Internet Speed Relevance!

KingYogi415

I am interested if anyone can give me feedback on using different internet speeds for playing ESO.

I am upgrading my internet to 150mbs, but for 10$ more a month I could get 250mbs.

The game played fine at 20mbs and pretty great at 75.

I'm wondering if anyone has upgraded from 150 to 250mbs and noticed any difference in gameplay at all.

After a certain point it's hard to imagine faster speed doing anything.

Anyone have some insight?

Cheers!

Most_Awesome

I'm on wireless Virgin UK think the standard is 200mbs, so I was getting about 40mbs but I lagged like hell when my lad started playing online on his ps4 and when in large battles.
So what I did was brought a new router for £50 that supports duel band, I now go on the 5ghz band and my speed has gone up to 97mbs and the peasants in the house on their ipads and ps4 are on the 2.4 band still, and I've not had any lag since, I can jump in the middle of mega zergs and not have any problems at all.


In short I used to lag like hell, disconnects etc but once I went 5g it was like a new game

LegacyDM

KingYogi415 wrote: »

I am interested if anyone can give me feedback on using different internet speeds for playing ESO.

I am upgrading my internet to 150mbs, but for 10$ more a month I could get 250mbs.

The game played fine at 20mbs and pretty great at 75.

I'm wondering if anyone has upgraded from 150 to 250mbs and noticed any difference in gameplay at all.

After a certain point it's hard to imagine faster speed doing anything.

Anyone have some insight?

Cheers!

You won’t see a difference in game performance. Your ping will still be the same. The advantage to having more mbs is a wider download pipe which will allow you to download updates and games faster. However, ping and latency is not dependent on your mbs. Ping is based on distance, infrastructure, routing, and other factors. You can run this game at 20mbs and the ping will be the same at 300.

Vapirko

You can play eso or most games on like 50mb download and 10 upload as long as it’s just you using the internet. The more people you have in the house doing things like streaming or downloading stuff the better internet you want. What will affect your performance most beyond that is playing on a wired connection and having a good quality modem and router. If it’s just you or two people in your house 150 should be more than enough.

KingYogi415

I play wired and have around 30-40 ping.

Just got 150mbs, skills seem to go off faster and bar swap is more reliable.

FPS still dropping in battlegrounds exactly the same as 75mbs which is a disappointment.

I’m planing on upgrading to a pro soon which I hope will solve some fps problems.

LegacyDM

KingYogi415 wrote: »

I play wired and have around 30-40 ping.

Just got 150mbs, skills seem to go off faster and bar swap is more reliable.

FPS still dropping in battlegrounds exactly the same as 75mbs which is a disappointment.

I’m planing on upgrading to a pro soon which I hope will solve some fps problems.

Placebo effect. At 30-40 ping, increasing the bandwidth won’t change the rate of skills firing off.

FPS is dependent on Graphic card and processor and only if you had a very poor connection (which you don’t have in either case)

madchuska83

It's all about the ping!

Lylith

'30-40 ping...'

never seen that.

doesn't happen in my neck of the woods, too many hops.

eso_lags

You shouldnt have to upgrade with that speed. I used to play on 15mbs download and like 2 updload and it was fine. Now i have 120 down 10+ up and this game is a laggy piece of junk. And the only game i know that performs like this.

However if you have money to blow and you really like playing this nightmare, i have talked to SOME players (maybe 2-3) who have 200-300 speed and dont lag very much. But agian, you shouldnt have to. This game used to work with low speeds and still should. Like i said as well, i have very good speed and i cant play. Like im here right now because ive been lagging and crashing all night in pvp. Games junk.

Glurin

Vapirko wrote: »

You can play eso or most games on like 50mb download and 10 upload as long as it’s just you using the internet. The more people you have in the house doing things like streaming or downloading stuff the better internet you want. What will affect your performance most beyond that is playing on a wired connection and having a good quality modem and router. If it’s just you or two people in your house 150 should be more than enough.

itzTJ wrote: »

You shouldnt have to upgrade with that speed. I used to play on 15mbs download and like 2 updload and it was fine. Now i have 120 down 10+ up and this game is a laggy piece of junk. And the only game i know that performs like this.

However if you have money to blow and you really like playing this nightmare, i have talked to SOME players (maybe 2-3) who have 200-300 speed and dont lag very much. But agian, you shouldnt have to. This game used to work with low speeds and still should. Like i said as well, i have very good speed and i cant play. Like im here right now because ive been lagging and crashing all night in pvp. Games junk.

