Cheater

Iskras

...so, ZOS, when u ll fix it or look into this with more atention after the last pach/DLC?

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DHale

Sigh, no one knows what you are talking about.

ZOS_Mika

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Iskras

DHale wrote: »

Sigh, no one knows what you are talking about.

You speak exclusively for yourself and not for others. In time, here in this forum, in General Forum, ZOS created a specific topic on this, I remember very well, and even posted this topic. They took after and many months. But, we can probably find it if we search, it was created by ZOS itself. So the subject is not a 'secret' ... not even a 'mystery'.

Biro123

DHale wrote: »

Sigh, no one knows what you are talking about.

^^ He's right though

Reverb

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Ley

Iskras wrote: »

DHale wrote: »

Sigh, no one knows what you are talking about.

You speak exclusively for yourself and not for others. In time, here in this forum, in General Forum, ZOS created a specific topic on this, I remember very well, and even posted this topic. They took after and many months. But, we can probably find it if we search, it was created by ZOS itself. So the subject is not a 'secret' ... not even a 'mystery'.

Can confirm what @DHale said, no idea what you're talking about.

Ley

I guess you're talking about this thread: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/403888/lets-talk-about-it/p1

Context is helpful.

That being said, your other thread isn't exactly the most informative. An old time player quit because of "cheaters" so this is, i guess, proof that cheaters are getting out of control and ZOS aren't doing anything about it. Then you talk about class balance... Does that about summarize it?

Seems pretty random without any proof or examples to back anything up.

I've said this before. It is my firm belief that 99% of perceived cheating is just other players lack of understanding of game mechanics and latency/performance issues.

redspecter23

I can't believe that ZOS came into this thread to remove off topic comment and actually kept the first one. Without context, there is no substance here. I'll echo the others and say I have no clue what you're talking about as you didn't actually refer to anything.

If you're just generally saying that cheating is bad... well I suppose I agree?

VaranisArano

I find it really funny that ZOS removed my comment that said I'd said what I wanted to say in the other (closed) thread for being "off-topic."

But since you insist on me repeating myself, ZOS, here you go.

Me on the other thread: "Ultimately, there's nothing to talk about.

ZOS is the only people who can determine and punish cheating.
ZOS explicitly refuses to confirm or deny the vast majority of cheating reports to the player who made the report as a matter of policy.

So except on a player-level action of "I won't let cheaters in my guild/group/whatever and I'll report players when I see cheating or actions that look like cheating" there's nothing to discuss when ZOS says nothing as a matter policy and has no desire to alter that policy."

Elong

Please post proof.

magictucktuck

VaranisArano wrote: »

I find it really funny that ZOS removed my comment that said I'd said what I wanted to say in the other (closed) thread for being "off-topic."

But since you insist on me repeating myself, ZOS, here you go.

Me on the other thread: "Ultimately, there's nothing to talk about.

ZOS is the only people who can determine and punish cheating.
ZOS explicitly refuses to confirm or deny the vast majority of cheating reports to the player who made the report as a matter of policy.

So except on a player-level action of "I won't let cheaters in my guild/group/whatever and I'll report players when I see cheating or actions that look like cheating" there's nothing to discuss when ZOS says nothing as a matter policy and has no desire to alter that policy."

ZOS will also delete something if someone or some people start a negative discussion from the comment so to leave it would just make things continue / or confusing. or if it literally adds nothing to the conversation and they are already taking things out.

Speed_Kills

This was @Iskras April fools’ joke.

Akinos

[Edited to remove quote]

Let's ban the people that keep making these silly threads accusing everybody that beats them of cheating while we're at it.

Iskras

Elong wrote: »

Please post proof.

I just send to ZOS, sorry.

Iskras

redspecter23 wrote: »

I can't believe that ZOS came into this thread to remove off topic comment and actually kept the first one. Without context, there is no substance here. I'll echo the others and say I have no clue what you're talking about as you didn't actually refer to anything.

If you're just generally saying that cheating is bad... well I suppose I agree?

I hope, answer u question

Iskras

Ley wrote: »

I guess you're talking about this thread: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/403888/lets-talk-about-it/p1

Context is helpful.

That being said, your other thread isn't exactly the most informative. An old time player quit because of "cheaters" so this is, i guess, proof that cheaters are getting out of control and ZOS aren't doing anything about it. Then you talk about class balance... Does that about summarize it?

Seems pretty random without any proof or examples to back anything up.

I've said this before. It is my firm belief that 99% of perceived cheating is just other players lack of understanding of game mechanics and latency/performance issues.

Evidence i send JUST to ZOS, if - IF - i find something. I do not know if it is necessary - again - to post contexts - there are several, several including posts and exposed by the own ZOS in specific topic posted in General Discussions (they took after some time posted). For those who are older in the game, strange OR balancing as it is and how it is today or strange things. I quoted on another topic.

Builds with infinite resources, different skills being applied in less than half a fraction of 1 second, macros (which, honestly, I do not know if it is illegal or not, I think so), etc.

All, of course, debatable - to anyone who proposes to it.

Side B

On the other hand, when I talk about 'balance', I'm experiencing something 'unusual'. Today I started using 'reactive' (set). There are times when I can quietly tank 5, 6 even more ppls, in others, not with the same ppls. I tried this on Nikel. There are a number of factors to consider, including LAG, processing, memory, etc.

It is extremely difficult to prove anything, it is necessary to gather a lot of evidence, and, evidences, even if feasible, if they are insufficient, make any accusation 'weak' and even unfair against a particular player.

zyk

I have a solution.

Step 1: start a community fund, collect approx 20M
Step 2: buy all AvA related material from ZOS including exclusive ownership of the code
Step 3: shut down AvA
Step 4: destroy the code
Step 5: move on with our lives

ZOS_JesC

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