Interspecies Romance and mating?

Casowen

Im just curious is there is anything on this in regards to The elder scrolls, or does everyone just sort of stick to their own species?

Froil

There several interspecies couples in the games, some with evidence of mating. The general rule is any man or mer can interbreed and produce fertile offspring, which will generally be the race of the mother. Prolonged mating can even result in things like the Bretons.

Casowen

Froil wrote: »

There several interspecies couples in the games, some with evidence of mating. The general rule is any man or mer can interbreed and produce fertile offspring, which will generally be the race of the mother. Prolonged mating can even result in things like the Bretons.

Well that makes sense. I can imagine human and elves much like the way I see lions and tigers together, though I never see argonians and nords, or elves and khajit ever together. I am an Altmer in game, and I would love to have it with a khajiit. I guess ESO lacks romance options, where as swtor had quite alot for instance.

Update: I Am really not sure what to makes of orcs and imperials actually. I if I had to guess, the imps(swtor joke) are just about every human race melting pot of nords, redguards and bretons, while orcs I thought where some mix of elves and goblins, though I am really not sure.

FloppyTouch

Casowen wrote: »

Froil wrote: »

There several interspecies couples in the games, some with evidence of mating. The general rule is any man or mer can interbreed and produce fertile offspring, which will generally be the race of the mother. Prolonged mating can even result in things like the Bretons.

Well that makes sense. I can imagine human and elves much like the way I see lions and tigers together, though I never see argonians and nords, or elves and khajit ever together. I am an Altmer in game, and I would love to have it with a khajiit. I guess ESO lacks romance options, where as swtor had quite alot for instance.

Update: I Am really not sure what to makes of orcs and imperials actually. I if I had to guess, the imps(swtor joke) are just about every human race melting pot of nords, redguards and bretons, while orcs I thought where some mix of elves and goblins, though I am really not sure.

Read lusty argonian maid and you will see nord and lizard "stuff"

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

@Casowen orcs were created when the Daedric Prince Boethiah defeated the Aldmeri god Trinimac, transforming him into Malacath and his faithful, the Orsimer, into Orcs. Not the result of interbreeding. Most races are created like this, from intervention of deities. With the aforementioned bretons being the only "half-breeds" in the lore.

Aeslief

There is one Dunmer/Khajiit romance in the Thieves Guild storyline, and in Wrothgar there is an Argonian who does it with pretty much everyone.

Everyone’s favorite cultural Ambassador, Rigurt the Nord, also has a crush on an Orc.

Leandor

Velsa and Nahrani. Just saying.

TelvanniWizard

Racial Philogeny book has the answers you want.

Azurya

Casowen wrote: »

Im just curious is there is anything on this in regards to The elder scrolls, or does everyone just sort of stick to their own species?

true, we need hybrids!

IlCanis_LupuslI

I remember in the Capitol of Greenshade there also is a romance between a Altmer and a Bosmer.

Pheefs

There's a lusty Argonian Alchemist in Wrothgar... if you do the quest you get all the gossip!

also I remember a lovely Nord-Dunmer family you help at one point.
& there's an adorable budding zenophilic romance between a Khajiit & a Dunmer in Coldharbor.

MLGProPlayer

Casowen wrote: »

Well that makes sense. I can imagine human and elves much like the way I see lions and tigers together, though I never see argonians and nords, or elves and khajit ever together. I am an Altmer in game, and I would love to have it with a khajiit. I guess ESO lacks romance options, where as swtor had quite alot for instance.

There are tons of Khaajit + elf/human relationships. There is the bosmer chef and his khajiit crush in the Clockwork City outlaws refuge. There is also a bosmer and khajiit couple in one of the AD jungle zones. I can't remember if they even mentioned having a kid (not sure how that could work).

Carbonised

Look at that adorable Khajgonian. His fur patches almost match the hues of the scaly spots

Zeni0s

I'm still waiting for the Lusty argonian's maid Collectors Edition.

Carbonised

Zeni0s wrote: »

I'm still waiting for the Lusty argonian's maid Collectors Edition.