You're both right. More bandwidth will absolutely help you out if you have multiple people trying to use the internet at once. Think of it like a doorway. One person going through is no problem, but if two, three or more people try to go through at once they're just going to get in each other's way and make it difficult to go though. Getting higher bandwidth would be akin to making the doorway wider, which means more people can go through at once unhindered.

However, there's no guarantee that it will reduce the lag you experience because the problem might be further up the chain. That doesn't mean it's ZoS either though. For example, the problem might be somewhere in say, Kentucky, and there's nothing that either you or ZoS can do about it because it's a completely unrelated party that is causing the issue and your internet traffic just happens to pass through there.

Seraphayel

50MB, 100MB, 250MB doesn't matter. All of that is more than enough to play ESO and you won't get better results with 250MB than with 100MB. If you're lagging with 50MB or more, it is definitely not your speed but ZOS servers.

ItsMeToo

Glurin wrote: »

Vapirko wrote: »

You can play eso or most games on like 50mb download and 10 upload as long as it’s just you using the internet. The more people you have in the house doing things like streaming or downloading stuff the better internet you want. What will affect your performance most beyond that is playing on a wired connection and having a good quality modem and router. If it’s just you or two people in your house 150 should be more than enough.

itzTJ wrote: »

You shouldnt have to upgrade with that speed. I used to play on 15mbs download and like 2 updload and it was fine. Now i have 120 down 10+ up and this game is a laggy piece of junk. And the only game i know that performs like this.

However if you have money to blow and you really like playing this nightmare, i have talked to SOME players (maybe 2-3) who have 200-300 speed and dont lag very much. But agian, you shouldnt have to. This game used to work with low speeds and still should. Like i said as well, i have very good speed and i cant play. Like im here right now because ive been lagging and crashing all night in pvp. Games junk.

You're both right. More bandwidth will absolutely help you out if you have multiple people trying to use the internet at once. Think of it like a doorway. One person going through is no problem, but if two, three or more people try to go through at once they're just going to get in each other's way and make it difficult to go though. Getting higher bandwidth would be akin to making the doorway wider, which means more people can go through at once unhindered.

However, there's no guarantee that it will reduce the lag you experience because the problem might be further up the chain. That doesn't mean it's ZoS either though. For example, the problem might be somewhere in say, Kentucky, and there's nothing that either you or ZoS can do about it because it's a completely unrelated party that is causing the issue and your internet traffic just happens to pass through there.

It's because the internet packets are stopping to pickup some KFC.

ADarklore

I have 6mbs and my game plays just fine. People complaining about 50mbs... REALLY?!?

Slick_007

Vapirko wrote: »

You can play eso or most games on like 50mb download and 10 upload as long as it’s just you using the internet.

you dont even need anywhere near that. try 5/1 and youre still ok. anything upwards of that just helps patch faster. Every online game i've come across, and being former ISP tech support iv seen the usage patterns for games i didnt even play, had 1 thing in common - very low usage while being played. low usage while playing means you only need low speeds to cover it.

ping on the other hand - you cant really do much about this beyond very minor adjustments. ethernet vs wifi is at best 3ms difference. If you're wifi isnt optimal, a little more. But its not much in the scope of the whole thing.
I used to get 7ms on swtor over wifi at a hotel. where i live i get 5ms to the nearest capital city. its mostly location, location, location. Reduce ping? move home!

Gythral

ESO will run fine on a <2mb connection, if it is stable & has a fast route (ping), downloading and patching wont be fun

The usual comment about faster packages is that you do tend to get better results from paying more

Sigma957

It's nothing to do with with your download/upload speed but all to do with your connection to the servers and how many connections it does to get there and these change. Being where I am I have about 30 lol so no wonder my ping is around 290.

RouDeR

Internet Speed MB/S has nothing to do with the Latency/ping.
Sometimes I play ESO from my Phone internet with 130 kb/sec download and upload speed which is ENOUGH .
The thing that matters is the Latency your Internet provider has , you can have 250mb/s Internet and still have lag cuz of crappy DNS servers.

Nestor

KingYogi415 wrote: »

After a certain point it's hard to imagine faster speed doing anything.

Anyone have some insight?

Cheers!

Playing MMO's and most other online games, your really sending Kb of packets back and forth, not Mb's. So, really, anything above 10Mb is a waste for this game, or any other for that matter.

What more speeds will help, up to a point, is to have more people in your house also streaming video, surfing the web, playing other games. How high is this point? Less than 75Mb.

Save your money for other things in life.

