Pve balance idea !!! A way to make all classes wanted.

Ihatenightblades

One thing i come to realize is that there will never be 100% balance in dps across all classes. Its just impossible and if all classes did hit the same it would be boring.

But how bout from now on adding content that is more ideal for certain classes or a class with a skill/passive that helps a tough fight.

For example this is done with vmaw. You need a dk with a good mag pool to chain in ads. Whether its a mag or stam doesnt matter what matters is that a dragonknight is very helpful and unique in this fight.

Mag sorcs, mag blade, stam sorc , stam dk and stamplar are all great in dps and im sure will always have a spot in raid. ( Stam sorcs jus made it this patch )

But for magplar magwarden stam warden mag dk these classes are blacklisted from leaderboard runs. And you cant blame guilds for doing this theres almost no need for them in trials.

I think making content thats doable on every class is important and shouldnt change. But if these trials had certain mechanics to them that made these classes useful it would bring change for the better.

Like something other than a dk tank or templar healer.

Kanar

Everyone has silver leash now so we can finally get rid of those pesky DKs from maw.

Ihatenightblades

Those pesky dks hit 65k dps in raids. Nobody wants them gone lol it was just a example of how important a class skill can be

ayu_fever

i have tried a “meta build” DK, and it turned out to be my least favorite and least played character.
it is SO BORING, but that isnt the meta build itself.
it is because DKs are just not fun to play.

i make my own builds with each of the 5 classes and have more fun than silly meta nonsense that came from a bunch of kids on you tube who need to get a real job and pay taxes and contribute to society.

everyone rolls their eyes when they see my nord stamina templar, but she always delivers victory in tanky glory.
my ice warden is the most fun i have ever had on ESO.

experiment and have FUN!!!
dont treat the game like a job and think you “have to” use this or that to play your role correctly.
it really isnt that serious.

Ihatenightblades

ayu_fever wrote: »

i have tried a “meta build” DK, and it turned out to be my least favorite and least played character.
it is SO BORING, but that isnt the meta build itself.
it is because DKs are just not fun to play.

i make my own builds with each of the 5 classes and have more fun than silly meta nonsense that came from a bunch of kids on you tube who need to get a real job and pay taxes and contribute to society.

everyone rolls their eyes when they see my nord stamina templar, but she always delivers victory in tanky glory.
my ice warden is the most fun i have ever had on ESO.

experiment and have FUN!!!
dont treat the game like a job and think you “have to” use this or that to play your role correctly.
it really isnt that serious.

Nobody is saying dont have fun i can care less what people run in dungeons and even craglorn trials idc or if im in a pug group i can also care less as its expected some wont be as experienced as othere.

But theres nothing wrong with using the meta for most efficient tactical approach ( meta ) especially if you enjoy competing in leader boards with other guilds that you are friends with to brag to em for fun and all that. Leaderboards arent for everyone i agree but it would be nice for your ice warden to actually contribute dps instead of a useless passive which does little to no help in pve ( cold snare )

And btw i got a great paying job I pay taxes and all my bills myself and i still manage to have a social life and go for leaderboards so don't limit yourself bud always push yourself to the limit

Guarlet

ayu_fever wrote: »

i make my own builds with each of the 5 classes and have more fun than silly meta nonsense that came from a bunch of kids on you tube who need to get a real job and pay taxes and contribute to society

Wow those assumptions.

Are you okay, dude? Are you even listening to yourself? Next you'll be ranting about those damn millennials and their damn avocado toast.

WakeYourGhost

Best way to make all classes Balanced and Wanted
Don’t play with Tripple-Elite-ultrameta-munchkin kiddies.
Drop the min-max ijits quick when they trip over a rock and die just to turn around and call everyone else Trash for their own failures.

My raid teams just want fundamental performance and general fun. It’s good not running with metaknights who have the practical skills of someone who got their first build off the Internet and got all their CPs in The Triangle... Huh, it’s almost like that doesn’t actually help you play good.

Avran_Sylt

@Kanar

But now DK's can run both a Mag+Stam pull for lowby dungeons and pull in a larger amount of adds before running out of resources. Not entirely relevant in end-game content, but still a difference.

Ihatenightblades

WakeYourGhost wrote: »

Best way to make all classes Balanced and Wanted
Don’t play with Tripple-Elite-ultrameta-munchkin kiddies.
Drop the min-max ijits quick when they trip over a rock and die just to turn around and call everyone else Trash for their own failures.

My raid teams just want fundamental performance and general fun. It’s good not running with metaknights who have the practical skills of someone who got their first build off the Internet and got all their CPs in The Triangle... Huh, it’s almost like that doesn’t actually help you play good.

So you're saying players who go for leaderboards and actually end up on top of leaderboards are just posers and die all the time?

Sorry bud wake up. Im in a guild of 24 people and you arent allowed to run trials unless you can pull 38k dps with mag with apprentice and 40k with stam. If you arent hitting those numbers we dont take you. Nothing personal against you theres other guilds for you but this one here got vas+2 and hof hm done with some great teamates who are awesome people.

Like i said you can be a elite and still not be a ***. Its usually players like you who are more toxic and actually demand stuff like " i dnt want no meta in here" attitude. Who asked you and why would u care if they arent bothering you? My guess is you been kicked plenty times in the past by some *** elites so you come to threads like this to express your anger.

Lighten up buddy maybe one day you can get 100k+ vas score with "non meta" xD good luck

Camb0Sl1ce

I don't know how it would work or how it could be done, but maybe if for example a magplars puncturing sweeps or the magdks whip could apply a unique buff or debuff for the group that only they have access to. right now a dk tank can cover engulfing flames and minor sorcery from a templar healer or stamplar.

usmcjdking

Mag DK will not be allotted a melee spot until CC and control capabilities are desired beyond the capabilities of a tank & an offtank. They are in a position where the two things they do well are eclipsed by other builds - for damage melee stam just puts out more, for control/cc/debuff a tank or offtank can provide the same utility to little/no cost to the raids damage output with a trivial loss to their tanking capabilities.

Magplar will not be allotted a melee spot until healing springs is gutted, to be blatantly honest although VAS HM having the healers and fights spread out has made them reasonably viable (still outperformed by Funnel spam). The strife nerf was a move in the right direction but still, not enough. Their aoe healing capability is straight up non-desireable because this game still has a giant issue with overhealing. Adding minor lifesteal to purifying light & maybe a magic damage amp to the class would be a move in the right direction.

Werewolf is complete garbage. 300 ult for a decent synergy and a guarantee that you are out of stam if you want to reach decent numbers.

TL;DR - explicit tanking in this game is too low effort, lets tanks do too much nullifying one of the Mag DKs biggest strengths. AOE healing is too high for magplar's side heals to be useful. WW has not evolved at all with the game