Single bar sets made easy.

Brutusmax1mus

April fools! Or Easter.. whichever. Both. Anyway...

I'd like to compile a list of the communities favorite single bar sets with best use practices as well. So I need your help. I'm asking that you mention your favorite front bar or back bar offensive or defensive sets and the way you use them most effectively.

Include as much information as you feel is needed to show synergies between the sets, class, race, etc.

Thanks for your help, I'll continue to update with your feedback.


Magicka Offensive front bar sets:

Magicka Offensive back bar sets:

Magicka Defensive/ sustain front bar sets:

Magicka defensive/ sustain back bar sets:

Stamina offensive front bar sets:

Stamina offensive back bar sets:

Stamina defensive/ sustain front bar sets:

Stamina defensive/ sustain back bar sets:

Maryal

A single's bar? Why should singles get their own bar ... what about a couple's bar? Personally, I prefer a juice bar.

Kartalin

Here are a few I use that I thought of immediately:

Silks of the Sun - front bar on magdk
Shroud of the Lich - back bar for magicka users
Transmutation - back bar for magicka support/healers
Akaviri Dragonguard - single bar for anyone who needs a particular ultimate cheaper/more frequently
Eternal Hunt - can be single bar (on bow) for stamblades or other stam users that lack a master bow
Mechanical Acuity - single bar so you control when it is procced
Clever Alchemist - single bar so you control when it is procced

Subversus

Kartalin wrote: »

Here are a few I use that I thought of immediately:

Silks of the Sun - front bar on magdk
Shroud of the Lich - back bar for magicka users
Transmutation - back bar for magicka support/healers
Akaviri Dragonguard - single bar for anyone who needs a particular ultimate cheaper/more frequently
Eternal Hunt - can be single bar (on bow) for stamblades or other stam users that lack a master bow
Mechanical Acuity - single bar so you control when it is procced
Clever Alchemist - single bar so you control when it is procced

Axiom is arguably better than sun for magdk imo

ToRelax

Kartalin wrote: »

Here are a few I use that I thought of immediately:

Silks of the Sun - front bar on magdk
Shroud of the Lich - back bar for magicka users
Transmutation - back bar for magicka support/healers
Akaviri Dragonguard - single bar for anyone who needs a particular ultimate cheaper/more frequently
Eternal Hunt - can be single bar (on bow) for stamblades or other stam users that lack a master bow
Mechanical Acuity - single bar so you control when it is procced
Clever Alchemist - single bar so you control when it is procced

Alchemist is used on one bar usually only because it works and you save space. There is no advantage to it like with Acuity.

Diddly_D_Potatoes

Wizard's Riposte on back bar
Sheer Venom on an execute bar
Jorvuld's guidance on a buff bar
Cowards on a run away/go fast bar
Prisoner's Rags on a regen, run away bar
Hawk's Eye on a bow bar
Kynes Kiss on a bow bar
Wilderqueen on a bow bar
Sword Singer on a 2Her bar
Sword Dancer on a DW bar
Light Speaker on a resto staff bar
Spider Cultist on a destro staff bar

There are many many more that I could not be bothered listing.

Kartalin

Subversus wrote: »

Kartalin wrote: »

Here are a few I use that I thought of immediately:

Silks of the Sun - front bar on magdk
Shroud of the Lich - back bar for magicka users
Transmutation - back bar for magicka support/healers
Akaviri Dragonguard - single bar for anyone who needs a particular ultimate cheaper/more frequently
Eternal Hunt - can be single bar (on bow) for stamblades or other stam users that lack a master bow
Mechanical Acuity - single bar so you control when it is procced
Clever Alchemist - single bar so you control when it is procced

Axiom is arguably better than sun for magdk imo

True but if you already have a crafted set Sun will work.

Aedaryl

Kartalin wrote: »

Subversus wrote: »

Kartalin wrote: »

Here are a few I use that I thought of immediately:

Silks of the Sun - front bar on magdk
Shroud of the Lich - back bar for magicka users
Transmutation - back bar for magicka support/healers
Akaviri Dragonguard - single bar for anyone who needs a particular ultimate cheaper/more frequently
Eternal Hunt - can be single bar (on bow) for stamblades or other stam users that lack a master bow
Mechanical Acuity - single bar so you control when it is procced
Clever Alchemist - single bar so you control when it is procced

Axiom is arguably better than sun for magdk imo

True but if you already have a crafted set Sun will work.

