would you mention 1500 crowns for $15 in a discussion about value? People looking for value never buy 1500 crowns for $15. They buy in bulk at half that rate or better.
The inventory buffs of the sub are great. There is nothing wrong with an argument centered around that. But if you cite 1500 crowns for $15, you aren't trying to have an honest discussion. Your are just trying to make a point. -
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✭I wasnt bothered either wayCelestialSlayer wrote: »The reason i am holding this poll is because someone the other day raised a good point about how flooding the market with cheap crowns just causes inflationary pricing and devalues the crowns themselves and from another angle actually devalue the value of the monthly subscription for Eso plus members. If you want to increase sales you should discount store items not the currency.
and why does this bother you??
are you the CFO at Zenimax?
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✭✭I wasnt bothered either wayDaveMoeDee wrote: »jedtb16_ESO wrote: »CelestialSlayer wrote: »CelestialSlayer wrote: »someone the other day raised a good point about how flooding the market with cheap crowns just causes inflationary pricing and devalues the crowns themselves
Wait what ? What the hell are you talking about ?
Market economics
hmm.... the crown store is not a market economy.
Meaning what?
If people are willing to spend a lot, they will milk that audience for what they can get, discounted crowns or not.
Plus, there are people who are responsible until they see a sale and lose their ***. "Look at all the nonsense I bought for half off! I am a wise shopper!"
Gaming prices in general follow the same. You can get everything cheaper on sale, and sales are common for almost everything. Even preorders normally have 20% of sales for every AAA game. Full price is for impulse buyers who just can't wait. Limited availability stuff also helps get people to pay the higher price. Anyone thinking they get $15 worth of crowns with their monthly sub isn't paying attention.
meaning exactly what it says...
the crown store is not a market economy (did you read the post i was responding to? perhaps you should)
the crown store is more like the old style company store. you work for the company and get paid with tokens that can only be used in the companies store.
instead of responding to that you go off on some half-arsed irrelevant rant.
good day to you.pc eu eso+
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CelestialSlayer✭✭✭They should do a discount on store items and not crownsCelestialSlayer wrote: »The reason i am holding this poll is because someone the other day raised a good point about how flooding the market with cheap crowns just causes inflationary pricing and devalues the crowns themselves and from another angle actually devalue the value of the monthly subscription for Eso plus members. If you want to increase sales you should discount store items not the currency.
and why does this bother you??
are you the CFO at Zenimax?
you got me
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DaveMoeDee✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Yes - because I don't care if it might make things more expensive in the future.jedtb16_ESO wrote: »DaveMoeDee wrote: »jedtb16_ESO wrote: »CelestialSlayer wrote: »CelestialSlayer wrote: »someone the other day raised a good point about how flooding the market with cheap crowns just causes inflationary pricing and devalues the crowns themselves
Wait what ? What the hell are you talking about ?
Market economics
hmm.... the crown store is not a market economy.
Meaning what?
If people are willing to spend a lot, they will milk that audience for what they can get, discounted crowns or not.
Plus, there are people who are responsible until they see a sale and lose their ***. "Look at all the nonsense I bought for half off! I am a wise shopper!"
Gaming prices in general follow the same. You can get everything cheaper on sale, and sales are common for almost everything. Even preorders normally have 20% of sales for every AAA game. Full price is for impulse buyers who just can't wait. Limited availability stuff also helps get people to pay the higher price. Anyone thinking they get $15 worth of crowns with their monthly sub isn't paying attention.
meaning exactly what it says...
the crown store is not a market economy (did you read the post i was responding to? perhaps you should)
the crown store is more like the old style company store. you work for the company and get paid with tokens that can only be used in the companies store.
instead of responding to that you go off on some half-arsed irrelevant rant.
good day to you.
Yes, I read the preceding posts. They don't make your comment any less inane.
They will price to what the market will bear. You have a very idiosyncratic definition of market. -
Rain_Greyraven✭✭✭✭✭I wasnt bothered either way
It's not superior for consoles of the income of ZOS.PelinalWhitestrake wrote: »Just go back to the P2P model. It's vastly superior to the current model.
