Wall of Elements and Enchantments

Berenhir

Hey everybody,

I did some testing for PvP today and found out that Wall of Elements does not trigger the Weapon Damage Enchantment. I didn't test it with other "self buffing" enchantments but it seems to only trigger those enchantments that damage or debuff an enemy, not buff yourself.

Furthermore, the dualwield offhand is never triggered by Wall of Elements at all, no matter if it has an enemy status debuff like Crusher or a pure damage glyph on it.

Has this always been working like that? Do weapon abilities only ever trigger the main hand and only enemy debuffs/damage effects?

Avran_Sylt

Yep.

Berserk enchant only procs off of light and heavy attacks.

Off-hand enchant cannot proc off of any ability (anymore). It can only proc off of light or heavy attacks.

It's a "feature"

getemshauna

Blockade can proc only debuffs and dmg enchants on targets, not buffs on you, as you said OP.

getemshauna

Avran_Sylt wrote: »

Yep.

Berserk enchant only procs off of light and heavy attacks.

Off-hand enchant cannot proc off of any ability (anymore). It can only proc off of light or heavy attacks.

It's a "feature"

I believe that offhand enchant procs from abilities when mainhand enchant is on cooldown. Not sure tho. Anyway don't think thats true since OP said it didnt work for him.

That's actually very interesting topic. Could you @Berenhir summarize all your observations? Thanks in advance.

Berenhir

gethemshauna wrote: »

Avran_Sylt wrote: »

Yep.

Berserk enchant only procs off of light and heavy attacks.

Off-hand enchant cannot proc off of any ability (anymore). It can only proc off of light or heavy attacks.

It's a "feature"

I believe that offhand enchant procs from abilities when mainhand enchant is on cooldown. Not sure tho. Anyway don't think thats true since OP said it didnt work for him.

That's actually very interesting topic. Could you @Berenhir summarize all your observations? Thanks in advance.

I did a test with a dual wield / destro nightblade.
Destro was decisive with weapon damage enchantment, dual wield nirnhoned (main - shock damage glyph) and sharpened (offhand - oblivion damage).

• Casting WoE on the backbar did not trigger the weapon damage enchantment.
• When I switched to the front bar, only the main hand enchantment (shock) fired.
• When I switched the weapons (mainhand <-> offhand) on the front bar, only the oblivion enchant fired.
• When I switched the offhand sword to one with a crusher enchantment (decrease resistances), still only the main hand enchantment (shock) fired.
• When I then switched the weapons, only the berserker enchantment got applied.
• When two targets were in my WoE, the enchantment was always applied to the enemy closest to the casting point of WoE - i moved towards the other enemy after the cast, but it was always applied to the one closest to the casting point.
• When I do a light or heavy attack on the staff bar, the weapon damage enchantment fires.
• When I do a heavy attack on the dual wield bar, the attack will fire either the one or the other enchantment, but not both.
• When I light attack, the dw fires whatever enchantment is on the weapon that does the strike. There is no shared cooldown of damage procs (at least for shock / oblivion). So two consecutive light attacks can trigger first the shock, then the oblivion enchantment.

getemshauna

Berenhir wrote: »

gethemshauna wrote: »

Avran_Sylt wrote: »

Yep.

Berserk enchant only procs off of light and heavy attacks.

Off-hand enchant cannot proc off of any ability (anymore). It can only proc off of light or heavy attacks.

It's a "feature"

I believe that offhand enchant procs from abilities when mainhand enchant is on cooldown. Not sure tho. Anyway don't think thats true since OP said it didnt work for him.

That's actually very interesting topic. Could you @Berenhir summarize all your observations? Thanks in advance.

I did a test with a dual wield / destro nightblade.
Destro was decisive with weapon damage enchantment, dual wield nirnhoned (main - shock damage glyph) and sharpened (offhand - oblivion damage).

• Casting WoE on the backbar did not trigger the weapon damage enchantment.
• When I switched to the front bar, only the main hand enchantment (shock) fired.
• When I switched the weapons (mainhand <-> offhand) on the front bar, only the oblivion enchant fired.
• When I switched the offhand sword to one with a crusher enchantment (decrease resistances), still only the main hand enchantment (shock) fired.
• When I then switched the weapons, only the berserker enchantment got applied.
• When two targets were in my WoE, the enchantment was always applied to the enemy closest to the casting point of WoE - i moved towards the other enemy after the cast, but it was always applied to the one closest to the casting point.
• When I do a light or heavy attack on the staff bar, the weapon damage enchantment fires.
• When I do a heavy attack on the dual wield bar, the attack will fire either the one or the other enchantment, but not both.
• When I light attack, the dw fires whatever enchantment is on the weapon that does the strike. There is no shared cooldown of damage procs (at least for shock / oblivion). So two consecutive light attacks can trigger first the shock, then the oblivion enchantment.

Appreciated.

brandonv516

gethemshauna wrote: »

Blockade can proc only debuffs and dmg enchants on targets, not buffs on you, as you said OP.

Great so then buffs (i.e. beserker) should proc when you use healing skills from the resto line on yourself right? No? That would be too OP and make too much sense so I guess not.