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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/668861

Most Disappointing Cash Shop I've Ever Seen

Mavloc
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$40 for potions and some exp scrolls.
Exchange it all for gems and I'm left with sub 100 gems, not even enough to buy a single item.
Items being rotated out constantly.
1 time exclusive *** items that will never be released again. The most I've ever seen sold by a company
Cant even purchase pre-order bonuses that were available previously, as a separate digital pack.
$40 for an expansion pack that I get for free with ESO plus, But I need to buy this pack to get these pre-order items
But I can't not have ESO Plus, even though I own all the expansion packs, because I need the Resource Bag.
Items that are sold completely destroy in-game immersion. Everyone is lit up like glow sticks and even their mounts are on fire like this is some how normal to see.

I resubscribed because I enjoy TES lore, and I figured maybe I can get some roleplaying out of the community.
But it sure as *** is impossible to do even that when I need to drop thousands of dollars to get a single mount.
What the hell happened to unlocking stuff via playing the actual game? How did such a great franchise get *** out into this disgusting excuse for a game?
How can players excuse this as a company trying to make money? Have you played other games? This isn't a company trying to make money.
This is extortion and playing on the addiction of gamblers.

Hate this business model.

[edit for bashing]
Edited by ZOS_CoriJ on April 4, 2018 1:47AM
  • redspecter23
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    If this is the most disgusting cash shop you've seen in any game, you're either lying of have only ever played one game.
  • Sigtric
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    I mean I hate crates but you're lying, there are many items you can buy for 100gems or less.

    Stormproof: Vibeke - 50 EP mDragonknight | Savi Dreloth - 50 EP Magsorc | Sadi Dreloth - 50 EP Magblade | Sigtric Stormaxe - 50 EP Stamsorc | Valora Dreloth - 50 EP Magplar | Sigtric the Unbearable 50 EP Stam Warden
    Scrub: Chews-on-Beavers - 50 EP DK Tank | Vera the Wild - 50 EP magicka Warden | Sigtric the Axe - 50 EP Dragonknight Crafter | Sigtric the Blade - 50 EP Lost Nightblade | Sigtric the Savage - 50 EP magicka Templar | Vibeka Shadowblade - 50 Ep Stealthy Ganky Nightblade |

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  • Mavloc
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    If this is the most disgusting cash shop you've seen in any game, you're either lying of have only ever played one game.

    This cash shop makes SWTOR look reasonable
  • jaws343
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    You don't need a specific mount. You don't need anything from the crown store. You want those things.
  • dannymcgr81b14_ESO
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    I actually got the Sorrel Mount as a leveling up reward. i'm not sure if that is normal or if rewards are random.
  • Mavloc
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    jaws343 wrote: »
    You don't need a specific mount. You don't need anything from the crown store. You want those things.

    Where in my post did I say I needed this. I dont need to play this game. I don't need to do anything except breath, eat and drink water.
    Edited by Mavloc on April 3, 2018 8:24PM
  • redspecter23
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    Mavloc wrote: »
    jaws343 wrote: »
    You don't need a specific mount. You don't need anything from the crown store. You want those things.

    Where in my post did I say I needed this

    You seem pretty upset you didn't get it so it was assumed you felt you needed it.
  • Mavloc
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    Mavloc wrote: »
    jaws343 wrote: »
    You don't need a specific mount. You don't need anything from the crown store. You want those things.

    Where in my post did I say I needed this

    You seem pretty upset you didn't get it so it was assumed you felt you needed it.

    Didn't get what?
  • Cadbury
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    I actually got the Sorrel Mount as a leveling up reward. i'm not sure if that is normal or if rewards are random.

    You get the Sorrel Horse at level 10 as part of the new Level Up rewards

    Also, IBTL
    "If a person is truly desirous of something, perhaps being set on fire does not seem so bad."
  • redspecter23
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    Mavloc wrote: »
    Mavloc wrote: »
    jaws343 wrote: »
    You don't need a specific mount. You don't need anything from the crown store. You want those things.

    Where in my post did I say I needed this

    You seem pretty upset you didn't get it so it was assumed you felt you needed it.

    Didn't get what?

    An item for your 100 gems? I really don't know what you're looking for here other than an outlet to vent frustration. Can I get you a Snickers?
  • NordSwordnBoard
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    TLDR; Gambled and feels buyer's remorse.
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  • jaws343
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    Mavloc wrote: »
    jaws343 wrote: »
    You don't need a specific mount. You don't need anything from the crown store. You want those things.

    Where in my post did I say I needed this. I dont need to play this game. I don't need to do anything except breath, eat and drink water.


