Should dungeon re-queue timers be removed from group finder?

Anotherone773

With all the issues with dungeons, should the re-queue timers be removed. Reasons:
* Forms group, but doesnt jump you in. Try traveling to player, tells you instance is full. Group kicks you because you didnt make it in dungeon and they cant wait 2 minutes why you try to work around.
* Game crashes/ logs you out randomly( this happens a lot now)= you get kicked because it take 5 minutes plus to log back in. Have to wait on timer.

If dungeons worked properly, i dont have an issue with a timer. But ive actually spent more time waiting on re-queue timers because of being booted to login/crash in the last 3 days than i have spent actively queuing for dungeons. Its just ridiculous now. So should dungeon timers be removed from group finder?

Morgul667

Other

You should not get the penalty if you get kicked out of the group or crash

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

No

Trust me, when they did not have the 15 minute wait and you wanted to run a dungeon that was not one of the undaunted dailys, you would just cycle through load of people that were just looking for them. So it is worth the crashing, which sounds like your set up, I haven't had a crash in like 2 years.

Anotherone773

Yes

Morgul667 wrote: »

You should not get the penalty if you get kicked out of the group or crash

I should of added that. Yes if you voluntarily leave you should get it. As it counts down from the time you enter the dungeon. So you should spend at least 15 minutes giving it a chance. But other than that you shouldnt get it.

Skua

I thought you didn't get the penalty if you were kicked from a group. The other day we kicked someone on his request because he didn't want to do a particular dungeon and it put him immediately back into our group twice because the random dungeon finder is a troll. o-o

The only time I've had trouble with it is if the whole group has to disband because the dungeon is bugged and it doesn't fall off someone or another.

kyle.wilson

No

As for the ones that you couldn't get into because the "instance is full", you dodged a bullet. It means that someone was kicked before you, so it's probably not a group worth being in.

I've dropped a random group before, after the lead initiated a boot against a different player even prior to starting the dungeon. I was the tank, so I don't know if they ever got it done.

Anotherone773

Yes

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

Trust me, when they did not have the 15 minute wait and you wanted to run a dungeon that was not one of the undaunted dailys, you would just cycle through load of people that were just looking for them. So it is worth the crashing, which sounds like your set up, I haven't had a crash in like 2 years.

Nope, setup hasnt changed. game has gotten worse each patch. Its really bad since this festival. I dont think the servers can handle the amount of players and its causing glitches.

Skua wrote: »

I thought you didn't get the penalty if you were kicked from a group. The other day we kicked someone on his request because he didn't want to do a particular dungeon and it put him immediately back into our group twice because the random dungeon finder is a troll. o-o

The only time I've had trouble with it is if the whole group has to disband because the dungeon is bugged and it doesn't fall off someone or another.

AFAIK, a timer starts from the minute you enter. You cant queue for 15 minutes after your put in a dungeon. Only thing i can think of if it put him in your group right away is it bugged. You might not get it for specific dungeons either. I dont think i ever got a timer for selecting specific dungeons. I guess they assume if you queue for specific, then their is no reason to give a timer.

Lykanus

No but it should be shortened

It think the wait should be somewhat around 8-10minutes. Still enough that not all are cycling through their "wished" dungeon, but also not to bad if someone got kicked without proper reason.

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

No

Nope, setup hasnt changed. game has gotten worse each patch. Its really bad since this festival. I dont think the servers can handle the amount of players and its causing glitches.

Like I said, my system doesn't crash. Your system does/is, so yours is the problem. Servers have nothing to do your client crashing.

Anotherone773

Yes

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

Nope, setup hasnt changed. game has gotten worse each patch. Its really bad since this festival. I dont think the servers can handle the amount of players and its causing glitches.

Like I said, my system doesn't crash. Your system does/is, so yours is the problem. Servers have nothing to do your client crashing.

You dont understand how a client/server system works do you? The client crashes because it has bugs/ is unstable has zero to do with my system. For example some dungeons i can run all day long on a stamblade but 2 out of 3 times i run it on my healer, i crash/get booted. So your saying my PC hates healers?

If i didnt know anything about computers, id be inclined to believe you. But, i do understand computers quite well and thus know when a crash is my problem and when its not. Its definitely a client problem.

It may not be a problem for you for many many reasons, but it is for many people. Not everyone is running identical software that plays this game or even identical platforms, yet you assume because it doesnt happen to you that it cant possibly be a client/software problem that it has to be what im playing on.

Meesha1170

Yes

I would say 99.9% I've been stuck on a requeue timer it's been something out of my control or the result of someone else's actions. Not sure why I have wait so long for that so obviously "Yes", remove the redundant punitive timer.

Slick_007

No

Morgul667 wrote: »

You should not get the penalty if you get kicked out of the group or crash

so instead of quitting the group, you *** them off so they boot you and theres no timer? sure, that sounds way better. not

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

No

You dont understand how a client/server system works do you? The client crashes because it has bugs/ is unstable has zero to do with my system. For example some dungeons i can run all day long on a stamblade but 2 out of 3 times i run it on my healer, i crash/get booted. So your saying my PC hates healers?

I have an associates degree in network administration, I know how they work. I also know that your system is crashing playing the same game that my system is running pretty much flawlessly. And I have a pretty unique system, sli 970s using nividia surround triple monitors.

. It may not be a problem for you for many many reasons, but it is for many people. Not everyone is running identical software that plays this game or even identical platforms, yet you assume because it doesnt happen to you that it cant possibly be a client/software problem that it has to be what im playing on.

The game is being ran on literally hundreds of thousands of different set ups and I would say that more then 95% of them run the game flawlessly. You simply need to find out what about your setup is making the game crash.

laksikus

I think you should be able to click on a reason button when you kick ppl.

If you kick someone beeing an ass or queueing wrong role, he should be locked out for 15min

But if you kick someone for crashing or not beeing able to port in, he shouldnt get a lock.

That would be possible with a simple drop down menu where everone that votekicks can check a reason

Odnoc

Yes but only until they fix crashes/crashes to login

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

You dont understand how a client/server system works do you? The client crashes because it has bugs/ is unstable has zero to do with my system. For example some dungeons i can run all day long on a stamblade but 2 out of 3 times i run it on my healer, i crash/get booted. So your saying my PC hates healers?

I have an associates degree in network administration, I know how they work. I also know that your system is crashing playing the same game that my system is running pretty much flawlessly. And I have a pretty unique system, sli 970s using nividia surround triple monitors.

. It may not be a problem for you for many many reasons, but it is for many people. Not everyone is running identical software that plays this game or even identical platforms, yet you assume because it doesnt happen to you that it cant possibly be a client/software problem that it has to be what im playing on.

The game is being ran on literally hundreds of thousands of different set ups and I would say that more then 95% of them run the game flawlessly. You simply need to find out what about your setup is making the game crash.

Funny, I’ve had crashes on my Xbox one x, if it were a setup issue, well, please tell me what the difference is between mine and the next persons because last I checked the hardware car Biggs were pretty much the same...