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Absolutely No Idea Where To Allocate My Champion Points

Vanchatron
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I just reinstalled ESO after a year break and am currently trying to figure out where to allocate all my Champion Points to. I'm a Stamina based DPS who uses Dual Wield & a Bow and wears Medium armour.

Is there a theorycrafting kind of site or addon which can help me to allocate my points optimally? I came across an addon called 'Constellations' which is meant to tell you where to allocate your points, although it seemed bugged and I couldn't understand how to use it properly.

I'd appreciate some help with this, as I'm really stuck right now.

Thank you.
  • xXSilverDragonXx
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    What class are you? Are you PVE or PVP? Alcast is great with builds and he always has the champion points listed as well. They really help you get started on the right foot.

    https://alcasthq.com/

    Use the dragon bones update versions for current builds. He gives a very details list of sets for when you hit cp160 that are optimal for you as well as the ideal skills and rotations. You don't have to follow it if you like to go your own path, but at least it helps put you on a path that tends to work well for many.

    Have fun!
  • newtinmpls
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    Wow, thanks @davey1107 that actually made sense to me ... and I've struggled with every incarnation of CPs.
    Tenesi Faryon of Telvanni - Dunmer Sorceress who deliberately sought sacrifice into Cold Harbor to rescue her beloved.
    Hisa Ni Caemaire - Altmer Sorceress, member of the Order Draconis and Adept of the House of Dibella.
    Broken Branch Toothmaul - goblin (for my goblin characters, I use either orsimer or bosmer templates) Templar, member of the Order Draconis and persistently unskilled pickpocket
    Mol gro Durga - Orsimer Socerer/Battlemage who died the first time when the Nibenay Valley chapterhouse of the Order Draconis was destroyed, then went back to Cold Harbor to rescue his second/partner who was still captive. He overestimated his resistance to the hopelessness of Oblivion, about to give up, and looked up to see the golden glow of atherius surrounding a beautiful young woman who extended her hand to him and said "I can help you". He carried Fianna Kingsley out of Cold Harbor on his shoulder. He carried Alvard Stower under one arm. He also irritated the Prophet who had intended the portal for only Mol and Lyris.
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    Order Draconis - well c'mon there has to be some explanation for all those dragon tattoos.
    House of Dibella - If you have ever seen or read "Memoirs of a Geisha" that's just the beginning...
    Nibenay Valley Chapterhouse - Where now stands only desolate ground and a dolmen there once was a thriving community supporting one of the major chapterhouses of the Order Draconis
  • Violynne
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    davey1107 wrote: »
    - CPs are MASSIVELY front loaded, meaning the first point spent is monumentally more valuable than the 100th in any given passive. For example, green...the lover...mooncalf (stam recovery). You can spend up to 100 points to get 15% stam recovery. HOWEVER, 75 points gets you 14%, so those last 25 points require a ton of CPs to get a small benefit.
    Completely forgot all about this, but now it makes sense. I was wondering why it was costing me so much.

    Time for a respec. I'd rather use those points across multiple options than dumped into a single. 1% difference isn't a loss, but those extra points sure are.



    Edited by Violynne on March 19, 2018 11:09AM
  • Vanchatron
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    Thank you very much. Let's say I wanted to just put stuff into what I personally felt was right for my character and didn't want to follow any specific guide, would I be really bottlenecked (I think that's the right word, haha) when it comes to PvE, Trials etc?
  • Violynne
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    Vanchatron wrote: »
    Thank you very much. Let's say I wanted to just put stuff into what I personally felt was right for my character and didn't want to follow any specific guide, would I be really bottlenecked (I think that's the right word, haha) when it comes to PvE, Trials etc?
    No. Skill is what will make a difference here. Knowing your rotation is critical. A loss is usually determined by throwing the wrong skill at the wrong time, leaving a gaping hole the opponent takes advantage of.

  • Anotherone773
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    If you dont want to clone someone elses build or like to "fine tune" those you find for your own taste you can use the UESP build editor here

    I found it to be quite useful as i dont clone other people's build.
  • Wolfenbelle
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    Vanchatron wrote: »
    I'm a Stamina based DPS who uses Dual Wield & a Bow and wears Medium armour.

    OP, I have played a stamina Templar DPS for 4 years. I don't min/max, but manage to do fine in all the content I enjoy. One place to start to understand the CP system is these videos by Sherman's Gaming. He has done the math and taught the community about what he calls "jump" points. Basically that means the percentages round down, so really only the whole numbers count. A number of, say, 5.35% is really the same as 5.75%. Only when it "jumps" to 6% do you get a benefit.

    ESO Guide Cp Allocation and where to begin with CP per build type


    ESO Guide to Champion Points


    Exactly how you spend your points depends on your playstyle, gear and character to some extent, and if you play more PvE or PvP. I play about 90% PvE, DW on my front bar and do something different than most on my back bar. I use a lightening staff for sustain and the ultimate. I have caltrops on that bar too, plus my Templar healing skills. Even though I'm stamina DPS, I still want some boost to magicka and I get it through CP. Here's how I have my CP points for now -- because diminishing returns is so severe, I prefer to spread out my points rather than put them all into just a few stars:

    19 Blessed
    19 Elemental Expert
    10 Spell Erosion
    26 Physical Weapon Expert
    37 Master-at-Arms
    16 Staff Expert
    28 Mighty
    11 Piercing
    11 Precise Strikes
    56 Thaumaturge
    23 Ironclad
    29 Medium Armor Focus
    19 Spell Shield
    43 Elemental Defender
    43 Hardy
    23 Thick Skinned
    11 Bastion
    43 Quick Recovery
    19 Siphoner
    11 Warlord
    23 Arcanist
    43 Healthy
    75 Mooncalf
    43 Tenacity
    11 Shadow Ward
    8 Shade

    I hope this helps at least give you a starting point.
    Edited by Wolfenbelle on March 21, 2018 1:19AM
  • Sparr0w
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    There's like 3/4 priority in each section (green/red/blue) which you'll want a lot into, until you start getting low returns. These will vary depending on build.

    The rest can either be put into the same as above for 1/2% extra, or can be spread around to cover other areas of the game.

    You'll also want to look into the passives you get from having X points in a certain tree, e.g. 12% extra crit!
    @Sparr0w so I get the notification
    Xbox (EU) - l Sparrow x | CP 810+
    DD: All Mag + Stam
    Heal: Templar | Sorc | NB | Warden | Necro
    Tank: NB | DK | Warden
    Completions: All HM's + TTT + IR + GH
    PC (EU) - Sparrxw | CP 810+
    DD: All Mag + Stam
    Heal: Templar | Sorc
    Tank: DK | NB
    Completions: All HM's + TTT + IR + GH + GS
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