Invincible

I am on xfinity gig speed ethernet. I can download a bluray to my 256gb ssd in about 10 minutes - which is about the same amount of time it takes me to log in to eso.

I'm sure the problem is on my and the 10,000,000 other players ends though.

Slick_007

Invincible wrote: »

I am on xfinity gig speed ethernet. I can download a bluray to my 256gb ssd in about 10 minutes - which is about the same amount of time it takes me to log in to eso.

I'm sure the problem is on my and the 10,000,000 other players ends though.

unsure whether you are trolling or admitting you know nothing about how the internet works.

Androconium

Australia's premium network, NBN is capped at 100mbs. So much for world-class performance.

My observation is that this speed is what you get between your connection and the nearest hub.
After that, there is no point even asking.

I get 375-425 ping on a good day.

Sorry, we do get charged world-class pricing, though.

Glurin

Androconium wrote: »

Australia's premium network, NBN is capped at 100mbs. So much for world-class performance.

My observation is that this speed is what you get between your connection and the nearest hub.
After that, there is no point even asking.

It's more than mere observation. The speed you're paying for from any ISP is strictly the upper limit they are promising to provide between you and that ISP. Technically speaking, that may only get you a few miles, if that. The rest of the internet is completely beyond their control.

It seems to be a common misconception that the internet is basically one giant company spanning the entire globe. Fact is, it's just a collection of different individual networks linked together.

LordSemaj

Internet connection hasn't been a problem since the arrival of cable and DSL. Sure, having a bigger package may have mattered when some people were on 56k modems but anyone sporting better than that has been running 30 or better ping for the majority of online games since the 90s. Games are not taking more and more connection requirements. They're hammering our CPUs and our graphics cards.

A chief reason other MMOs don't experience these problems is their willingness to spend money on player enjoyment. That could be upgrading servers, that could be refining data usage with quality updates, or it could be paying their ISP for priority service to ensure their players aren't lagging. ZOS clearly is not a fan of these things and even sparingly makes use of GMs. They will fiercely pay their moderation team to attack players who portray their game or company in a negative light but will not spend a dime on fixing something that isn't completely broken.

Bonzodog01

Just going to add, it does matter which server(s) you connect to - the EU servers, based in Frankfurt, Germany have a very decent link to them, and don't do too bad most nights for bandwidth. However, in PvP, its still bad, but it appears to be the nature of Cyrodiil. Outside of that I rarely disconnect.

The Servers causing all the issues are the NA servers based in Dallas, Texas which have still have a router in their local loop (roughly two jumps before the DC) that goes down repeatedly and is causing massive routing issues to the DC.

Slick_007

Androconium wrote: »

Australia's premium network, NBN is capped at 100mbs. So much for world-class performance.

except its not capped at 100Mb. hasnt been for a very long time.

danno8

ESO uses 15-20 KB per second. 250 megabits per second (31,250 KB per second) is several orders of magnitude overkill.

Around 1500X faster than what the game uses.

Ragnarock41

Playing at 8 mbps here. 80-110 ping usually. I would say outside of the prime time Its very playable.

ccfeeling

6M user here , trial zones and open world are still OK , at least I can run simple rotation but I will turn off combat text to reduce the numbers as much as possible , but what I dont understand is VMA , that's the instance only me , but most of the time I feel laggy , I have no idea what the network structure ZOS run . And I think they never think about the improvement .

CompM4s

KingYogi415 wrote: »

I am interested if anyone can give me feedback on using different internet speeds for playing ESO.

I am upgrading my internet to 150mbs, but for 10$ more a month I could get 250mbs.

The game played fine at 20mbs and pretty great at 75.

I'm wondering if anyone has upgraded from 150 to 250mbs and noticed any difference in gameplay at all.

After a certain point it's hard to imagine faster speed doing anything.

Anyone have some insight?

Cheers!

Keep in mind if you get 150mbs, that means up to 150mbs only if directly wired. Most likely would float around 130-140 wired and around 100 wireless. If you get 250mbs, would be atleast above 200 wired and around 150 wireless. Depending on how many devices you have I would opt for the 250mbs just to be safe.

MLGProPlayer

I have 1 Gbit internet. I never have below 100 ping, usually 120-140.

I live in Toronto.

For reference, my ping is 20-30 in Overwatch and Rainbow 6.

Anotherone773

As it was said ping is the most important in an MMO. Most MMOs do not require a lot of bandwidth, but need good ping. I play on a 15Mbps connection down and 1Mbps just fine even while the wife is streaming netflix. My ping is 30-40 ms to the internet and 115-150ms to the ESO NA server.