Next patch with jewlery crafting I think Shackle Breaker + Innate Axiom will be kinda BiS

Ragnarock41

Subversus wrote: »

Kartalin wrote: »

Here are a few I use that I thought of immediately:

Silks of the Sun - front bar on magdk
Shroud of the Lich - back bar for magicka users
Transmutation - back bar for magicka support/healers
Akaviri Dragonguard - single bar for anyone who needs a particular ultimate cheaper/more frequently
Eternal Hunt - can be single bar (on bow) for stamblades or other stam users that lack a master bow
Mechanical Acuity - single bar so you control when it is procced
Clever Alchemist - single bar so you control when it is procced

Axiom is arguably better than sun for magdk imo

I heard axiom was bugged from a few magDks. No proof though since I don't have the set.

Kartalin

For a time it wasn’t buffing the power lash proc of flame lash, much like it wasn’t buffing assassin’s will proc for magblades. I don’t know if that has been fixed yet.
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Adenoma

Axiom was fixed.

Brrrofski

To add to ones not already mentioned...

Spinners
Spriggans
Automaton
Netch's touch
Wardmaiden
Soulshine
Warlock
Shadow Walker
Marksman
Knight's Errand
Burning spellweave
Spell power cure
Night mother's gaze
Sunderflame
Aether/Moondancer (4th peice front is very common)

There's a LOT, depends how creative you are.

Subversus

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

Subversus wrote: »

Kartalin wrote: »

Here are a few I use that I thought of immediately:

Silks of the Sun - front bar on magdk
Shroud of the Lich - back bar for magicka users
Transmutation - back bar for magicka support/healers
Akaviri Dragonguard - single bar for anyone who needs a particular ultimate cheaper/more frequently
Eternal Hunt - can be single bar (on bow) for stamblades or other stam users that lack a master bow
Mechanical Acuity - single bar so you control when it is procced
Clever Alchemist - single bar so you control when it is procced

Axiom is arguably better than sun for magdk imo

I heard axiom was bugged from a few magDks. No proof though since I don't have the set.

I’m going to start playing magdk after my exams, and axiom is what I’ll wear. Idk if it’s bugged, but a lot of people use it and since I have literally 0 magdk knowledge I’ll just copy whatever the good guys do and go from there. I don’t think it’s bugged, but it could be easily tested I guess.

Deep_01

No mention of the "most nasty for meele range" set Caluurion's Legacy !?

Zorgon_The_Revenged

I actually thought some DK's used the juggernaut set , with a macro to cast igneous shield-swap to juggernaut bar-pop potion, the way some 30k health DK's go from 20% health to instantly full with no healers about. Must have been CE or maybe the secret "chuggernaut" build.

GreenSoup2HoT

Viper
Vicecannon
Sheer Venom

Dot based sets once proc'd work on either bar.

Minno

This thread only proves that sets that require 5pc at all times need a review and remove how they function.

For example, Daedtric Trickery starts it's cooldown first then the proc second and you don't control what procs, while wizard reposte from the same damn DLC gives minor maim 15% dmg reduction to everyone that crits you on one bar.

trickery should be giving buffs first, then letting you bar swap so you don't need the set on both bars. In fact, there was a video showing you can't even have that set with 4 body and 1 weapon on each bar otherwise the cooldown would reset each time you bar swapped lol.

ZoS should make 1-bar the focus for PVP meta moving forward, or find ways to incentivize having 5pc sets constantly on.

Checkmath

You somehow can differentiate between proc sets and stat sets. While stat sets are best when slotted both bars, because you want the stats at all time. Shacklebreaker, necropotence are examples for thar. Proc sets mostly have cooldowns, where the last bonus isnt significant between procs. Thats why we can wear the last piece only on one bar. Defensive sets like wizards riposte, buffsets like lich or damage sets like viper are examples. And then you get the sets between, mostly stat sets, where the last bonus isnt that important depending on skill bars. For example spinners doesnt affect buffs and healing. Also sets like warmaiden or even kagrenacs can belong to them.
We can describe pretty much every set like this and the list of sets is veeeery long. ^^

Minno

Checkmath wrote: »

You somehow can differentiate between proc sets and stat sets. While stat sets are best when slotted both bars, because you want the stats at all time. Shacklebreaker, necropotence are examples for thar. Proc sets mostly have cooldowns, where the last bonus isnt significant between procs. Thats why we can wear the last piece only on one bar. Defensive sets like wizards riposte, buffsets like lich or damage sets like viper are examples. And then you get the sets between, mostly stat sets, where the last bonus isnt that important depending on skill bars. For example spinners doesnt affect buffs and healing. Also sets like warmaiden or even kagrenacs can belong to them.
We can describe pretty much every set like this and the list of sets is veeeery long. ^^

good distinction!

