Question about Orsinium

Neoealth

I am quite a new player, my main character is a Altmer sorc. My question is basically this, lorewise, how much sense does it make me suddenly dropping everything I am doing and running off to Wrothgar to help the Orc folk rebuild their city? I mean after all my people are at war with the faction they are part off. I want to experience the dlc but not if it does not make any sense. I am strange like that. If you could come up for any reason lorewise why it would make sense I would be happy.

If not, I think I might have to roll a Covenant character.

Neoealth

I forgot to mention I have completed the main story quests, but not yet finished the alliance stuff yet.

Turelus

When I did this as a Pact character I head RP'd I was doing it for intel on the orcs and to create divisions in the Covenant if I could.

Basically make the orcs great again in order to make them think more about breaking away from DC. It's not a perfect system but it worked for me.

I also believe some of the stuff about the story focuses on why it's not directly tied to DC but I don't remember as it was long ago.

Neoealth

Turelus wrote: »

When I did this as a Pact character I head RP'd I was doing it for intel on the orcs and to create divisions in the Covenant if I could.

Basically make the orcs great again in order to make them think more about breaking away from DC. It's not a perfect system but it worked for me.

I also believe some of the stuff about the story focuses on why it's not directly tied to DC but I don't remember as it was long ago.

Yes, I understand what you mean by head rp lol. I was thinking of something along those lines as well, or spying for the domination. But I was just wondering if there was anything in the story which would also makes sense me being there. Without giving any spoilers away I suppose.

Thanks for your comment.

Robo_Hobo

You can ask the recruiter why they don't just ask for help from the covenant, and the response is basically, the Bretons and Redguards destroyed Orsinium in the first place, so they don't allow Breton or Redguard armies in Wrothgar, so they need to ask for help from individuals, and are willing to look past their alliance association so long as they themselves are.

Rp-wise, you could be doing it in the same non-affiliated not way you do Fighters and Mages guild stuff, or you could be doing it with the personal motivation of spying or creating a gap between the Orcs and the covenant, helping them out to gain their trust, to fulfill another purpose.

Noggin_the_Nog

Neoealth wrote: »

Turelus wrote: »

Yes, I understand what you mean by head rp lol. I was thinking of something along those lines as well, or spying for the domination. But I was just wondering if there was anything in the story which would also makes sense me being there. Without giving any spoilers away I suppose.

Hello

It really is a great story and well worth completing. Try not to worry about lore and just enjoy it.

One quest has you helping a Khajiiti who has been adopted by the Orcs from a baby - maybe that would help?

regards

Merlin13KAGL

If you haven't done Dark Brotherhood, you can also RP justify it because you don't wish to become a murderer.

Ask anyone how long Stuga's been looking for them. "They know."

jlmurra2

This is another reason I keep a diverse mix of characters. Some of mine would be a member of the Dark Brotherhood, and Thieves Guild, and some would not. The same goes for Orcs.

Yzalirk

Since you are an Altmer, you could role play that you are helping the Orcs because you view them more or less as uncivilized beasts and want them to stay in one area. That is if you are a more arrogant Altmer.

Alternatively, you could be helping them out of pity. They worship Malacath who used to be Trinimac and Trinimac used to be an Altmer warrior if I am not mistaken. I am not very informed about this specific lore so bare with me. Perhaps you see it as a moral obligation to help your corrupted kin and save them further misfortune.

Fleshreaper

Neoealth wrote: »

I am quite a new player, my main character is a Altmer sorc. My question is basically this, lorewise, how much sense does it make me suddenly dropping everything I am doing and running off to Wrothgar to help the Orc folk rebuild their city? I mean after all my people are at war with the faction they are part off. I want to experience the dlc but not if it does not make any sense. I am strange like that. If you could come up for any reason lorewise why it would make sense I would be happy.

If not, I think I might have to roll a Covenant character.

Well, if it's really a problem. Than I suggest you finish the main story first and then Sir Cadwell's silver and gold. Then, you will have a lore reason to be there. I mean, if you are that bothered by lore, then why the hell are you in Wrathgar before completing the story. They factions as a whole are not at war with each other outside of Cyrodiil. Yes, there are group with in the faction that are at war.

It's like you are bothered by this bit of lore but you aren't bothered enough by not finishing the story. ???

Fleshreaper

Yzalirk wrote: »

Since you are an Altmer, you could role play that you are helping the Orcs because you view them more or less as uncivilized beasts and want them to stay in one area. That is if you are a more arrogant Altmer.

Alternatively, you could be helping them out of pity. They worship Malacath who used to be Trinimac and Trinimac used to be an Altmer warrior if I am not mistaken. I am not very informed about this specific lore so bare with me. Perhaps you see it as a moral obligation to help your corrupted kin and save them further misfortune.

If you finish the story then you will realize that you just saved Nirn. One would think with a feat like that, faction squabbling would be beneath one of such importance. After all, your main goal is to save and protect Nirn, not just one faction. If one faction falls, then other other two will surely follow.

And if you are still hung up on the my faction wouldn't do that for another faction. I'm sure, your character made promises to the other faction's leaders before the assault on Cold Harbor. I guess, you are just paying back that favor.

lardvader

Can't provide you any good reasons lore wise, but I highly recommend making a DC character (if needed) to play Orsinium.

To this date still my favorite DLC/chapter/expansion - been back there during the event and just got reminded why I love this zone so much

Neoealth

Fleshreaper wrote: »

Neoealth wrote: »

I am quite a new player, my main character is a Altmer sorc. My question is basically this, lorewise, how much sense does it make me suddenly dropping everything I am doing and running off to Wrothgar to help the Orc folk rebuild their city? I mean after all my people are at war with the faction they are part off. I want to experience the dlc but not if it does not make any sense. I am strange like that. If you could come up for any reason lorewise why it would make sense I would be happy.

If not, I think I might have to roll a Covenant character.

Well, if it's really a problem. Than I suggest you finish the main story first and then Sir Cadwell's silver and gold. Then, you will have a lore reason to be there. I mean, if you are that bothered by lore, then why the hell are you in Wrathgar before completing the story. They factions as a whole are not at war with each other outside of Cyrodiil. Yes, there are group with in the faction that are at war.

It's like you are bothered by this bit of lore but you aren't bothered enough by not finishing the story. ???

I have finished the main story. I said so in my second post.

I started questing in Orsinium now, rp'ing that I under orders to gather info about the city. And also to set up links to the mage guild in the city.

Now if only the servers were not crashing every few hours...

Neoealth

Robo_Hobo wrote: »

You can ask the recruiter why they don't just ask for help from the covenant, and the response is basically, the Bretons and Redguards destroyed Orsinium in the first place, so they don't allow Breton or Redguard armies in Wrothgar, so they need to ask for help from individuals, and are willing to look past their alliance association so long as they themselves are.

Rp-wise, you could be doing it in the same non-affiliated not way you do Fighters and Mages guild stuff, or you could be doing it with the personal motivation of spying or creating a gap between the Orcs and the covenant, helping them out to gain their trust, to fulfill another purpose.

Yeah I noticed that, makes sense. Throughout history they have been causing the Orcs to re settle. Understandably they are not keen on having their "allies" snooping around their new city.

SydneyGrey

You could role play as a spy, I suppose.

Beardimus

the zone isn't to do with alliance war tho, its its own storyline. so if you have compleed your main quest its no difference to Cadwells Gold.

Do your alliance questline, then go I would say - fells right that way