    VVV
    Mavloc wrote: »

    I resubscribed because I enjoy TES lore, and I figured maybe I can get some roleplaying out of the community.
    But it sure as *** is impossible to do even that when I need to drop thousands of dollars to get a single mount.
    What the hell happened to unlocking stuff via playing the actual game? How did such a great franchise get *** out into this disgusting excuse for a game?
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    And also, if you didn't think you needed to do these things to enjoy the game, you wouldn't have a reason to come to the forums and complain about something unimportant and unnecessary.
  • DeadlyRecluse
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    Mavloc wrote: »
    I resubscribed because I enjoy TES lore, and I figured maybe I can get some roleplaying out of the community.
    But it sure as *** is impossible to do even that when I need to drop thousands of dollars to get a single mount.

    So...it's impossible to roleplay without a fancy mount?
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  • Anotherone773
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    So you dont play many MMOs then? Wait until you play one where the material to upgrade weapons cost prem currency and only has X chance of upgrading and the higher the upgrade the less X becomes.


    Your post basically says "buyers(gamblers) remorse". You wanted a radiant apex mount, you spent money thinking you would get one, you got nothing of value to you and dont even have enough to buy one of the gem mounts. So you rant on the forums because you didnt win.

    The house never loses and for every 1 winner there are dozens, hundreds, maybe even thousands of losers. The losers pay for the winners winnings, the house always gets it cut first. Thats how gambling works.
  • Anotherone773
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    Mavloc wrote: »
    I resubscribed because I enjoy TES lore, and I figured maybe I can get some roleplaying out of the community.
    But it sure as *** is impossible to do even that when I need to drop thousands of dollars to get a single mount.

    So...it's impossible to roleplay without a fancy mount?

    maybe they were (planning on) RPing the emperor or a wealthy merchant. Now they will have to RP a Bosmer living in The Mittens because they gambled their Snugpod away.
    Edited by Anotherone773 on April 3, 2018 9:09PM
  • DRAGON_KILLER_HUNTER
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    Just dont buy it then who forces you?

    Crates support the game.
  • ajcorbell
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    There is nothing in the store you NEED.
  • Turelus
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    Mavloc wrote: »
    If this is the most disgusting cash shop you've seen in any game, you're either lying of have only ever played one game.

    This cash shop makes SWTOR look reasonable
    lolz... The only thing SWTOR has to redeem itself is that you can trade items. Otherwise as amazing as the story is in that game, the F2P model is garbage and the crates trash.

    Also Battlefront II, Google it. :tongue:
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  • SecretJoy
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    Wow....yeah there are definitely worse cash shops out there.

    ZoS at least keeps it to cosmetics and things you can actually earn in game.

    There are quite a few games out there that are P2W because of their cash shops.

    I love buying crates, but I go into knowing that it's not a guarantee so I don't ever get upset.
  • dodgehopper_ESO
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    Its the nature of the marketplace these days. There's a reason I plan on ESO being my last MMO ever. The whole industry (including videogames in general) have disappointed me and I fully intend to find other sources of diversion when ESO croaks. I'm still having fun with the game now but I'm burned by the entire videogaming industry. They're trolling us with the kinds of nonsense you see from EA (and other games) nowadays.
    US/AD - Dodge Hopper - Vet Imperial Templar | US/AD - Goj-ei-Raj - Vet Argonian Nightblade
    US/AD - Arondonimo - Vet Altmer Sorcerer | US/AD - Azumarax - Vet Dunmer Dragon Knight
    US/AD - Barkan al-Sheharesh - Vet Redguard Dragon Knight | US/AD - Aelus Vortavoriil - Vet Altmer Templar
    US/AD - Shirari Qa'Dar - Vet Khajiit Nightblade | US/AD - Ndvari Mzunchvolenthumz - Vet Bosmer Nightblade
    US/EP - Yngmar - Vet Nord Dragon Knight | US/EP - Reloth Ur Fyr - Vet Dunmer Sorcerer
    US/DC - Muiredeach - Vet Breton Sorcerer | US/DC - Nachtrabe - Vet Orc Nightblade
    EU/DC - Dragol gro-Unglak - Vet Orc Dragon Knight | EU/DC - Targan al-Barkan - Vet Redguard Templar
    EU/DC - Wuthmir - Vet Nord Sorcerer | EU/DC - Kosh Ragotoro - Vet Khajiit Nightblade
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  • Mureel
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    If this is the most disgusting cash shop you've seen in any game, you're either lying of have only ever played one game.

    This.
  • Mureel
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    Mavloc wrote: »
    Mavloc wrote: »
    jaws343 wrote: »
    You don't need a specific mount. You don't need anything from the crown store. You want those things.