Shackle is an example of a good stat set that requires 5pc at all times ; versatile, gives strong stats, hybrid friendly.

ToRelax

Checkmath wrote: »

You somehow can differentiate between proc sets and stat sets. While stat sets are best when slotted both bars, because you want the stats at all time. Shacklebreaker, necropotence are examples for thar. Proc sets mostly have cooldowns, where the last bonus isnt significant between procs. Thats why we can wear the last piece only on one bar. Defensive sets like wizards riposte, buffsets like lich or damage sets like viper are examples. And then you get the sets between, mostly stat sets, where the last bonus isnt that important depending on skill bars. For example spinners doesnt affect buffs and healing. Also sets like warmaiden or even kagrenacs can belong to them.
We can describe pretty much every set like this and the list of sets is veeeery long. ^^

Not quite. There are stat sets like Spinner's that can be used almost to their full potential on just one bar and proc sets like Phoenix that you really want to keep on both.
In fact, Necropotence is another example for a stat set that works pretty well on just one bar, though not as well as others. And there are proc sets like that as well, you get a lot out of Torug's on one bar for example, but it's even better on both.

Ragnarock41

Subversus wrote: »

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

Subversus wrote: »

Kartalin wrote: »

Here are a few I use that I thought of immediately:

Silks of the Sun - front bar on magdk
Shroud of the Lich - back bar for magicka users
Transmutation - back bar for magicka support/healers
Akaviri Dragonguard - single bar for anyone who needs a particular ultimate cheaper/more frequently
Eternal Hunt - can be single bar (on bow) for stamblades or other stam users that lack a master bow
Mechanical Acuity - single bar so you control when it is procced
Clever Alchemist - single bar so you control when it is procced

Axiom is arguably better than sun for magdk imo

I heard axiom was bugged from a few magDks. No proof though since I don't have the set.

I’m going to start playing magdk after my exams, and axiom is what I’ll wear. Idk if it’s bugged, but a lot of people use it and since I have literally 0 magdk knowledge I’ll just copy whatever the good guys do and go from there. I don’t think it’s bugged, but it could be easily tested I guess.

Good luck on your exams, I just had mine a week ago. On the axiom I'm very curious to hear your results with it, I have the mats and everything, I just don't want to craft it unless I hear someone with experience actually tell me its working fine.
I would test it myself but I'm too busy preparing my stamblade for solo OW atm.

TheMystid

Minno wrote: »

This thread only proves that sets that require 5pc at all times need a review and remove how they function.

For example, Daedtric Trickery starts it's cooldown first then the proc second and you don't control what procs, while wizard reposte from the same damn DLC gives minor maim 15% dmg reduction to everyone that crits you on one bar.

trickery should be giving buffs first, then letting you bar swap so you don't need the set on both bars. In fact, there was a video showing you can't even have that set with 4 body and 1 weapon on each bar otherwise the cooldown would reset each time you bar swapped lol.

ZoS should make 1-bar the focus for PVP meta moving forward, or find ways to incentivize having 5pc sets constantly on.

Daedric trickery..... AKA the Emblem of Zos' indifference towards a well designed game...

Salt apart, I would totally agree with that

Checkmath

@ToRelax
I think you didnt read my post from start to end...
Otherwise you would have seen, that exactly spinners is taken as an example of a stat set, which is used only on one bar in a lot of cases (pvp).
I wouldnt call torugs pact a procset tough...

fred4

I personally love Skooma Smuggler. I use it on the cloaking bar on magblade. It works for escape, to get out of range of Inner Light or stamsorcs quickly, or avoid them in the first place. It also works if you want to pursue enemies trying to escape, as with Concealed Weapon you move quickest when you combine cloak and Major Expedition. Double Take is too much of a magicka hog, when combined with cloak, and not viable for a prolonged chase.

The typical potions I use include detection and magicka. I don't find speed pots viable on magblade. Combined with a detect pot you can cover a lot of ground, if you want to scout an area for hidden players.

