Level up rewards

Juju_beans

You guys are all upset but it's because you ASSUMED there would be new season crates.

The level up rewards didn't say "crown crate", they said "Flame Atronach crate".

Cpt_Teemo

Juju_beans wrote: »

No one knows. So just don't play that character until the new crates come out and then level up to get a crate and see what you get.

Problem is I believe the crate rewards are account wide rewards not character rewards

Linaleah

Juju_beans wrote: »

You guys are all upset but it's because you ASSUMED there would be new season crates.

The level up rewards didn't say "crown crate", they said "Flame Atronach crate".

we are upset because instead of telling us early on, they waited until now. and that quote above, from you? pure gold :P

Slick_007

Robvenom wrote: »

Why?

Is it because you guys cannot be bothered to update them?
Or is it because you guys just spend all day every day trying to think of ways to annoy your player base?

And why wait so long to tell us? you KNOW people were waiting. But you don't care?

Micromanaging is another reason ESO will be a relic when the next batch of new MMO's come out. Combine that with the absolutely disgraceful state of PvP, the atrocious level scaling that makes the entire world so easy a 5-year-old could complete it and the absolute, LONGEST loading screens I have ever experienced in any MMO, ever, and I have been playing MMO's for over 15 years.

Seriously, the loading screens and lag this game has in 2018, you guys should be outright ashamed of yourselves not just as developers, but as people. IT IS DISGUSTING.

would changing the crates stop your raging? i doubt it. when they get to read posts like this over something so petty, it really makes them want to go out of their way to do things for people. as pointed out, it even specifies the type of crown crate. So yeh, it was pretty clear. Sure, changing them woulda been cool, but hey, we get exactly what we were told we'd get. Your hatred is unwarranted.

Linaleah

Slick_007 wrote: »

Robvenom wrote: »

Why?

Is it because you guys cannot be bothered to update them?
Or is it because you guys just spend all day every day trying to think of ways to annoy your player base?

And why wait so long to tell us? you KNOW people were waiting. But you don't care?

Micromanaging is another reason ESO will be a relic when the next batch of new MMO's come out. Combine that with the absolutely disgraceful state of PvP, the atrocious level scaling that makes the entire world so easy a 5-year-old could complete it and the absolute, LONGEST loading screens I have ever experienced in any MMO, ever, and I have been playing MMO's for over 15 years.

Seriously, the loading screens and lag this game has in 2018, you guys should be outright ashamed of yourselves not just as developers, but as people. IT IS DISGUSTING.

would changing the crates stop your raging? i doubt it. when they get to read posts like this over something so petty, it really makes them want to go out of their way to do things for people. as pointed out, it even specifies the type of crown crate. So yeh, it was pretty clear. Sure, changing them woulda been cool, but hey, we get exactly what we were told we'd get. Your hatred is unwarranted.

the fact that it specified the type of crate while that season was active, doesn't mean anything other then the crate from the currently active season was part of the rewards. which is why people have been asking oh, since pts whether its current season or specific crates only. and ZoS chose to stay silent until now.

now I'm not raging. I'm merely disappointed as much with myself for waiting to level the characters i actualy would have liked to play rather then stick them in a tomb to loot urns a few times a day as with ZoS for staying silent and indirectly encouraging pointless waiting. which is kinda the point. ZoS. please. timely communication! your players will be so much happier if you just answer questions sooner rather then later.

swippy

i agree. it definitely says "Flame Atronach Crown Crate" under the level rewards at every point, and never says "whatever the current season of Crown Crates is" at any point. i never had any doubt what the plan for that was. they even did that thing during New Life, where they offered previous seasons' crates as a test to make sure they knew how to automate code for the level rewards. it always seemed obvious.

to be clear, i'm not making fun of anybody who didn't put 2 and 2 together, and feeling sad is a legitimate emotion, but directing anger at a team for your misunderstanding is a bit outside of warranted.

Saturnana

Linaleah wrote: »

Juju_beans wrote: »

You guys are all upset but it's because you ASSUMED there would be new season crates.

The level up rewards didn't say "crown crate", they said "Flame Atronach crate".

we are upset because instead of telling us early on, they waited until now. and that quote above, from you? pure gold :P

How could they have shared the information any sooner than they already did, though? I mean, the level rewards clearly state 'fire atronach crate' and not '(current) crown crate'. People assumed they'd change up the level rewards if/when the crates change, but based on what? Previous experience? Rumours? Couldn't have been something ZOS said, because they were very clear in their initial communication.

Not that I wouldn't prefer the scalecaller crates over the atronach ones, mind you, but ZOS was crystal clear in mentioning what you'd be getting and when. Unfortunately a part of the player base made some assumptions, got an idea in their heads and ran with it. ZOS is just now coming out of the shadows to reaffirm what they've already said: fire atronach crates only. Don't blame them for that. Blame the people who made you think you'd be getting something else.

TelvanniWizard

Well, won´t start a new toon then. Flame atro crates were disappointing.

Sigma957

People should never ASSUME anything you know what they say about ass-u-me I was waiting to see if the crates changed with level rewards now that it doesnt as yet I might just go ahead and level them alts.

Bhaal5

Would like to add, the level up reward system is actually not bad, manly deconstruction stuff but a welcome addition.
Well done zos

Minyassa

I also would like to know why they aren't changing. This late in the season, people have bought what they wanted to get with gems from the crown crates, and counting on winning anything new that they haven't already got is like counting on a meteorite full of diamonds to land in your kitchen sink. There's really no benefit to Fire Atronach crates now.