    Where in my post did I say I needed this

    You seem pretty upset you didn't get it so it was assumed you felt you needed it.

    Didn't get what?

    An item for your 100 gems? I really don't know what you're looking for here other than an outlet to vent frustration. Can I get you a Snickers?

    GREAT! Now I want a snickers.
  • Marabornwingrion
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    I also don't really like ZOS marketing practices and how the whole Crown Store currently looks... But I think you're a little bit overreacting.

    I advice you to read how cash shop looks in BDO for example, before you make a choice that ESO have the worst one.
  • Yzalirk
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    Is this thread serious?

    You do not need any potions from crates or the store. Sure they provide some leg-up but you would be better of crafting them as it is free and they offer superior benefits.

    I assume you never looked at Crate items at all because of your assumption. There are plenty of things to buy with 100 gems. It depends on what interests you.

    Items often rotate or retire to make room for new things. They usually return in Crown Crates unfortunately. Also, why keep items in the store if they sell poorly?

    The whole point of Pre-Order bonuses are that they are exclusive bonuses. They are usually cosmetic items anyways so does it really matter?

    ESO+ does not give you access to expansions. You have to buy those separately Unless you mean DLC. For a monthly $15 to have access to that with other benefits, why complain?

    ESO is an MMO so why does there need to be immersion? It would be bland and boring if everyone had drabby colored armor and the same mounts.

    That has got to be the most asinine reason to have an ESO+ subscription - because you like the lore. I like the lore too but I subscribe when I can because I like to support the game and the benefits are very generous.

    You can buy mounts for like $20. To say it costs thousands is absurd. You also get one for free when you hit Level 10.

    You actually can unlock things from playing the game though... especially since you said you have ESO+...
    Mavloc wrote: »
    How did such a great franchise get *** out into this disgusting excuse for a game?
    How can players excuse this as a company trying to make money? Have you played other games? This isn't a company trying to make money.
    This is extortion and playing on the addiction of gamblers.

    This is my favorite part. This alone makes your argument void.

    You have ESO+ so you must care about the game to some degree. And by paying for it, you are supporting the game.

    [minor edit for quote]
    Edited by ZOS_CoriJ on April 4, 2018 1:53AM
  • MerlinPendragon
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    The Complaint sounds a bit snowflakey.

    The store is fine. Just don't gamble on crates.
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  • Aeslief
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    I saw the title of this thread and thought it would be about Trion Worlds.
  • ArtCommissions
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    Aeslief wrote: »
    I saw the title of this thread and thought it would be about Trion Worlds.

    Agree!!!
  • Reverb
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    I've seen much more disgusting cash shops. Much. ESO doesn't even crack the top 5.
    Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. ~Friedrich Nietzsche
  • ArtCommissions
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    Mavloc wrote: »
    $40 for potions and some exp scrolls.
    Exchange it all for gems and I'm left with sub 100 gems, not even enough to buy a single item.
    Items being rotated out constantly.
    1 time exclusive *** items that will never be released again. The most I've ever seen sold by a company
    Cant even purchase pre-order bonuses that were available previously, as a separate digital pack.
    $40 for an expansion pack that I get for free with ESO plus, But I need to buy this pack to get these pre-order items
    But I can't not have ESO Plus, even though I own all the expansion packs, because I need the Resource Bag.
    Items that are sold completely destroy in-game immersion. Everyone is lit up like glow sticks and even their mounts are on fire like this is some how normal to see.

    I resubscribed because I enjoy TES lore, and I figured maybe I can get some roleplaying out of the community.
    But it sure as *** is impossible to do even that when I need to drop thousands of dollars to get a single mount.
    What the hell happened to unlocking stuff via playing the actual game? How did such a great franchise get *** out into this disgusting excuse for a game?
    How can players excuse this as a company trying to make money? Have you played other games? This isn't a company trying to make money.
    This is extortion and playing on the addiction of gamblers.

    I believe you are trying to get the radiant apex mount, which has an average of 0.25% chance of pulling from crates. That is a fancy mount but definitely has no impact on gameplay whatsoever whether you have it or not.

    From your post, it seems like you really wanted it. Which then, I don’t understand why you are complaining about how these mounts lit up and destroy immersion.

    But don’t stop trying! Go slow and get a crate at a time. The next crate may give you that elusive radiant mount!! Make it your lucky day, today!

    Signed, Pacrooti.

    [minor edit for quote]
    Edited by ZOS_CoriJ on April 4, 2018 1:52AM
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    Just ignore the crown store. Problem solved.
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