As much as we hate it the B2P Crown Store model has proven to be very good for their income, and attracted a lot more players it seems.
As for the poll I think the better way to do things is discount the items rather than the crowns. I think we'll see things continue as they are though, because as I said above this is working for them.
@Turelus We? B2P?
Sorry...despite your title you really don't represent me.....
I honestly Never cared one way or the other personally I purchase crowns even buy crates if the mood strikes me....
Further....I usually laugh at so called gamers that get their undies in a bunch because other people decide to spend their own money how they see fit or organize a "resistance" group to get their way; don't get me wrong the community management are just as much to blame for allowing these vicious little cliques to basically set the culture of outrage tone of forum and in game communications.
You are right about the business model attracting a lot of players, it's just a pity that ZoS displays an apologetic tone for making capitalism work.Edited by Rain_Greyraven on April 13, 2018 2:59PM"Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing.”
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MilwaukeeScott✭✭✭✭✭OtherYes. I like bargains!PS4NA
All I see is hate and rage from people who don't understand how to..... -
MacCait✭✭✭✭✭
✭OP, this post is ludicrous and not worth voting on.
You say the reason you are "holding this poll is because someone the other day raised a good point about how flooding the market with cheap crowns just causes inflationary pricing and devalues the crowns themselves and from another angle actually devalue the value of the monthly subscription for ESO plus members"
First of all, that's not even true. So your poll is based on a complete fabrication, a false point.
ZOS causes inflation in prices, no one else! IF we were talking about the type of product that involved production costs, then and only then you might, kinda, possibly, have a point... but these are digital products. There is NO production cost involved. The programmers and designers all receive a salary and there are NO overheads involving any production materials. So ZOS gets 100% profit from every single sale. Whether ZOS sells a product for 50 crowns or 13,000 crowns, they make 100% profit. So the whole reason behind your poll is completly illusionary.
Secondly, your 2 options for 'yes they should continue to sell crowns on sale...', give no option other than to agree with your illusionary point of view. One option is 'yes because I dont subscribe...', and the other is 'yes because I don't care...' Therfore, your poll is bias. You needed a YES, BECAUSE I DISAGREE, YOUR POINT IS INVALID.
Crowns should go on sale because the items sold on the crown store are incredibly overpriced to begin with and have become aimed at whales in the community who have masses of disposable income. Many players have a family, a mortgage, many bills to cover, and therefore little disposable income. These players cannot afford to spend 13,000 crowns on a digital home in a limited 4-day period. 13,000 crowns is about £65-70, which is a ridiculous amount of money for a digital cosmetic.
Going back a few years, the cost of a mount was just around 2000 crowns... but then it rapidly creeped up in price to 3000, 4000, and then 5000, and even 5500. The forums were busy discussing the outrageous raise in price It had nothing to do with crowns going on sale. It was ZOS marketing, testing how far they could push players for the most profit.
It has absolutely nothing to do with crown sales and everything to do with corporate greed, continually pussing the boundaries on how much players will spend on cosmetics, and trying to make the most profit.
The fact that you or anytone else would suggest it has to do with crown sales raises an alarm and makes me think you actually work for ZOS.Edited by MacCait on April 13, 2018 5:00PMPS4 EU server - Valenwood Vanguard
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CelestialSlayer✭✭✭They should do a discount on store items and not crownsOP, this post is ludicrous and not worth voting on.
You say the reason you are "holding this poll is because someone the other day raised a good point about how flooding the market with cheap crowns just causes inflationary pricing and devalues the crowns themselves and from another angle actually devalue the value of the monthly subscription for ESO plus members"
First of all, that's not even true. So your poll is based on a complete fabrication, a false point.
ZOS causes inflation in prices, no one else! IF we were talking about the type of product that involved production costs, then and only then you might, kinda, possibly, have a point... but these are digital products. There is NO production cost involved. The programmers and designers all receive a salary and there are NO overheads involving any production materials. So ZOS gets 100% profit from every single sale. Whether ZOS sells a product for 50 crowns or 13,000 crowns, they make 100% profit. So the whole reason behind your poll is completly illusionary.
