People/persons taunting a world boss/dolmen to break them/reset them

Armatesz

Not talking about the people that you can tell went and did something that is well above their capabilities to survive but the ones that do it on purpose, you can tell they taunt the boss, and then back up some and retaunt and just keep pulling the boss or dolmen enemies out of bounds to reset them.
Problems about people that taunt are there are some that do it with intent of doing it, versus some people not knowing the skills they are using rightly or they do bite off more than they can chew. The dolmen part however can brick a dolmen, dolmen bricking seems to be a rare thing to see.
But dolmen bricking is when someone tries to agro a certain section of enemies before the last two or so anchors can be pulled. If you are able to use all the anchors to clear it then it won't be an issue, just will be some enemies that you don't need to worry about. But it can get a dolmen stuck with some anchors not being able to be used and you get to look dumb hanging around a broken dolmen. Only solution for that I see is to leave the dolmen and come back later.

Highlor3

Happened to me in Glenumbra, 3 people doing this with Limbscather.

Waffennacht

Ugh people

phaneub17_ESO

Wonder if this is what happens when I come across a Dolmen and there's like 16 mobs standing around it. I assumed the person couldn't handle the load but since their spawn numbers is determined by how many players are there I never understood how they got that many to spawn in the first place. It's fun though blowing through them all in a few seconds, 3-5 Shock Clenches and watch all 16 of them explode is hilarious.

Storm_knight22

Armatesz wrote: »

Not talking about the people that you can tell went and did something that is well above their capabilities to survive but the ones that do it on purpose, you can tell they taunt the boss, and then back up some and retaunt and just keep pulling the boss or dolmen enemies out of bounds to reset them.
Problems about people that taunt are there are some that do it with intent of doing it, versus some people not knowing the skills they are using rightly or they do bite off more than they can chew. The dolmen part however can brick a dolmen, dolmen bricking seems to be a rare thing to see.
But dolmen bricking is when someone tries to agro a certain section of enemies before the last two or so anchors can be pulled. If you are able to use all the anchors to clear it then it won't be an issue, just will be some enemies that you don't need to worry about. But it can get a dolmen stuck with some anchors not being able to be used and you get to look dumb hanging around a broken dolmen. Only solution for that I see is to leave the dolmen and come back later.

That doesn't sound like anyone I know. Nope definitely never even heard of that. I certainly would not perform such a nefarious act! I am truly outraged by this egregious behavior. Something must be done! I propose a letter writing campaign, a white house petition as well as a march on the capital!

Armatesz

phaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Wonder if this is what happens when I come across a Dolmen and there's like 16 mobs standing around it. I assumed the person couldn't handle the load but since their spawn numbers is determined by how many players are there I never understood how they got that many to spawn in the first place. It's fun though blowing through them all in a few seconds, 3-5 Shock Clenches and watch all 16 of them explode is hilarious.

More than likely it could be someone likely bit off more than they can chew. Dolmens would have to have nothing there for that to happen and no anchors being interactable with. It is a very rare sight to see.

Ch4mpTW

Armatesz wrote: »

phaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Wonder if this is what happens when I come across a Dolmen and there's like 16 mobs standing around it. I assumed the person couldn't handle the load but since their spawn numbers is determined by how many players are there I never understood how they got that many to spawn in the first place. It's fun though blowing through them all in a few seconds, 3-5 Shock Clenches and watch all 16 of them explode is hilarious.

More than likely it could be someone likely bit off more than they can chew. Dolmens would have to have nothing there for that to happen and no anchors being interactable with. It is a very rare sight to see.

I’ve been playing the game since beta, and I don’t think I’ve ever seen the type of behavior from players that the OP describes. I’m not saying that it doesn’t happen (the player base is growing more toxic as time goes on), but rather that I personally haven’t seen it.

