NB is not OP. The real menacing issue is..

GreenhaloX

When I bring in my StamBlade, I kill other NBs and classes alike and get killed by other NBs and toons alike. I am successful in cloaking/shadow out and unsuccessful at other times when others are using methods/ways to counter it. Same as when I bring in other toons. I am able to kill NBs and get killed by them alike. Cloaking or NB is working as intended. It is neither OP nor needs a nerf. Now, let me refocus you all to the real problem; the real menace. It is those bunny hopping arse toons/players; those that are hopping around everywhere non-stop. You are not kangaroos or bunny rabbits! Get on the planted ground and fight me like a real man or woman; mono a mono. Nerf that hopping shitt. Give it cooldown where you can't hop for another 10 seconds or so. Damn peeps, this isn't Super Mario Bros. This is ESO. Fight with skills and abilities and not bouncing around up and down like you're trying to hit a question block to pop out coins or something.

Kuramas9tails

Nuuuu. I hop around to pull people away from the zerg to kill. They think I am being cocky but all I am doing it getting their attention and you proved my point. Come on over and follow the hopping MageBlade. Nothing bad will happen I promise.

Aebaradath

The Trinity of true OP'ness: Lag, Loading Screens, Falling through the floor.

Edit: I forgot what the others are.

GreenhaloX

Kuramas9tails wrote: »

Nuuuu. I hop around to pull people away from the zerg to kill. They think I am being cocky but all I am doing it getting their attention and you proved my point. Come on over and follow the hopping MageBlade. Nothing bad will happen I promise.

Ha ha.. I hear you.

SBC

Made me think of CoD

Namarkas

...clickbait titles
(and yes I came here to check if this comment already existed )

profundidob16_ESO

GreenhaloX wrote: »

When I bring in my StamBlade, I kill other NBs and classes alike and get killed by other NBs and toons alike. I am successful in cloaking/shadow out and unsuccessful at other times when others are using methods/ways to counter it. Same as when I bring in other toons. I am able to kill NBs and get killed by them alike. Cloaking or NB is working as intended. It is neither OP nor needs a nerf. Now, let me refocus you all to the real problem; the real menace. It is those bunny hopping arse toons/players; those that are hopping around everywhere non-stop. You are not kangaroos or bunny rabbits! Get on the planted ground and fight me like a real man or woman; mono a mono. Nerf that hopping shitt. Give it cooldown where you can't hop for another 10 seconds or so. Damn peeps, this isn't Super Mario Bros. This is ESO. Fight with skills and abilities and not bouncing around up and down like you're trying to hit a question block to pop out coins or something.

"mono a mono"...

ROFLMAO =P =P

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=mano a mano

Katahdin

GreenhaloX wrote: »

When I bring in my StamBlade, I kill other NBs and classes alike and get killed by other NBs and toons alike. I am successful in cloaking/shadow out and unsuccessful at other times when others are using methods/ways to counter it. Same as when I bring in other toons. I am able to kill NBs and get killed by them alike. Cloaking or NB is working as intended. It is neither OP nor needs a nerf.

QFT

Inig0

ammended title

NB is not OP. The real menacing issue is.. [all the other classes arent going in the direction they should be and are underperforming in what they should be good at whereas nightblade is doing what it should how it should.]

tl;dr

nightblade is balanced within itself whereas all the other classes doent have the same utility for itself across the board like nb does.

Biro123

but,.. but bunny-hopping is all sorcs have left!!

GreenhaloX

profundidob16_ESO wrote: »

GreenhaloX wrote: »

When I bring in my StamBlade, I kill other NBs and classes alike and get killed by other NBs and toons alike. I am successful in cloaking/shadow out and unsuccessful at other times when others are using methods/ways to counter it. Same as when I bring in other toons. I am able to kill NBs and get killed by them alike. Cloaking or NB is working as intended. It is neither OP nor needs a nerf. Now, let me refocus you all to the real problem; the real menace. It is those bunny hopping arse toons/players; those that are hopping around everywhere non-stop. You are not kangaroos or bunny rabbits! Get on the planted ground and fight me like a real man or woman; mono a mono. Nerf that hopping shitt. Give it cooldown where you can't hop for another 10 seconds or so. Damn peeps, this isn't Super Mario Bros. This is ESO. Fight with skills and abilities and not bouncing around up and down like you're trying to hit a question block to pop out coins or something.

"mono a mono"...

ROFLMAO =P =P

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=mano a mano

Yes.. yes, I'm being humorous and incorrect as some perception on NBs.

red_emu

I can't stand all the hopping either. Breaks my immersion. I guess they are all those kids that grew up on CoD where hopping was a viable tactic to avoid getting hit. They don't seem to realise, that you will still receive damage from an AoE and that your hitbox is too big to make hopping in any way advantageous. It is annoying beyond belief. You can just tell when someone is sitting in their mom's spare room in dirty tracksuit with techno music pumping from the speaker

Torbschka

Actually hoping is somewhat useful, hopping in one direction, changing camera mir air and look behind u, change back - u didnt stop moving.

Waffennacht

On console, if you wanna spend the fingers to jump, all the more power to ya

GreenhaloX

Torbschka wrote: »

Actually hoping is somewhat useful, hopping in one direction, changing camera mir air and look behind u, change back - u didnt stop moving.