Secondly, your 2 options for 'yes they should continue to sell crowns on sale...', give no option other than to agree with your illusionary point of view. One option is 'yes because I dont subscribe...', and the other is 'yes because I don't care...' Therfore, your poll is bias. You needed a YES, BECAUSE I DISAGREE, YOUR POINT IS INVALID.
Crowns should go on sale because the items sold on the crown store are incredibly overpriced to begin with and have become aimed at whales in the community who have masses of disposable income. Many players have a family, a mortgage, many bills to cover, and therefore little disposable income. These players cannot afford to spend 13,000 crowns on a digital home in a limited 4-day period. 13,000 crowns is about £65-70, which is a ridiculous amount of money for a digital cosmetic.
Going back a few years, the cost of a mount was just around 2000 crowns... but then it rapidly creeped up in price to 3000, 4000, and then 5000, and even 5500. The forums were busy discussing the outrageous raise in price It had nothing to do with crowns going on sale. It was ZOS marketing, testing how far they could push players for the most profit.
It has absolutely nothing to do with crown sales and everything to do with corporate greed, continually pussing the boundaries on how much players will spend on cosmetics, and trying to make the most profit.
The fact that you or anytone else would suggest it has to do with crown sales raises an alarm and makes me think you actually work for ZOS.
What a ridiculous end to your point. I'm sure ZOS employee's are not allowed to post on the forums. I know where i work we aren't allowed and it is only dedicated personnel who are allowed. You were doing quite well until you finished on a needlesly personal remark. I've already commented on the poll. Yes I have an opinion. And yes it's different to yours What a crazy notion that is. Thanks for your input though. -
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✭CelestialSlayer wrote: »OP, this post is ludicrous and not worth voting on.
You say the reason you are "holding this poll is because someone the other day raised a good point about how flooding the market with cheap crowns just causes inflationary pricing and devalues the crowns themselves and from another angle actually devalue the value of the monthly subscription for ESO plus members"
First of all, that's not even true. So your poll is based on a complete fabrication, a false point.
ZOS causes inflation in prices, no one else! IF we were talking about the type of product that involved production costs, then and only then you might, kinda, possibly, have a point... but these are digital products. There is NO production cost involved. The programmers and designers all receive a salary and there are NO overheads involving any production materials. So ZOS gets 100% profit from every single sale. Whether ZOS sells a product for 50 crowns or 13,000 crowns, they make 100% profit. So the whole reason behind your poll is completly illusionary.
Secondly, your 2 options for 'yes they should continue to sell crowns on sale...', give no option other than to agree with your illusionary point of view. One option is 'yes because I dont subscribe...', and the other is 'yes because I don't care...' Therfore, your poll is bias. You needed a YES, BECAUSE I DISAGREE, YOUR POINT IS INVALID.
Crowns should go on sale because the items sold on the crown store are incredibly overpriced to begin with and have become aimed at whales in the community who have masses of disposable income. Many players have a family, a mortgage, many bills to cover, and therefore little disposable income. These players cannot afford to spend 13,000 crowns on a digital home in a limited 4-day period. 13,000 crowns is about £65-70, which is a ridiculous amount of money for a digital cosmetic.
Going back a few years, the cost of a mount was just around 2000 crowns... but then it rapidly creeped up in price to 3000, 4000, and then 5000, and even 5500. The forums were busy discussing the outrageous raise in price It had nothing to do with crowns going on sale. It was ZOS marketing, testing how far they could push players for the most profit.
It has absolutely nothing to do with crown sales and everything to do with corporate greed, continually pussing the boundaries on how much players will spend on cosmetics, and trying to make the most profit.
The fact that you or anytone else would suggest it has to do with crown sales raises an alarm and makes me think you actually work for ZOS.
What a ridiculous end to your point. I'm sure ZOS employee's are not allowed to post on the forums. I know where i work we aren't allowed and it is only dedicated personnel who are allowed. You were doing quite well until you finished on a needlesly personal remark. I've already commented on the poll. Yes I have an opinion. And yes it's different to yours What a crazy notion that is. Thanks for your input though.
