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"How To" Series - Explaining NB Combos

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Hey everyone!

Here's a little video series I've recently started. I aim to go over all the combos/tricks I've come across over the years & hopefully some newer players (and some experienced ones as well!) can find these useful :smile:

I might do these for other classes as well (though I've got far less to share for them) if people are interested.


"Asylum Snipe"
https://youtu.be/ssKsNe7wV7o

"Cloak Heavy Stun"
https://youtu.be/DVDPUbNzYFU

"Sneak & Cloak - Stealthing/Restealthing Explained"
https://youtu.be/6W2ej-sCj7U

"Tactician Stun"
Coming soon(tm).


Let me know if you have any questions/feedback or want me to make a video of some other combo you've seen ^^
Edited by DDuke on April 16, 2018 7:49PM
  • Aedaryl
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    This is very good.

    I hope nooblades will not watch it, they don't need to know :trollface:
  • thedude33
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    Looking forward to the stealthing restealth video. Many times I see a good NB in the middle of a zerg jumping out and into stealth at will. Killing people and getting back into stealth no problems.

    For me, I get unstealthed all the time. I shoot someone from afar and get the attention of the enemy. I stealth, but a second later all of a sudden im not stealthed. Never understood that.
  • Knootewoot
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    thedude33 wrote: »
    Looking forward to the stealthing restealth video. Many times I see a good NB in the middle of a zerg jumping out and into stealth at will. Killing people and getting back into stealth no problems.

    For me, I get unstealthed all the time. I shoot someone from afar and get the attention of the enemy. I stealth, but a second later all of a sudden im not stealthed. Never understood that.

    Well, in your case someone popped probably a detect potion. In the first case someone didn't.

    I have the same and get detected constant if I start my attack in a zerg. But sometimes i can just be middle in a zerg, kill someone and just hide and nothing happens.
    Also sometimes an invisibility potion helps.
    ٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶
    "I am a nightblade. Blending the disciplines of the stealthy agent and subtle wizard, I move unseen and undetected, foil locks and traps, and teleport to safety when threatened, or strike like a viper from ambush. The College of Illusion hides me and fuddles or pacifies my opponents. The College of Mysticism detects my object, reflects and dispels enemy spells, and makes good my escape. The key to a nightblade's success is avoidance, by spell or by stealth; with these skills, all things are possible."
  • ascan7
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    Can i ask the add ons you are using?
  • DDuke
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    thedude33 wrote: »
    Looking forward to the stealthing restealth video. Many times I see a good NB in the middle of a zerg jumping out and into stealth at will. Killing people and getting back into stealth no problems.

    For me, I get unstealthed all the time. I shoot someone from afar and get the attention of the enemy. I stealth, but a second later all of a sudden im not stealthed. Never understood that.

    Yeah, there's a lot of things that can prevent you from stealthing (i.e. having a DoT ticking on target, being within detection radius, certain buggy abilities like Degeneration etc), I'll try to go over as many as possible when I make the video.
    ascan7 wrote: »
    Can i ask the add ons you are using?

    Frames: http://www.esoui.com/downloads/info1611-FoundryTacticalCombatFTC-DB.html
    Buffs/Debuffs: http://www.esoui.com/downloads/info655-Srendarr-AuraBuffDebuffTracker.html
  • Brutusmax1mus
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    If you need clips of tactician stun i have tons.
  • Zabulus
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    Thx for thèse vidéos.
    Waiting for thé others
  • bongtokin420insd16
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    Excited for these.
    Kaz_Wastelander PS4NA
  • Datthaw
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    You should show some of the meteor combos. I used entropy>meteor>fear>bow for a long time. Plus the magdk meteor>fossilize>whip combo. As sure if other classes have them as I don't play them.

    Edit when I went back I realized this was "NB" combos
    Edited by Datthaw on April 9, 2018 10:55AM
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    DDuke wrote: »
    thedude33 wrote: »
    Looking forward to the stealthing restealth video. Many times I see a good NB in the middle of a zerg jumping out and into stealth at will. Killing people and getting back into stealth no problems.

    For me, I get unstealthed all the time. I shoot someone from afar and get the attention of the enemy. I stealth, but a second later all of a sudden im not stealthed. Never understood that.

    Yeah, there's a lot of things that can prevent you from stealthing (i.e. having a DoT ticking on target, being within detection radius, certain buggy abilities like Degeneration etc), I'll try to go over as many as possible when I make the video.