Sure, but, it's just so funny. Ha ha. You're like, wtf, man. There is a 3-man (or woman) AD group on PS4 constantly going around doing that and trying to farm non-group peeps. All 3 are like non-stop hopping and bouncing around in every which way directions. I'm pretty much like I'm not wasting my times with these guys. There are a few other solo dudes going around doing same. Well, I'm sure there are peeps in all alliances doing it. Ahhh, PvP..

TequilaFire

Give bunny hopping the streak treatment!

Motherball

“Meet me on my own terms so I can beat you easier.” Great solution...

Luigi_Vampa

Nah, hopping is the best PvP taunt we have. Nothing is so successful at getting players to follow and focus you.

Vaoh

...if Staff-based Heavy Attacks didn’t snare you, if snares/roots weren’t so prevalent in PvP, and if skill animations weren’t so clunky, then there would be no need to “bunny hop”.

By jumping you move with whatever momentum you had when you first jumped.

This means you can cast almost a full Heavy Attack at normal movement speed to avoid that unnecessary penalty. This means you gain that extra bit of movement as 1000000 Vampire’s Bane/Crippling Grasp/root poisons etc mess up your character’s movement. Lastly and most importantly, it allows you to cast clunky skills far easier. A class like Sorcerer has skills like Crystal Fragments which have trouble casting since Dark Brotherhood if at an angle, causing you to have to click the button a few times to cast - if you are midair it casts much easier.

I don’t bunny hop constantly but there are times I jump a lot and it saves my life, or allows me to get off burst that normally would’ve failed to fire.

ofSunhold

Kuramas9tails wrote: »

Nuuuu... Come on over and follow the hopping MageBlade. Nothing bad will happen I promise.

Hmmm...

Well, I'll be over there in a while. Gotta pack up my "house."

vamp_emily

WTB Bunny ears in crown store.

Biro123

Vaoh wrote: »

...if Staff-based Heavy Attacks didn’t snare you, if snares/roots weren’t so prevalent in PvP, and if skill animations weren’t so clunky, then there would be no need to “bunny hop”.

By jumping you move with whatever momentum you had when you first jumped.

This means you can cast almost a full Heavy Attack at normal movement speed to avoid that unnecessary penalty. This means you gain that extra bit of movement as 1000000 Vampire’s Bane/Crippling Grasp/root poisons etc mess up your character’s movement. Lastly and most importantly, it allows you to cast clunky skills far easier. A class like Sorcerer has skills like Crystal Fragments which have trouble casting since Dark Brotherhood if at an angle, causing you to have to click the button a few times to cast - if you are midair it casts much easier.

I don’t bunny hop constantly but there are times I jump a lot and it saves my life, or allows me to get off burst that normally would’ve failed to fire.

This is very true - and when timing that burst is oh, so important you don't want is screwed up by a bump in the ground..

Maulkin

Yes indeed, the only thing that does not impact combat balance in the slightest is the biggest problem *rolls eyes*

Maybe take some anger management lessons and don't get triggered so easily?

Subversus

I like spamming jump, especially on ranged classes like magblade and msorc. It helps me with timing weaves, but it is even better since it annoys so many other people >_>

It’s funny, such a harmless mechanic causes such a fuss. Talk about psychological combat.

VaranisArano

Little player Foo Foo
Hopping through the battle
Scooping up the zergers
And bopping them on the head

Down came the ZOS Fairy, and she said
"Little player Foo Foo
I don't want to see you
Scooping up the zergers
And bopping them on the head.
I'll give you three chances,
And if you don't stop, I'll turn you into a GOON!"

And the next day...

Ranger209

Luigi_Vampa wrote: »

Nah, hopping is the best PvP taunt we have. Nothing is so successful at getting players to follow and focus you.

Try air teabagging, bet it works even better

kyle.wilson

Sometimes I hop to regain target when a zergling I'm attacking tries to hide behind their friends.

GreenhaloX

Maulkin wrote: »

Yes indeed, the only thing that does not impact combat balance in the slightest is the biggest problem *rolls eyes*

Maybe take some anger management lessons and don't get triggered so easily?

Oh Heavens no.. I'm not angry. I just find those bunny hopping dudes/toons a bit hilarious and amusing. Although, I did tried the so-called anger management classes once upon a time, but those just made me more angrier. Over times, I found the best therapy for anything is good food with good friends/company and good drinks (in moderation, of course.)

Thogard

Hopping prevents walkthrough. You have 360 degree LOS while in the air. Nerfing jumping would be a huge blow to high level mag players.

Minalan

Thogard wrote: »

Hopping prevents walkthrough. You have 360 degree LOS while in the air. Nerfing jumping would be a huge blow to high level mag players.

It’s not even that, it’s about LOS and timing.

Jumping is like an in game metronome, landing means another GCD has passed, so you cast/cancel/jump again. It also gives you better LOS when fighting uphill, you can also cast at people over small obstacles, and when you land they can’t hit you.

There are good reasons for doing it. If it triggers you that bad, then you seriously need some medication. Or a bong hit. Or something. Chill!

There are also downsides to doing it. Someone jumping can’t dodge roll in midair. If they jump and get caught in mid-air (like falling down a staircase or steep incline) the game kind of breaks and often they can’t re-cast shields until they land.

Jaimeh

GreenhaloX wrote: »

Damn peeps, this isn't Super Mario Bros.

This made me laugh! Now every time someone hops in Cyrodiil I'll conjure the image of Luigi jumping to headbutt a block