Illustrated

Casowen

Pheefs wrote: »

There's a lusty Argonian Alchemist in Wrothgar... if you do the quest you get all the gossip!

also I remember a lovely Nord-Dunmer family you help at one point.
& there's an adorable budding zenophilic romance between a Khajiit & a Dunmer in Coldharbor.

oh god, I just saw alot of fan fiction for that one.

Casowen

There are tons of Khaajit + elf/human relationships. There is the bosmer chef and his khajiit crush in the Clockwork City outlaws refuge. There is also a bosmer and khajiit couple in one of the AD jungle zones. I can't remember if they even mentioned having a kid (not sure how that could work).
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I would love to know how that works.

notimetocare

Relationships? Sure. Limits on attraction are not the same as our world. But having a Khajiit Altmer relationship would be looked at by other Altmer more harshly that interracial relationships in the 50s in the South. Just something to remember

KRBMMO

There's a quest in Greenshade where this Argonian male coerces an elf female to be "his".

MythicEmperor

It is an absolutely sickening practice. Dunmer should never dilute their pure blood.

MisterBigglesworth

MythicEmperor

notimetocare wrote: »

Relationships? Sure. Limits on attraction are not the same as our world. But having a Khajiit Altmer relationship would be looked at by other Altmer more harshly that interracial relationships in the 50s in the South. Just something to remember

And the North

The North was still very much racist until the Civil Rights Movement; abolitionism was only popular earlier because slavery wasn’t an economic necessity as it was in the South. This allowed room for moral questions regarding the practice.

Casowen

MythicEmperor wrote: »

It is an absolutely sickening practice. Dunmer should never dilute their pure blood.

Im very much pro dunmer, though more the vivec sense. If there is any aboriginal justifcation for the hubris, it didnt come from the gods.

TelvanniWizard

MythicEmperor wrote: »

It is an absolutely sickening practice. Dunmer should never dilute their pure blood.

If there was some bosmer with the looks of Alli Rae I wouldn´t mind diluting a bit of blood

WhiteCoatSyndrome

We have a single recorded instance of an Argonian producing offspring outside of their race; her husband was an Altmer.

Casowen wrote: »

Update: I Am really not sure what to makes of orcs and imperials actually. I if I had to guess, the imps(swtor joke) are just about every human race melting pot of nords, redguards and bretons

Imperials are descended from Nedic slaves who overthrew their Ayleid masters and the Redguards didn't invade until about 500 years after that, so not so much the Redguards.

Kierro

Personally I hate the "The child takes after the mother thing.", just like pokémon games. It's just a sad excuse to not creating new character model for hybrids. I have an altmer (halfbreed) alt for RP who father was Altmer and mother a Nord.

As for the question, yes there's many interspecies relationships;
The stable master's daughter in Windhelm wants to sleep with the Argonian stable boy.
There's a Dunmer woman who's husband is an Argonian born away from the Hist.
There's a Dunmer woman banker(?) who has a female Khajiit merchant flirt with in Coldharbour.
There's a male Khajiit in the giant tree in Grahtwood who's clan wants him to marry either an Altmer or Bosmer woman for alliance purposes.
It's not ESO, plus she's not born yet, but read The Real Barenziah v4 (Morrowind game version is uncensored). Barenziah has graphic public-sex in a tavern, with a Khajiit who jokes about his pe nis.

There's many more.

notimetocare

Kierro wrote: »

Personally I hate the "The child takes after the mother thing.", just like pokémon games. It's just a sad excuse to not creating new character model for hybrids. I have an altmer (halfbreed) alt for RP who father was Altmer and mother a Nord.

As for the question, yes there's many interspecies relationships;
The stable master's daughter in Windhelm wants to sleep with the Argonian stable boy.
There's a Dunmer woman who's husband is an Argonian born away from the Hist.
There's a Dunmer woman banker(?) who has a female Khajiit merchant flirt with in Coldharbour.
There's a male Khajiit in the giant tree in Grahtwood who's clan wants him to marry either an Altmer or Bosmer woman for alliance purposes.
It's not ESO, plus she's not born yet, but read The Real Barenziah v4 (Morrowind game version is uncensored). Barenziah has graphic public-sex in a tavern, with a Khajiit who jokes about his ***.