Actually, I don’t think I’ve ever seen a “bricked dolmen” either. I’ve seen: Chests, NPC corpses, and nodes (e.g. Ancestor Silk) that wouldn’t allow me to interact with them. So perhaps those things were “bricked”. But something like a dolmen? I can’t recall ever experiencing something like that.

Minyassa

Ugh, yet something else to have to worry about other players doing just to ruin the game for other people. I swear there's more every week. People suck.

Mattock_Romulus

Waffennacht wrote: »

Ugh people

Damn Millenials...get off my lawn!!!

Armatesz

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

Armatesz wrote: »

phaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Wonder if this is what happens when I come across a Dolmen and there's like 16 mobs standing around it. I assumed the person couldn't handle the load but since their spawn numbers is determined by how many players are there I never understood how they got that many to spawn in the first place. It's fun though blowing through them all in a few seconds, 3-5 Shock Clenches and watch all 16 of them explode is hilarious.

More than likely it could be someone likely bit off more than they can chew. Dolmens would have to have nothing there for that to happen and no anchors being interactable with. It is a very rare sight to see.

I’ve been playing the game since beta, and I don’t think I’ve ever seen the type of behavior from players that the OP describes. I’m not saying that it doesn’t happen (the player base is growing more toxic as time goes on), but rather that I personally haven’t seen it.

Actually, I don’t think I’ve ever seen a “bricked dolmen” either. I’ve seen: Chests, NPC corpses, and nodes (e.g. Ancestor Silk) that wouldn’t allow me to interact with them. So perhaps those things were “bricked”. But something like a dolmen? I can’t recall ever experiencing something like that.

First time I seen someone brick a dolmen was at king's guard dolmen in glenumbra, but only time that happened I was by myself. I've rarely heard of others bricking them, around 3 times since the year time of playing.
Most of the times when I notice someone trying to lure the boss to reset I have enough time to slot a taunt and reput the boss back in while they fight with me over trying to reset a boss. Yesterday was the first time I have ever seen more than 1 person doing it... a group of 3 were going through Vvardenfell going from boss to boss when they were down a certain percentage and try to pull boss away.
You can usually stop attacking and see what someone is doing and judge if they are biting off more than they can chew or if they are intentionally trying to reset the boss. Look at how many ads there are, how their health fluctuates and the like. Had to actually make sure they were taunting on intention to reset or not. It is far more common to find people taunt and bite off more than they can chew than the resetters. So keep an eye to make sure they are trying to troll or what.

GrumpyDuckling

The only legitimate reason I can think of for taunting and resetting a world boss would be from a tank's perspective - if they didn't have a damaging ultimate up yet then they could taunt and reset to get their ultimate up.

Why would they do that? Because of that crazy decision ZOS made where you have to do 10% of the damage on a boss to get a drop. It's awful for tanks. They can take all the damage but unless they dish out 10% they get nothing.

jssriot

I honestly don't recall ever seeing this happen in a case where it appeared intentional. I recall many cases of people fleeing at 15% health or pulling the boss out too far without realizng it.

GrumpyDuckling wrote: »

Why would they do that? Because of that crazy decision ZOS made where you have to do 10% of the damage on a boss to get a drop. It's awful for tanks. They can take all the damage but unless they dish out 10% they get nothing.

OK, but if someone's farming WBs for drops, why tf would they being doing it on a tank? And dolmen bosses don't drop anything worth doing this nonsense over, all the good loot is in the chest and you get that regardless.

Armatesz

jssriot wrote: »

I honestly don't recall ever seeing this happen in a case where it appeared intentional. I recall many cases of people fleeing at 15% health or pulling the boss out too far without realizng it.

GrumpyDuckling wrote: »

Why would they do that? Because of that crazy decision ZOS made where you have to do 10% of the damage on a boss to get a drop. It's awful for tanks. They can take all the damage but unless they dish out 10% they get nothing.

OK, but if someone's farming WBs for drops, why tf would they being doing it on a tank? And dolmen bosses don't drop anything worth doing this nonsense over, all the good loot is in the chest and you get that regardless.

