Mag builds class advantage

ForTheEmpire

Since almost all class abilities cost Magic , Can it be said that all mag builds have the advantage of being able to cast more class abilities? Does it not ruin the balance?

jlmurra2

Most weapons skills cost stamina. I believe that is intended to create balance.

Minno

ForTheEmpire wrote: »

Since almost all class abilities cost Magic , Can it be said that all mag builds have the advantage of being able to cast more class abilities? Does it not ruin the balance?

We don't have cheap class skills. That's why they refuse to assist with Templar/DK sustain via cost reduction on base class abilities.

Stamina however has 20-21% reductions on the weapon lines but uses stamina to block/dodge so it balances out.

DeadlyRecluse

ForTheEmpire wrote: »

Since almost all class abilities cost Magic , Can it be said that all mag builds have the advantage of being able to cast more class abilities? Does it not ruin the balance?

4x weapons use stamina, 2x weapons use magicka. Stamina classes have more options in weapon skill choice, magicka builds get more options in class skill choice.

Seraphayel

DeadlyRecluse wrote: »

ForTheEmpire wrote: »

Since almost all class abilities cost Magic , Can it be said that all mag builds have the advantage of being able to cast more class abilities? Does it not ruin the balance?

4x weapons use stamina, 2x weapons use magicka. Stamina classes have more options in weapon skill choice, magicka builds get more options in class skill choice.

For Magicka DPS there is just one weapon. For Stamina there are three. That's a massive difference and I don't like it at all. Why am I forced to use a Destro Staff as Magicka DPS?

ForTheEmpire

DeadlyRecluse wrote: »

ForTheEmpire wrote: »

Since almost all class abilities cost Magic , Can it be said that all mag builds have the advantage of being able to cast more class abilities? Does it not ruin the balance?

4x weapons use stamina, 2x weapons use magicka. Stamina classes have more options in weapon skill choice, magicka builds get more options in class skill choice.

More options mean more skill points , While Class abilities are often very useful and worth the skill points, For example I rarely spent any skill points on Destruction stuff for my Breton Magplar as there are enough damaging class abilities

Odnoc

If it were imbalanced everyone would play mag build.

griffkhalifa

Seraphayel wrote: »

DeadlyRecluse wrote: »

ForTheEmpire wrote: »

Since almost all class abilities cost Magic , Can it be said that all mag builds have the advantage of being able to cast more class abilities? Does it not ruin the balance?

4x weapons use stamina, 2x weapons use magicka. Stamina classes have more options in weapon skill choice, magicka builds get more options in class skill choice.

For Magicka DPS there is just one weapon. For Stamina there are three. That's a massive difference and I don't like it at all. Why am I forced to use a Destro Staff as Magicka DPS?

You're not. You also get resto staffs which help a lot with survivability.

I'm curious which other weapon you think Mag DPS needs?

itscompton

griffkhalifa wrote: »

Seraphayel wrote: »

DeadlyRecluse wrote: »

ForTheEmpire wrote: »

Since almost all class abilities cost Magic , Can it be said that all mag builds have the advantage of being able to cast more class abilities? Does it not ruin the balance?

4x weapons use stamina, 2x weapons use magicka. Stamina classes have more options in weapon skill choice, magicka builds get more options in class skill choice.

For Magicka DPS there is just one weapon. For Stamina there are three. That's a massive difference and I don't like it at all. Why am I forced to use a Destro Staff as Magicka DPS?

You're not. You also get resto staffs which help a lot with survivability.

I'm curious which other weapon you think Mag DPS needs?

Templar and DK are magic classes with melee spammables and need a magic weapon line designed to synergize with thier need to be at close range.

Oreyn_Bearclaw

You could say that, you can say anything, but stamina is stronger in the current meta for most things. Other than pure healing, stamina wins at both sustained and burst damage, as well as, resource management and survival.

badmojo

itscompton wrote: »

griffkhalifa wrote: »

Seraphayel wrote: »

DeadlyRecluse wrote: »

ForTheEmpire wrote: »

Since almost all class abilities cost Magic , Can it be said that all mag builds have the advantage of being able to cast more class abilities? Does it not ruin the balance?

4x weapons use stamina, 2x weapons use magicka. Stamina classes have more options in weapon skill choice, magicka builds get more options in class skill choice.

For Magicka DPS there is just one weapon. For Stamina there are three. That's a massive difference and I don't like it at all. Why am I forced to use a Destro Staff as Magicka DPS?

You're not. You also get resto staffs which help a lot with survivability.

I'm curious which other weapon you think Mag DPS needs?

Templar and DK are magic classes with melee spammables and need a magic weapon line designed to synergize with thier need to be at close range.

Half the destro line is close range... clench, wall of elements, and impulse arent much use at range.

Stopnaggin

Seraphayel wrote: »

DeadlyRecluse wrote: »

ForTheEmpire wrote: »

Since almost all class abilities cost Magic , Can it be said that all mag builds have the advantage of being able to cast more class abilities? Does it not ruin the balance?

4x weapons use stamina, 2x weapons use magicka. Stamina classes have more options in weapon skill choice, magicka builds get more options in class skill choice.

For Magicka DPS there is just one weapon. For Stamina there are three. That's a massive difference and I don't like it at all. Why am I forced to use a Destro Staff as Magicka DPS?

Because we don't have spell crafting. Yet.

Seraphayel

griffkhalifa wrote: »

Seraphayel wrote: »

DeadlyRecluse wrote: »

ForTheEmpire wrote: »

Since almost all class abilities cost Magic , Can it be said that all mag builds have the advantage of being able to cast more class abilities? Does it not ruin the balance?

4x weapons use stamina, 2x weapons use magicka. Stamina classes have more options in weapon skill choice, magicka builds get more options in class skill choice.

For Magicka DPS there is just one weapon. For Stamina there are three. That's a massive difference and I don't like it at all. Why am I forced to use a Destro Staff as Magicka DPS?

You're not. You also get resto staffs which help a lot with survivability.

I'm curious which other weapon you think Mag DPS needs?

I am? There's no other option. I need to use either Destro or Resto (which offers nothing for DPS) to restore Magicka while attacking. Those dual wield builds are nice on paper but still rely on a staff.

Skander

Be greatful you can use spells with a stamina cost. If this would have been an rpg, you wound't be able to

Grabmoore

Seraphayel wrote: »

griffkhalifa wrote: »

Seraphayel wrote: »

DeadlyRecluse wrote: »

ForTheEmpire wrote: »

Since almost all class abilities cost Magic , Can it be said that all mag builds have the advantage of being able to cast more class abilities? Does it not ruin the balance?

4x weapons use stamina, 2x weapons use magicka. Stamina classes have more options in weapon skill choice, magicka builds get more options in class skill choice.

For Magicka DPS there is just one weapon. For Stamina there are three. That's a massive difference and I don't like it at all. Why am I forced to use a Destro Staff as Magicka DPS?

You're not. You also get resto staffs which help a lot with survivability.

I'm curious which other weapon you think Mag DPS needs?

I am? There's no other option. I need to use either Destro or Resto (which offers nothing for DPS) to restore Magicka while attacking. Those dual wield builds are nice on paper but still rely on a staff.

Wrong. I run a light attack rotation on my MagPlar with a 5/5/2 setup and I don't run out of magicka.