I am also currently using the set on my magplar. The idea is that Forward Momentum and speed allows you to pursue even Eternal Hunt stamblades while jabbing them.

I don't think Draugr has been mentioned yet. Same idea as Necropotence, Spinner, War Maiden, Spriggan, Viper, and so on. It adds damage to your front bar. I prefer Draugr and Necropotence to most other sets, since I usually have a heal or shield on my front bar, which also gets buffed by it.

The issue with Shacklebreaker and Trainee is that you'd lose too much of your minor stat during bar swap, if you one barred them. Same goes for regen sets, such as Amber Plasm and Bone Pirate, to a lesser degree.

Dillpat

stam:

automation
essence theif
hunt
eternal hunt
rav
vield heritance
powerful assault
spriggans
twice fanged
sword singer
cowards
invigoration
shield breaker


there are more but this is what i came up in a cyro load screen.-- take that as u will

Ragnarock41

fred4 wrote: »

I personally love Skooma Smuggler. I use it on the cloaking bar on magblade. It works for escape, to get out of range of Inner Light or stamsorcs quickly, or avoid them in the first place. It also works if you want to pursue enemies trying to escape, as with Concealed Weapon you move quickest when you combine cloak and Major Expedition. Double Take is too much of a magicka hog, when combined with cloak, and not viable for a prolonged chase.

The typical potions I use include detection and magicka. I don't find speed pots viable on magblade. Combined with a detect pot you can cover a lot of ground, if you want to scout an area for hidden players.

I am also currently using the set on my magplar. The idea is that Forward Momentum and speed allows you to pursue even Eternal Hunt stamblades while jabbing them.

I don't think Draugr has been mentioned yet. Same idea as Necropotence, Spinner, War Maiden, Spriggan, Viper, and so on. It adds damage to your front bar. I prefer Draugr and Necropotence to most other sets, since I usually have a heal or shield on my front bar, which also gets buffed by it.

The issue with Shacklebreaker and Trainee is that you'd lose too much of your minor stat during bar swap, if you one barred them. Same goes for regen sets, such as Amber Plasm and Bone Pirate, to a lesser degree.

there was a time period where I was split between draugr hulk and shacklebreaker, so I ended up using both of them.

The only issue was that I was losing shackle bonus on my 2h bar. Now that 2 handers count as 2 piece I will be able to recreate that old build again. Can't wait to run around with 50k max stam for the lols.

akray21

Won't single bar sets lose some value next patch with the 2H change (indirect nerf)? You will be able to run 5/5/2 at all times. The only reason I can see to run a single bar set now is to squeeze in a Master/MA/Asylum weapon.

Am I missing something?

Lexxypwns

akray21 wrote: »

Won't single bar sets lose some value next patch with the 2H change (indirect nerf)? You will be able to run 5/5/2 at all times. The only reason I can see to run a single bar set now is to squeeze in a Master/MA/Asylum weapon.

Am I missing something?

5 Lich - 1 ring, gloves, waist resto
2 Willpower - Jewels
5 Acuity - chest legs boots destro
2 undaunted

Just an example, sets can be anything you wish

Checkmath

some sets also will be only for backbarring with summerset.
for example 5 wizards, 5 transmutation, 2 skoria. both last set boni from the 5 piece set only on a sword and sheld backbar. this enables to go master, AS or MSA weapons on frontbar, or 2 items of willpower (or one item in the case of 2h and staves). same counts with others set, where you can squeeze out the last bit of a build.

FrancisCrawford

akray21 wrote: »

Won't single bar sets lose some value next patch with the 2H change (indirect nerf)? You will be able to run 5/5/2 at all times. The only reason I can see to run a single bar set now is to squeeze in a Master/MA/Asylum weapon.

Am I missing something?

Another possibility is 5/4/3, and doing without a monster set. That would be for builds with two items on each bar, i.e. 1H&S and/or DW.

Subversus

Checkmath wrote: »

some sets also will be only for backbarring with summerset.
for example 5 wizards, 5 transmutation, 2 skoria. both last set boni from the 5 piece set only on a sword and sheld backbar. this enables to go master, AS or MSA weapons on frontbar, or 2 items of willpower (or one item in the case of 2h and staves). same counts with others set, where you can squeeze out the last bit of a build.

I really believe willpower staves/agility 2h will go up in price by a lot next patch.