Hey you say you don't work for ZOS, ok no problem. Either way it cannot be proven.If you did work for ZOS of course you wouldn't openly claim so and officially wouldn't be allowed to post like that... but anyone can open a forum account.
It's not personal at all, I'm not attacking you in any way in stating that. I'm stating that your post raises an alarm and made me think you may work for ZOS. I thought this because of the two points I mentioned, being the bias post and a false point of view. If you do not work for ZOS, then you are not really thinking this through. Why would crown sales have anything to do with driving up prices of crown items, that have zero production costs?
The prices for mounts alone went up month by month and there was not a crown sale in that whole period.
Why would you NOT want a crown sale? That seems suspicious to me. That suspicion is based wholly on you your post and has nothing to do with you personally.PS4 EU server - Valenwood Vanguard
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✭✭I wasnt bothered either wayCelestialSlayer wrote: »OP, this post is ludicrous and not worth voting on.
You say the reason you are "holding this poll is because someone the other day raised a good point about how flooding the market with cheap crowns just causes inflationary pricing and devalues the crowns themselves and from another angle actually devalue the value of the monthly subscription for ESO plus members"
First of all, that's not even true. So your poll is based on a complete fabrication, a false point.
ZOS causes inflation in prices, no one else! IF we were talking about the type of product that involved production costs, then and only then you might, kinda, possibly, have a point... but these are digital products. There is NO production cost involved. The programmers and designers all receive a salary and there are NO overheads involving any production materials. So ZOS gets 100% profit from every single sale. Whether ZOS sells a product for 50 crowns or 13,000 crowns, they make 100% profit. So the whole reason behind your poll is completly illusionary.
Secondly, your 2 options for 'yes they should continue to sell crowns on sale...', give no option other than to agree with your illusionary point of view. One option is 'yes because I dont subscribe...', and the other is 'yes because I don't care...' Therfore, your poll is bias. You needed a YES, BECAUSE I DISAGREE, YOUR POINT IS INVALID.
Crowns should go on sale because the items sold on the crown store are incredibly overpriced to begin with and have become aimed at whales in the community who have masses of disposable income. Many players have a family, a mortgage, many bills to cover, and therefore little disposable income. These players cannot afford to spend 13,000 crowns on a digital home in a limited 4-day period. 13,000 crowns is about £65-70, which is a ridiculous amount of money for a digital cosmetic.
Going back a few years, the cost of a mount was just around 2000 crowns... but then it rapidly creeped up in price to 3000, 4000, and then 5000, and even 5500. The forums were busy discussing the outrageous raise in price It had nothing to do with crowns going on sale. It was ZOS marketing, testing how far they could push players for the most profit.
It has absolutely nothing to do with crown sales and everything to do with corporate greed, continually pussing the boundaries on how much players will spend on cosmetics, and trying to make the most profit.
The fact that you or anytone else would suggest it has to do with crown sales raises an alarm and makes me think you actually work for ZOS.
What a ridiculous end to your point. I'm sure ZOS employee's are not allowed to post on the forums. I know where i work we aren't allowed and it is only dedicated personnel who are allowed. You were doing quite well until you finished on a needlesly personal remark. I've already commented on the poll. Yes I have an opinion. And yes it's different to yours What a crazy notion that is. Thanks for your input though.
Hey you say you don't work for ZOS, ok no problem. Either way it cannot be proven.If you did work for ZOS of course you wouldn't openly claim so and officially wouldn't be allowed to post like that... but anyone can open a forum account.
It's not personal at all, I'm not attacking you in any way in stating that. I'm stating that your post raises an alarm and made me think you may work for ZOS. I thought this because of the two points I mentioned, being the bias post and a false point of view. If you do not work for ZOS, then you are not really thinking this through. Why would crown sales have anything to do with driving up prices of crown items, that have zero production costs?
The prices for mounts alone went up month by month and there was not a crown sale in that whole period.
Why would you NOT want a crown sale? That seems suspicious to me. That suspicion is based wholly on you your post and has nothing to do with you personally.
can you prove that you don't work for a games company that is competing with zos, further can you prove that you have not been paid by said company to come to this forum and trash zos's business model?
well, can you ?pc eu eso+
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✭jedtb16_ESO wrote: »CelestialSlayer wrote: »OP, this post is ludicrous and not worth voting on.