There's many more.

We don't make the lore the TES team does. On Racial Phylogeny and the rigidity of racial lines in TES

Reddkatz

Kierro wrote: »

Personally I hate the "The child takes after the mother thing.", just like pokémon games. It's just a sad excuse to not creating new character model for hybrids. I have an altmer (halfbreed) alt for RP who father was Altmer and mother a Nord.

And the game contradicts itself too because there is that couple in Stonefalls - Nord husband and Dunmer wife, but all their kids are Nords...

dodgehopper_ESO

*Read Racial Phylogeny guys. elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Notes_on_Racial_Phylogeny

It is an in game book and while it is not overly scientific it does share general knowledge of the world and beliefs in the world held by the scientists (Read: Mages).

*On the matter of Argonians mating with anything other than Argonians: Yucky. I say this as a huge fan of Argonians too. On the matter of Khajiit mating with non Khajiit: Yucky. (Although there are breeds of elf-like Khajiit which make this less yucky).

Casowen wrote: »

Froil wrote: »

There several interspecies couples in the games, some with evidence of mating. The general rule is any man or mer can interbreed and produce fertile offspring, which will generally be the race of the mother. Prolonged mating can even result in things like the Bretons.

Well that makes sense. I can imagine human and elves much like the way I see lions and tigers together, though I never see argonians and nords, or elves and khajit ever together. I am an Altmer in game, and I would love to have it with a khajiit. I guess ESO lacks romance options, where as swtor had quite alot for instance.

Update: I Am really not sure what to makes of orcs and imperials actually. I if I had to guess, the imps(swtor joke) are just about every human race melting pot of nords, redguards and bretons, while orcs I thought where some mix of elves and goblins, though I am really not sure.

*Imperials are a mix of all human races which included Akaviri and Kothringi along with the aforementioned Nords, Bretons, & Redguards.

*Orcs are not a mix of elves and goblins and they'd probably hatchet people in the face for saying so. Orcs are the result of their progenitor-god Trinimac being gobbled up and defecated after a war he led against Boethiah and her Velothi servants. Its not entirely clear what went down in the dawn era but all that is known is that the followers of Trinimac fought with the followers of St. Veloth and Trinimac fell. After this his race of Aldmer was cursed into the form you see today. It is interesting to note that Orcs are not the only twisted race. Dunmer were once the gold skinned people you see in Summerset. It wasn't until they abandoned Azura that she cursed them with red eyes and dark skin (and possibly shorter height) to show their dark hearts on the surface. Khajiit are likewise believed to be a form of mer that was twisted by Azurrah and their whole species is twisted by the cycle of moons. I have other theories about what the writers intend by creatures such as Goblins, Ogres, Giants, Rieklings but I don't want to throw out my narrative guesses there. I'll simply hint that I think the Falmer/Snow elves are a case study in this.

Ilsabet

Reddkatz wrote: »

Kierro wrote: »

Personally I hate the "The child takes after the mother thing.", just like pokémon games. It's just a sad excuse to not creating new character model for hybrids. I have an altmer (halfbreed) alt for RP who father was Altmer and mother a Nord.

And the game contradicts itself too because there is that couple in Stonefalls - Nord husband and Dunmer wife, but all their kids are Nords...

This one comes up a lot in discussions like this. Given that the couple got married after the Akaviri war (which ended 10 years ago) and the sons are all adults, it's likely that the sons are from an earlier marriage (presumably with a fellow Nord).

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

Reddkatz wrote: »

Kierro wrote: »

Personally I hate the "The child takes after the mother thing.", just like pokémon games. It's just a sad excuse to not creating new character model for hybrids. I have an altmer (halfbreed) alt for RP who father was Altmer and mother a Nord.

And the game contradicts itself too because there is that couple in Stonefalls - Nord husband and Dunmer wife, but all their kids are Nords...

adopted? from a previous relationship?