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TTC client gives a serious virus warning - anyone else ?
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Jarryzzt✭✭✭✭
If the government and military don't trust it, should you?
That line makes me sad. It really does. I mean, I'm not disappointed, of course, because my expectations of humanity are already low enough. Still.
On topic. Kaspersky has consistently been in the "four plus star" pack of non-freeware antivirus (ditto Norton, McAffee, et cetera). See (https://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2372364,00.asp) for example. However this does not make it the "right" antivirus for a specific user or machine since every one of these programs and manufacturers has its own quirks, strange interactions with various programs, and outright bugs and vulnerabilities even, not to mention UI considerations. Still, simply what the OP has posted isn't enough to definitively say it's an AV issue.
What I would suggest is that the OP:
a) Update AV definitions. [Or if you really want to get cute, reinstall the client.]
b) Reinstall TTC using Minion - I am hopeful that this eliminates at least some possibility for file modification.
c) Run the AV and see if the same result occurs.
If so, then either TTC is infected (thank you ZOS for not building key functionality into the game yourself!), or there is some interaction thing that cannot be resolved without using a different AV (or no AV at all) - at least until the next definitions update. For reference, I myself have had no AV issues with any ESO add-ons (installed through Minion) - but I did have to turn off TTC after the last big update, so my case is not directly applicable.1 -
AlienatedGoat✭✭✭✭✭
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No, you are definitely wrong.MLGProPlayer wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »
Indeed.
Not only that, but several US agencies such as the FBI, NSA and CIA all strongly advise you do not use it. The entire US government phased out the use of Kaspersky and outright banned the use of the software on government and military computers in December 2017.
If the government and military don't trust it, should you?
The government and military don't trust it because they think the Russians will use it for espionage purposes. If you aren't a government worker or a member of the military, what do you have to fear? The UK government said it was perfectly safe for home users and non-governental organizations.
It's legitimately one of the best performing AVs on the market and probably the least intrusive. I don't see any reason not to use it as a home user. My alternatives are all inferior products.
Your only real alternative is Windows Defender, but that's really not good enough if you do a lot of dodgy things on the internet.
Um, I think you're dead wrong here. If the entirety of the US government and military, as well as many of its intelligence agencies don't use it and strongly advise the citizens don't either, that's good enough reason.
Russian hackers aren't just looking for government or military secrets. They are more than happy to settle for your financial and personal information.
No, I am right:The UK Government has been advised by the National Cyber Security Centre to remove any Russian products from all highly sensitive systems classified as secret or above.
We've made the precautionary decision to no longer offer Kaspersky software to new users, however there's nothing to suggest customers need to stop using Kaspersky.
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/12/03/uk_government_bans_russian_anti_virus_software/
And you're putting your faith in the words of the NSA, which has stolen more personal data from you than any other organization in the world.
Kaspersky isn't prone to "hackers". It can just gather information from your computer, as can any anti-virus software. There is nothing to suggest they are going to steal your financial information though (they aren't any more likely to do it than any other AV company). They would lose their entire client base overnight if that happened. Trading a billion dollar brand for stealing some kid's financial information which the bank can immediately freeze doesn't seem like a good business decision.
If you work with sensitive data in a NATO country, you probably shouldn't be using Kaspersky. If you do anything else, you're fine.
Nobody is going to stop you from believing in conspiracy theories if you want to. But please don't claim that your deluded fears are facts.
It's not a conspiracy theory. The story was broken in Bloomberg, and was considered credible enough for action by the United States government and military. That isn't a conspiracy theory. They had actionable intelligence.
Nobody is going to stop you from believing otherwise, and that's your right. If you want to take the risk, that's on you.
But don't spread misinformation that obscures the truth from others.PC-NA Goat - Bleat Bleat Baaaa0 -
Linaleah✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I stay away from anything that requires me to run an executable BEFORE logging into the game. That's how accounts get compromised. Keyloggers.
And yes, Kaspersky is crap for anti-virus.
you can start TTC after you start the game, just need to reloaUI in order for it to update the listings, or start it before you press play on your choice of character, but the point is, you can start TTC after you do actual logging into your account and it will still work. it doesn't require you to start it first.dirty worthless casual.
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MLGProPlayer✭✭✭✭✭
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No, you are definitely wrong.MLGProPlayer wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »
Indeed.
Not only that, but several US agencies such as the FBI, NSA and CIA all strongly advise you do not use it. The entire US government phased out the use of Kaspersky and outright banned the use of the software on government and military computers in December 2017.
If the government and military don't trust it, should you?
The government and military don't trust it because they think the Russians will use it for espionage purposes. If you aren't a government worker or a member of the military, what do you have to fear? The UK government said it was perfectly safe for home users and non-governental organizations.
It's legitimately one of the best performing AVs on the market and probably the least intrusive. I don't see any reason not to use it as a home user. My alternatives are all inferior products.
Your only real alternative is Windows Defender, but that's really not good enough if you do a lot of dodgy things on the internet.
Um, I think you're dead wrong here. If the entirety of the US government and military, as well as many of its intelligence agencies don't use it and strongly advise the citizens don't either, that's good enough reason.
Russian hackers aren't just looking for government or military secrets. They are more than happy to settle for your financial and personal information.
No, I am right:The UK Government has been advised by the National Cyber Security Centre to remove any Russian products from all highly sensitive systems classified as secret or above.
We've made the precautionary decision to no longer offer Kaspersky software to new users, however there's nothing to suggest customers need to stop using Kaspersky.
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/12/03/uk_government_bans_russian_anti_virus_software/
And you're putting your faith in the words of the NSA, which has stolen more personal data from you than any other organization in the world.