You say the reason you are "holding this poll is because someone the other day raised a good point about how flooding the market with cheap crowns just causes inflationary pricing and devalues the crowns themselves and from another angle actually devalue the value of the monthly subscription for ESO plus members"
First of all, that's not even true. So your poll is based on a complete fabrication, a false point.
ZOS causes inflation in prices, no one else! IF we were talking about the type of product that involved production costs, then and only then you might, kinda, possibly, have a point... but these are digital products. There is NO production cost involved. The programmers and designers all receive a salary and there are NO overheads involving any production materials. So ZOS gets 100% profit from every single sale. Whether ZOS sells a product for 50 crowns or 13,000 crowns, they make 100% profit. So the whole reason behind your poll is completly illusionary.
Secondly, your 2 options for 'yes they should continue to sell crowns on sale...', give no option other than to agree with your illusionary point of view. One option is 'yes because I dont subscribe...', and the other is 'yes because I don't care...' Therfore, your poll is bias. You needed a YES, BECAUSE I DISAGREE, YOUR POINT IS INVALID.
Crowns should go on sale because the items sold on the crown store are incredibly overpriced to begin with and have become aimed at whales in the community who have masses of disposable income. Many players have a family, a mortgage, many bills to cover, and therefore little disposable income. These players cannot afford to spend 13,000 crowns on a digital home in a limited 4-day period. 13,000 crowns is about £65-70, which is a ridiculous amount of money for a digital cosmetic.
Going back a few years, the cost of a mount was just around 2000 crowns... but then it rapidly creeped up in price to 3000, 4000, and then 5000, and even 5500. The forums were busy discussing the outrageous raise in price It had nothing to do with crowns going on sale. It was ZOS marketing, testing how far they could push players for the most profit.
It has absolutely nothing to do with crown sales and everything to do with corporate greed, continually pussing the boundaries on how much players will spend on cosmetics, and trying to make the most profit.
The fact that you or anytone else would suggest it has to do with crown sales raises an alarm and makes me think you actually work for ZOS.
What a ridiculous end to your point. I'm sure ZOS employee's are not allowed to post on the forums. I know where i work we aren't allowed and it is only dedicated personnel who are allowed. You were doing quite well until you finished on a needlesly personal remark. I've already commented on the poll. Yes I have an opinion. And yes it's different to yours What a crazy notion that is. Thanks for your input though.
Hey you say you don't work for ZOS, ok no problem. Either way it cannot be proven.If you did work for ZOS of course you wouldn't openly claim so and officially wouldn't be allowed to post like that... but anyone can open a forum account.
It's not personal at all, I'm not attacking you in any way in stating that. I'm stating that your post raises an alarm and made me think you may work for ZOS. I thought this because of the two points I mentioned, being the bias post and a false point of view. If you do not work for ZOS, then you are not really thinking this through. Why would crown sales have anything to do with driving up prices of crown items, that have zero production costs?
The prices for mounts alone went up month by month and there was not a crown sale in that whole period.
Why would you NOT want a crown sale? That seems suspicious to me. That suspicion is based wholly on you your post and has nothing to do with you personally.
can you prove that you don't work for a games company that is competing with zos, further can you prove that you have not been paid by said company to come to this forum and trash zos's business model?
well, can you ?
Nope, I cannot... What's your point?PS4 EU server - Valenwood Vanguard
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✭✭I wasnt bothered either wayjedtb16_ESO wrote: »CelestialSlayer wrote: »OP, this post is ludicrous and not worth voting on.
You say the reason you are "holding this poll is because someone the other day raised a good point about how flooding the market with cheap crowns just causes inflationary pricing and devalues the crowns themselves and from another angle actually devalue the value of the monthly subscription for ESO plus members"
First of all, that's not even true. So your poll is based on a complete fabrication, a false point.