I've seen a fair bit of people that do world bosses on a tank because it is their main and for some reason they are stubborn like that. I say meh.

smacx250

I'm no tank, and don't taunt, but I'll say that happening upon some player fighting a boss and joining in, and then accidentally pulling it out since I didn't know where it started from and resetting it (mostly happened in Crag), is one of the most embarrassing things that I've done - multiple times!

Armatesz

smacx250 wrote: »

I'm no tank, and don't taunt, but I'll say that happening upon some player fighting a boss and joining in, and then accidentally pulling it out since I didn't know where it started from and resetting it (mostly happened in Crag), is one of the most embarrassing things that I've done - multiple times!

But did you do it multiple times in a row? It takes a certain amount of times in a row for me to prod test to see if they are doing it intentional. 1 or 2 times maybe they made a mistake, 3 or 4 or more... check their patterns to make sure they are trying to intentionally reset their boss. Check their health drops and if they are dying alot and so forth. Tell them to knock it off first or 2nd time. First time if you can tell they are trolling but leave room for them to improve their behavior. Then if there is a 5th time in zone chat let others know of what some troll is doing so others can come and assist you against the trolls. Last one is an extremely rare one for me to do. I usually just leave and wait a bit while doing some other quests or have you before I return to the spot. Usually the trolls leave by then.

GrumpyDuckling

jssriot wrote: »

I honestly don't recall ever seeing this happen in a case where it appeared intentional. I recall many cases of people fleeing at 15% health or pulling the boss out too far without realizng it.

GrumpyDuckling wrote: »

Why would they do that? Because of that crazy decision ZOS made where you have to do 10% of the damage on a boss to get a drop. It's awful for tanks. They can take all the damage but unless they dish out 10% they get nothing.

OK, but if someone's farming WBs for drops, why tf would they being doing it on a tank? And dolmen bosses don't drop anything worth doing this nonsense over, all the good loot is in the chest and you get that regardless.

Maybe they only have a tank character?

Armatesz

GrumpyDuckling wrote: »

jssriot wrote: »

I honestly don't recall ever seeing this happen in a case where it appeared intentional. I recall many cases of people fleeing at 15% health or pulling the boss out too far without realizng it.

GrumpyDuckling wrote: »

Why would they do that? Because of that crazy decision ZOS made where you have to do 10% of the damage on a boss to get a drop. It's awful for tanks. They can take all the damage but unless they dish out 10% they get nothing.

OK, but if someone's farming WBs for drops, why tf would they being doing it on a tank? And dolmen bosses don't drop anything worth doing this nonsense over, all the good loot is in the chest and you get that regardless.

Maybe they only have a tank character?

I've talked to some and their tank is the only champion level character they have. Or they are doing multiple dailies in a zone.

smacx250

Armatesz wrote: »

smacx250 wrote: »

I'm no tank, and don't taunt, but I'll say that happening upon some player fighting a boss and joining in, and then accidentally pulling it out since I didn't know where it started from and resetting it (mostly happened in Crag), is one of the most embarrassing things that I've done - multiple times!

But did you do it multiple times in a row? It takes a certain amount of times in a row for me to prod test to see if they are doing it intentional. 1 or 2 times maybe they made a mistake, 3 or 4 or more... check their patterns to make sure they are trying to intentionally reset their boss. Check their health drops and if they are dying alot and so forth. Tell them to knock it off first or 2nd time. First time if you can tell they are trolling but leave room for them to improve their behavior. Then if there is a 5th time in zone chat let others know of what some troll is doing so others can come and assist you against the trolls. Last one is an extremely rare one for me to do. I usually just leave and wait a bit while doing some other quests or have you before I return to the spot. Usually the trolls leave by then.

No, I recall it happened once each with a few different bosses. I just hate to be the source of other's frustrations. Luckily I haven't experienced someone doing it repeatedly, and/or apparently on purpose.