    So does Degeneration break cloak on its own DoTs? (And does Soul Trap as well?)
  • ascan7
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    DDuke wrote: »

    Which add ons is the one that let you see the charging of your heavy attack?
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    Datthaw wrote: »
    You should show some of the meteor combos. I used entropy>meteor>fear>bow for a long time. Plus the magdk meteor>fossilize>whip combo. As sure if other classes have them as I don't play them.

    Edit when I went back I realized this was "NB" combos

    Good ideas, I'll make videos for those as well when I can :smile:
    Avran_Sylt wrote: »
    DDuke wrote: »
    thedude33 wrote: »
    Looking forward to the stealthing restealth video. Many times I see a good NB in the middle of a zerg jumping out and into stealth at will. Killing people and getting back into stealth no problems.

    For me, I get unstealthed all the time. I shoot someone from afar and get the attention of the enemy. I stealth, but a second later all of a sudden im not stealthed. Never understood that.

    Yeah, there's a lot of things that can prevent you from stealthing (i.e. having a DoT ticking on target, being within detection radius, certain buggy abilities like Degeneration etc), I'll try to go over as many as possible when I make the video.

    So does Degeneration break cloak on its own DoTs? (And does Soul Trap as well?)

    I just tested those and they work consistently with other DoTs, i.e. they don't get you stuck in combat, but they do take you out of sneak every time they tick. The cloak bugs with those abilities have been fixed (afaik).
    ascan7 wrote: »
    DDuke wrote: »

    Which add ons is the one that let you see the charging of your heavy attack?

    That's called Miat's Cast Icon: http://www.esoui.com/downloads/info1807-MiatsCastIcon.html
    Edited by DDuke on April 10, 2018 6:47PM
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    Aedaryl wrote: »
    This is very good.

    I hope nooblades will not watch it, they don't need to know :trollface:

    Not so much the nooblades, but the ones who are just slightly underperforming.
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    DDuke wrote: »
    thedude33 wrote: »
    Looking forward to the stealthing restealth video. Many times I see a good NB in the middle of a zerg jumping out and into stealth at will. Killing people and getting back into stealth no problems.

    For me, I get unstealthed all the time. I shoot someone from afar and get the attention of the enemy. I stealth, but a second later all of a sudden im not stealthed. Never understood that.

    Yeah, there's a lot of things that can prevent you from stealthing (i.e. having a DoT ticking on target, being within detection radius, certain buggy abilities like Degeneration etc), I'll try to go over as many as possible when I make the video.
    ascan7 wrote: »
    Can i ask the add ons you are using?

    Frames: http://www.esoui.com/downloads/info1611-FoundryTacticalCombatFTC-DB.html
    Buffs/Debuffs: http://www.esoui.com/downloads/info655-Srendarr-AuraBuffDebuffTracker.html

    I think that is it. Dot from Snipe or dot from weapon proc would likely do that?

    So maybe change to the physical attack snipe so no dot ...and just use direct damage procs from weapons ...no poisons? Maybe that will solve the problem.
  • Rohamad_Ali
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    Great videos :+1:
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    thedude33 wrote: »
    DDuke wrote: »
    thedude33 wrote: »
    Looking forward to the stealthing restealth video. Many times I see a good NB in the middle of a zerg jumping out and into stealth at will. Killing people and getting back into stealth no problems.

    For me, I get unstealthed all the time. I shoot someone from afar and get the attention of the enemy. I stealth, but a second later all of a sudden im not stealthed. Never understood that.

    Yeah, there's a lot of things that can prevent you from stealthing (i.e. having a DoT ticking on target, being within detection radius, certain buggy abilities like Degeneration etc), I'll try to go over as many as possible when I make the video.
    ascan7 wrote: »
    Can i ask the add ons you are using?

    Frames: http://www.esoui.com/downloads/info1611-FoundryTacticalCombatFTC-DB.html
    Buffs/Debuffs: http://www.esoui.com/downloads/info655-Srendarr-AuraBuffDebuffTracker.html

    I think that is it. Dot from Snipe or dot from weapon proc would likely do that?

    So maybe change to the physical attack snipe so no dot ...and just use direct damage procs from weapons ...no poisons? Maybe that will solve the problem.

    Right, so basically there's a 5s timer before you can restealth after dealing any DoT damage (i.e. after last DoT tick). Also if you've dealt DoT damage to the target shortly before (i.e. before combat drops completely), then direct damage also triggers this cooldown.

    When dealing direct damage there is no cooldown on restealthing, you can do so immediately as long as you aren't within detection radius.


    As for taking damage it's a bit more complicated: there's no cooldown on restealth but any instance of damage will pull you out of stealth. Also, after taking DoT damage any direct damage you deal will prevent restealthing for 5 seconds (much like with DoTs).