ZOS causes inflation in prices, no one else! IF we were talking about the type of product that involved production costs, then and only then you might, kinda, possibly, have a point... but these are digital products. There is NO production cost involved. The programmers and designers all receive a salary and there are NO overheads involving any production materials. So ZOS gets 100% profit from every single sale. Whether ZOS sells a product for 50 crowns or 13,000 crowns, they make 100% profit. So the whole reason behind your poll is completly illusionary.
Secondly, your 2 options for 'yes they should continue to sell crowns on sale...', give no option other than to agree with your illusionary point of view. One option is 'yes because I dont subscribe...', and the other is 'yes because I don't care...' Therfore, your poll is bias. You needed a YES, BECAUSE I DISAGREE, YOUR POINT IS INVALID.
Crowns should go on sale because the items sold on the crown store are incredibly overpriced to begin with and have become aimed at whales in the community who have masses of disposable income. Many players have a family, a mortgage, many bills to cover, and therefore little disposable income. These players cannot afford to spend 13,000 crowns on a digital home in a limited 4-day period. 13,000 crowns is about £65-70, which is a ridiculous amount of money for a digital cosmetic.
Going back a few years, the cost of a mount was just around 2000 crowns... but then it rapidly creeped up in price to 3000, 4000, and then 5000, and even 5500. The forums were busy discussing the outrageous raise in price It had nothing to do with crowns going on sale. It was ZOS marketing, testing how far they could push players for the most profit.
It has absolutely nothing to do with crown sales and everything to do with corporate greed, continually pussing the boundaries on how much players will spend on cosmetics, and trying to make the most profit.
The fact that you or anytone else would suggest it has to do with crown sales raises an alarm and makes me think you actually work for ZOS.
What a ridiculous end to your point. I'm sure ZOS employee's are not allowed to post on the forums. I know where i work we aren't allowed and it is only dedicated personnel who are allowed. You were doing quite well until you finished on a needlesly personal remark. I've already commented on the poll. Yes I have an opinion. And yes it's different to yours What a crazy notion that is. Thanks for your input though.
Hey you say you don't work for ZOS, ok no problem. Either way it cannot be proven.If you did work for ZOS of course you wouldn't openly claim so and officially wouldn't be allowed to post like that... but anyone can open a forum account.
It's not personal at all, I'm not attacking you in any way in stating that. I'm stating that your post raises an alarm and made me think you may work for ZOS. I thought this because of the two points I mentioned, being the bias post and a false point of view. If you do not work for ZOS, then you are not really thinking this through. Why would crown sales have anything to do with driving up prices of crown items, that have zero production costs?
The prices for mounts alone went up month by month and there was not a crown sale in that whole period.
Why would you NOT want a crown sale? That seems suspicious to me. That suspicion is based wholly on you your post and has nothing to do with you personally.
can you prove that you don't work for a games company that is competing with zos, further can you prove that you have not been paid by said company to come to this forum and trash zos's business model?
well, can you ?
Nope, I cannot... What's your point?
you questioned the integrity of the person you were responding to in my quote... i thought that was lame, so now i am questioning your integrity.
that's my point.pc eu eso+
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MacCait✭✭✭✭✭
✭jedtb16_ESO wrote: »jedtb16_ESO wrote: »CelestialSlayer wrote: »OP, this post is ludicrous and not worth voting on.
You say the reason you are "holding this poll is because someone the other day raised a good point about how flooding the market with cheap crowns just causes inflationary pricing and devalues the crowns themselves and from another angle actually devalue the value of the monthly subscription for ESO plus members"
First of all, that's not even true. So your poll is based on a complete fabrication, a false point.
ZOS causes inflation in prices, no one else! IF we were talking about the type of product that involved production costs, then and only then you might, kinda, possibly, have a point... but these are digital products. There is NO production cost involved. The programmers and designers all receive a salary and there are NO overheads involving any production materials. So ZOS gets 100% profit from every single sale. Whether ZOS sells a product for 50 crowns or 13,000 crowns, they make 100% profit. So the whole reason behind your poll is completly illusionary.