Kaspersky isn't prone to "hackers". It can just gather information from your computer, as can any anti-virus software. There is nothing to suggest they are going to steal your financial information though (they aren't any more likely to do it than any other AV company). They would lose their entire client base overnight if that happened. Trading a billion dollar brand for stealing some kid's financial information which the bank can immediately freeze doesn't seem like a good business decision.
If you work with sensitive data in a NATO country, you probably shouldn't be using Kaspersky. If you do anything else, you're fine.
Nobody is going to stop you from believing in conspiracy theories if you want to. But please don't claim that your deluded fears are facts.
It's not a conspiracy theory. The story was broken in Bloomberg, and was considered credible enough for action by the United States government and military. That isn't a conspiracy theory. They had actionable intelligence.
Nobody is going to stop you from believing otherwise, and that's your right. If you want to take the risk, that's on you.
But don't spread misinformation that obscures the truth from others.
Did you read the entire story from Bloomberg (not just the article title)? Did you read the quote I shared? Because it doesn't sound like you did any of that.
Kaspersky is a potential threat to NATO government/military intelligence. That's all anyone has reported. Believing anything else is a conspiracy theory since it's completely unfounded. You've drawn the conclusion that Kaspersky will steal your financial information because they are a threat to government/military intelligence (despite not one source reporting this as a threat). The UK government said there is zero threat to home and business users (not that you need a government to tell you what you can and cannot do). Common sense also tells you that there is zero threat as any AV can spy on you. It isn't a feature unique to Kaspersky.
So rather than parroting your own fears, please share some facts/logical arguments if you want to have a debate.Edited by MLGProPlayer on April 3, 2018 12:07AM0 -
AlienatedGoat✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭MLGProPlayer wrote: »
No, you are definitely wrong.MLGProPlayer wrote: »MLGProPlayer wrote: »
Indeed.
Not only that, but several US agencies such as the FBI, NSA and CIA all strongly advise you do not use it. The entire US government phased out the use of Kaspersky and outright banned the use of the software on government and military computers in December 2017.
If the government and military don't trust it, should you?
The government and military don't trust it because they think the Russians will use it for espionage purposes. If you aren't a government worker or a member of the military, what do you have to fear? The UK government said it was perfectly safe for home users and non-governental organizations.
It's legitimately one of the best performing AVs on the market and probably the least intrusive. I don't see any reason not to use it as a home user. My alternatives are all inferior products.
Your only real alternative is Windows Defender, but that's really not good enough if you do a lot of dodgy things on the internet.
Um, I think you're dead wrong here. If the entirety of the US government and military, as well as many of its intelligence agencies don't use it and strongly advise the citizens don't either, that's good enough reason.
Russian hackers aren't just looking for government or military secrets. They are more than happy to settle for your financial and personal information.
No, I am right:The UK Government has been advised by the National Cyber Security Centre to remove any Russian products from all highly sensitive systems classified as secret or above.
We've made the precautionary decision to no longer offer Kaspersky software to new users, however there's nothing to suggest customers need to stop using Kaspersky.
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/12/03/uk_government_bans_russian_anti_virus_software/
And you're putting your faith in the words of the NSA, which has stolen more personal data from you than any other organization in the world.
Kaspersky isn't prone to "hackers". It can just gather information from your computer, as can any anti-virus software. There is nothing to suggest they are going to steal your financial information though (they aren't any more likely to do it than any other AV company). They would lose their entire client base overnight if that happened. Trading a billion dollar brand for stealing some kid's financial information which the bank can immediately freeze doesn't seem like a good business decision.
If you work with sensitive data in a NATO country, you probably shouldn't be using Kaspersky. If you do anything else, you're fine.
Nobody is going to stop you from believing in conspiracy theories if you want to. But please don't claim that your deluded fears are facts.
It's not a conspiracy theory. The story was broken in Bloomberg, and was considered credible enough for action by the United States government and military. That isn't a conspiracy theory. They had actionable intelligence.
Nobody is going to stop you from believing otherwise, and that's your right. If you want to take the risk, that's on you.
But don't spread misinformation that obscures the truth from others.
Did you read the entire story from Bloomberg (not just the article title)? Did you read the quote I shared? Because it doesn't sound like you did any of that.
Kaspersky is a potential threat to NATO government/military intelligence. That's all anyone has reported. Believing anything else is a conspiracy theory since it's completely unfounded. You've drawn the conclusion that Kaspersky will steal your financial information because they are a threat to government/military intelligence (despite not one source reporting this as a threat). The UK government said there is zero threat to home and business users (not that you need a government to tell you what you can and cannot do). Common sense also tells you that there is zero threat as any AV can spy on you. It isn't a feature unique to Kaspersky.
So rather than parroting your own fears, please share some facts/logical arguments if you want to have a debate.
I've read a lot more than just the Bloomberg article. I am a journalist by trade, and I know what I'm talking about here.
Kaspersky is a Russian honeypot that is used and abused by the FSB and intelligence-connected operatives. The Russian state also operates hacker organizations and botnets. If Putin wanted to, he could aim that power directly at United States citizens, and Kaspersky would be one of the vectors. Putin already has shown this power several times since the 2016 election. Up to now it's only been misinformation and manipulation. If and when it escalates, it will be a much more direct attack.
That is the danger here. Not individual targeting (obviously). But a blanket offensive.
All of this is fact, and you can find many sources to corroborate what I've mentioned.PC-NA Goat - Bleat Bleat Baaaa0 -
woufff✭✭✭✭Again, thanks to all for your valuable comments, gives me a lot to think about...
Funnily enough there are really pro and con Kaspersky here as I can read and I think everyone has to forge his own opinion on the matter and so will I
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