    I'll have some examples in the video (just started working on it).
    Edited by DDuke on April 11, 2018 7:49PM
  • OGLezard
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    What's that heavy attack addon?
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    DDuke wrote: »
    Datthaw wrote: »
    You should show some of the meteor combos. I used entropy>meteor>fear>bow for a long time. Plus the magdk meteor>fossilize>whip combo. As sure if other classes have them as I don't play them.

    Edit when I went back I realized this was "NB" combos

    Good ideas, I'll make videos for those as well when I can :smile:
    Avran_Sylt wrote: »
    DDuke wrote: »
    thedude33 wrote: »
    Looking forward to the stealthing restealth video. Many times I see a good NB in the middle of a zerg jumping out and into stealth at will. Killing people and getting back into stealth no problems.

    For me, I get unstealthed all the time. I shoot someone from afar and get the attention of the enemy. I stealth, but a second later all of a sudden im not stealthed. Never understood that.

    Yeah, there's a lot of things that can prevent you from stealthing (i.e. having a DoT ticking on target, being within detection radius, certain buggy abilities like Degeneration etc), I'll try to go over as many as possible when I make the video.

    So does Degeneration break cloak on its own DoTs? (And does Soul Trap as well?)

    I just tested those and they work consistently with other DoTs, i.e. they don't get you stuck in combat, but they do take you out of sneak every time they tick. The cloak bugs with those abilities have been fixed (afaik).
    ascan7 wrote: »
    DDuke wrote: »

    Which add ons is the one that let you see the charging of your heavy attack?

    That's called Miat's Cast Icon: http://www.esoui.com/downloads/info1807-MiatsCastIcon.html

    @OGLezard you should really read all of the posts in the discussion before posting, as it was mentioned in the quoted post.

    It’s called Miat’s Cast Icon and there was even a link provided.
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    Tigeracer wrote: »
    DDuke wrote: »
    Datthaw wrote: »
    You should show some of the meteor combos. I used entropy>meteor>fear>bow for a long time. Plus the magdk meteor>fossilize>whip combo. As sure if other classes have them as I don't play them.

    Edit when I went back I realized this was "NB" combos

    Good ideas, I'll make videos for those as well when I can :smile:
    Avran_Sylt wrote: »
    DDuke wrote: »
    thedude33 wrote: »
    Looking forward to the stealthing restealth video. Many times I see a good NB in the middle of a zerg jumping out and into stealth at will. Killing people and getting back into stealth no problems.

    For me, I get unstealthed all the time. I shoot someone from afar and get the attention of the enemy. I stealth, but a second later all of a sudden im not stealthed. Never understood that.

    Yeah, there's a lot of things that can prevent you from stealthing (i.e. having a DoT ticking on target, being within detection radius, certain buggy abilities like Degeneration etc), I'll try to go over as many as possible when I make the video.

    So does Degeneration break cloak on its own DoTs? (And does Soul Trap as well?)

    I just tested those and they work consistently with other DoTs, i.e. they don't get you stuck in combat, but they do take you out of sneak every time they tick. The cloak bugs with those abilities have been fixed (afaik).
    ascan7 wrote: »
    DDuke wrote: »

    Which add ons is the one that let you see the charging of your heavy attack?

    That's called Miat's Cast Icon: http://www.esoui.com/downloads/info1807-MiatsCastIcon.html

    @OGLezard you should really read all of the posts in the discussion before posting, as it was mentioned in the quoted post.

    It’s called Miat’s Cast Icon and there was even a link provided.

    @Tigeracer when I wrote that I thought I hit submit. It wasn't until i was on lunch at work i realized i didn't to which i hit submit hastily. At the point in which I wrote that no one asked. Thanks for assuming I didn't read though :)
  • Tigeracer
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    @OGLezard

    My apologies if that came off as rude, I do understand that sometimes a post can be missed, it’s just annoying seeing people ask the same things that have already been answered. That’s what I get for spending too much time on the forums
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    Tigeracer wrote: »
    @OGLezard

    My apologies if that came off as rude, I do understand that sometimes a post can be missed, it’s just annoying seeing people ask the same things that have already been answered. That’s what I get for spending too much time on the forums

    Lol all good :)
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    Ive always liked your content @DDuke , after all, youre what inspired me to go from playing only a magsorc to now main a nb:)

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  • DDuke
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    New video out, explains how stealth/restealthing works in ESO.

    Ever wondered why you keep getting revealed while sneaking?
    Why you're stuck in combat and unable to go back into sneak?

    I hope this video can answer some of those questions.

    https://youtu.be/6W2ej-sCj7U
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