Secondly, your 2 options for 'yes they should continue to sell crowns on sale...', give no option other than to agree with your illusionary point of view. One option is 'yes because I dont subscribe...', and the other is 'yes because I don't care...' Therfore, your poll is bias. You needed a YES, BECAUSE I DISAGREE, YOUR POINT IS INVALID.
Crowns should go on sale because the items sold on the crown store are incredibly overpriced to begin with and have become aimed at whales in the community who have masses of disposable income. Many players have a family, a mortgage, many bills to cover, and therefore little disposable income. These players cannot afford to spend 13,000 crowns on a digital home in a limited 4-day period. 13,000 crowns is about £65-70, which is a ridiculous amount of money for a digital cosmetic.
Going back a few years, the cost of a mount was just around 2000 crowns... but then it rapidly creeped up in price to 3000, 4000, and then 5000, and even 5500. The forums were busy discussing the outrageous raise in price It had nothing to do with crowns going on sale. It was ZOS marketing, testing how far they could push players for the most profit.
It has absolutely nothing to do with crown sales and everything to do with corporate greed, continually pussing the boundaries on how much players will spend on cosmetics, and trying to make the most profit.
The fact that you or anytone else would suggest it has to do with crown sales raises an alarm and makes me think you actually work for ZOS.
What a ridiculous end to your point. I'm sure ZOS employee's are not allowed to post on the forums. I know where i work we aren't allowed and it is only dedicated personnel who are allowed. You were doing quite well until you finished on a needlesly personal remark. I've already commented on the poll. Yes I have an opinion. And yes it's different to yours What a crazy notion that is. Thanks for your input though.
Hey you say you don't work for ZOS, ok no problem. Either way it cannot be proven.If you did work for ZOS of course you wouldn't openly claim so and officially wouldn't be allowed to post like that... but anyone can open a forum account.
It's not personal at all, I'm not attacking you in any way in stating that. I'm stating that your post raises an alarm and made me think you may work for ZOS. I thought this because of the two points I mentioned, being the bias post and a false point of view. If you do not work for ZOS, then you are not really thinking this through. Why would crown sales have anything to do with driving up prices of crown items, that have zero production costs?
The prices for mounts alone went up month by month and there was not a crown sale in that whole period.
Why would you NOT want a crown sale? That seems suspicious to me. That suspicion is based wholly on you your post and has nothing to do with you personally.
can you prove that you don't work for a games company that is competing with zos, further can you prove that you have not been paid by said company to come to this forum and trash zos's business model?
well, can you ?
Nope, I cannot... What's your point?
you questioned the integrity of the person you were responding to in my quote... i thought that was lame, so now i am questioning your integrity.
that's my point.
Ok sooo your point was just ***-for tat, ...you-did-this-so-i'm-doing-that...
My points where that:
A: I said it was not personal (not a persoanl attack)
B: That the notion that someone may think that is not ridiculous.
You seem to have misconstrued my saying that "it makes me think that..." as the actual statement YOU WORK FOR ZOS.
I had already clarified what I had said.
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✭✭I wasnt bothered either wayjedtb16_ESO wrote: »jedtb16_ESO wrote: »CelestialSlayer wrote: »OP, this post is ludicrous and not worth voting on.
You say the reason you are "holding this poll is because someone the other day raised a good point about how flooding the market with cheap crowns just causes inflationary pricing and devalues the crowns themselves and from another angle actually devalue the value of the monthly subscription for ESO plus members"
First of all, that's not even true. So your poll is based on a complete fabrication, a false point.
ZOS causes inflation in prices, no one else! IF we were talking about the type of product that involved production costs, then and only then you might, kinda, possibly, have a point... but these are digital products. There is NO production cost involved. The programmers and designers all receive a salary and there are NO overheads involving any production materials. So ZOS gets 100% profit from every single sale. Whether ZOS sells a product for 50 crowns or 13,000 crowns, they make 100% profit. So the whole reason behind your poll is completly illusionary.
Secondly, your 2 options for 'yes they should continue to sell crowns on sale...', give no option other than to agree with your illusionary point of view. One option is 'yes because I dont subscribe...', and the other is 'yes because I don't care...' Therfore, your poll is bias. You needed a YES, BECAUSE I DISAGREE, YOUR POINT IS INVALID.
Crowns should go on sale because the items sold on the crown store are incredibly overpriced to begin with and have become aimed at whales in the community who have masses of disposable income. Many players have a family, a mortgage, many bills to cover, and therefore little disposable income. These players cannot afford to spend 13,000 crowns on a digital home in a limited 4-day period. 13,000 crowns is about £65-70, which is a ridiculous amount of money for a digital cosmetic.
Going back a few years, the cost of a mount was just around 2000 crowns... but then it rapidly creeped up in price to 3000, 4000, and then 5000, and even 5500. The forums were busy discussing the outrageous raise in price It had nothing to do with crowns going on sale. It was ZOS marketing, testing how far they could push players for the most profit.
It has absolutely nothing to do with crown sales and everything to do with corporate greed, continually pussing the boundaries on how much players will spend on cosmetics, and trying to make the most profit.
The fact that you or anytone else would suggest it has to do with crown sales raises an alarm and makes me think you actually work for ZOS.
What a ridiculous end to your point. I'm sure ZOS employee's are not allowed to post on the forums. I know where i work we aren't allowed and it is only dedicated personnel who are allowed. You were doing quite well until you finished on a needlesly personal remark. I've already commented on the poll. Yes I have an opinion. And yes it's different to yours What a crazy notion that is. Thanks for your input though.
Hey you say you don't work for ZOS, ok no problem. Either way it cannot be proven.If you did work for ZOS of course you wouldn't openly claim so and officially wouldn't be allowed to post like that... but anyone can open a forum account.
It's not personal at all, I'm not attacking you in any way in stating that. I'm stating that your post raises an alarm and made me think you may work for ZOS. I thought this because of the two points I mentioned, being the bias post and a false point of view. If you do not work for ZOS, then you are not really thinking this through. Why would crown sales have anything to do with driving up prices of crown items, that have zero production costs?
The prices for mounts alone went up month by month and there was not a crown sale in that whole period.
Why would you NOT want a crown sale? That seems suspicious to me. That suspicion is based wholly on you your post and has nothing to do with you personally.
can you prove that you don't work for a games company that is competing with zos, further can you prove that you have not been paid by said company to come to this forum and trash zos's business model?
well, can you ?
Nope, I cannot... What's your point?
you questioned the integrity of the person you were responding to in my quote... i thought that was lame, so now i am questioning your integrity.
that's my point.
Ok sooo your point was just ***-for tat, ...you-did-this-so-i'm-doing-that...
My points where that:
A: I said it was not personal (not a persoanl attack)
B: That the notion that someone may think that is not ridiculous.
You seem to have misconstrued my saying that "it makes me think that..." as the actual statement YOU WORK FOR ZOS.
I had already clarified what I had said.
my point is that you need not have said it at all, hence no need to clarify.pc eu eso+
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✭✭OtherI think an occasional sale on Crowns is fine, but the problem is that some players refuse to buy crowns at regular price and only buy them on sale, and when they do, they buy in bulk. So, some players have large amounts of crowns with less money spent on them. I think this has led to an inflation in Crown Store prices, which in turn, causes players to continue to wait until sales to buy Crowns. And, I'm not knocking anyone buying Crowns on sale. I certainly do, but I also sub and have purchased Crowns at full price. And I know that the budget of players varies, so sales are important.
I like that they've begun offering flash sales of items in the CS. The recent one for Pet Day was nice. Also, they've occasionally just put one item, recently the Nordic Knot Doublet or whatever, for 50% off. These are nice savings for players, with the added effect that they slowly reduce players' Crowns surplus.
I do get a little tired of players posting - when's the next Crown sale? Many expected a Crown sale for ESO's anniversary. I think twice a year is enough. Around the holidays and perhaps around the launch of the new chapter. Any more, and yes, CS prices will continue to rise and we'll see even more ginormous and expensive homes for sale in an effort to drain accounts of Crowns in order to generate additional Crown purchases.
TL:DR - Crown sales are fine, but too many could lead to CS price inflation. Regular discounts on CS items is a great way to stretch a player's Crowns.