Linaleah

lnsane wrote: »

Linaleah wrote: »

Juju_beans wrote: »

You guys are all upset but it's because you ASSUMED there would be new season crates.

The level up rewards didn't say "crown crate", they said "Flame Atronach crate".

we are upset because instead of telling us early on, they waited until now. and that quote above, from you? pure gold :P

How could they have shared the information any sooner than they already did, though? I mean, the level rewards clearly state 'fire atronach crate' and not '(current) crown crate'. People assumed they'd change up the level rewards if/when the crates change, but based on what? Previous experience? Rumours? Couldn't have been something ZOS said, because they were very clear in their initial communication.

Not that I wouldn't prefer the scalecaller crates over the atronach ones, mind you, but ZOS was crystal clear in mentioning what you'd be getting and when. Unfortunately a part of the player base made some assumptions, got an idea in their heads and ran with it. ZOS is just now coming out of the shadows to reaffirm what they've already said: fire atronach crates only. Don't blame them for that. Blame the people who made you think you'd be getting something else.

very easily, the same way they answered it in this thread, just... you know weeks ago.. the question asked over and over again was the same one asked in this thread - will the crates stay flame atro, or will they change with the crate seasons. Gina answered this question BEFORE season changed over. she could have given the same answer. weeks ago. why do some of you feel like its too much to ask?

and no the rewards listing is not clear, that's why so many people kept asking for verification and WAITING. because there was nothing sure or crystal clear about it.

Saturnana

Linaleah wrote: »

lnsane wrote: »

Linaleah wrote: »

Juju_beans wrote: »

You guys are all upset but it's because you ASSUMED there would be new season crates.

The level up rewards didn't say "crown crate", they said "Flame Atronach crate".

we are upset because instead of telling us early on, they waited until now. and that quote above, from you? pure gold :P

How could they have shared the information any sooner than they already did, though? I mean, the level rewards clearly state 'fire atronach crate' and not '(current) crown crate'. People assumed they'd change up the level rewards if/when the crates change, but based on what? Previous experience? Rumours? Couldn't have been something ZOS said, because they were very clear in their initial communication.

Not that I wouldn't prefer the scalecaller crates over the atronach ones, mind you, but ZOS was crystal clear in mentioning what you'd be getting and when. Unfortunately a part of the player base made some assumptions, got an idea in their heads and ran with it. ZOS is just now coming out of the shadows to reaffirm what they've already said: fire atronach crates only. Don't blame them for that. Blame the people who made you think you'd be getting something else.

very easily, the same way they answered it in this thread, just... you know weeks ago.. the question asked over and over again was the same one asked in this thread - will the crates stay flame atro, or will they change with the crate seasons. Gina answered this question BEFORE season changed over. she could have given the same answer. weeks ago. why do some of you feel like its too much to ask?

and no the rewards listing is not clear, that's why so many people kept asking for verification and WAITING. because there was nothing sure or crystal clear about it.

I don't think you completely get my point. Communicating any earlier than the patch notes in which they first(!) mentioned the level up rewards is physically impossible. That's what I mean when I ask how they possibly could've given that information sooner? They could not. And I'd say that asking ZOS the same question several times a day and expecting them to answer it every time (while they already put the answer out there) is too much to ask, yes. Since they've got a business to run and all. But that's my personal opinion.

Just to be clear, as there seem to be a lot of assumptions and miscommunications on this thread, I copied the below from the Update 17 patch notes:

Level 20: A costume of choice and a Fire Atronach Crown Crate
Level 30: 4,000 gold and a Fire Atronach Crown Crate
Level 50: 10,000 gold and a Fire Atronach Crown Crate

Could you please point out to me what it is that is unclear to you? Or what it is that gave you the idea that these rewards would change over time? It would really help me understand your point of view - and of those like minded - as I don't see how the above could mean anything else than exactly what it states: getting a fire atronach crate.

Linaleah

lnsane wrote: »

Linaleah wrote: »

lnsane wrote: »

Linaleah wrote: »

Juju_beans wrote: »

You guys are all upset but it's because you ASSUMED there would be new season crates.

The level up rewards didn't say "crown crate", they said "Flame Atronach crate".

we are upset because instead of telling us early on, they waited until now. and that quote above, from you? pure gold :P

How could they have shared the information any sooner than they already did, though? I mean, the level rewards clearly state 'fire atronach crate' and not '(current) crown crate'. People assumed they'd change up the level rewards if/when the crates change, but based on what? Previous experience? Rumours? Couldn't have been something ZOS said, because they were very clear in their initial communication.

Not that I wouldn't prefer the scalecaller crates over the atronach ones, mind you, but ZOS was crystal clear in mentioning what you'd be getting and when. Unfortunately a part of the player base made some assumptions, got an idea in their heads and ran with it. ZOS is just now coming out of the shadows to reaffirm what they've already said: fire atronach crates only. Don't blame them for that. Blame the people who made you think you'd be getting something else.

very easily, the same way they answered it in this thread, just... you know weeks ago.. the question asked over and over again was the same one asked in this thread - will the crates stay flame atro, or will they change with the crate seasons. Gina answered this question BEFORE season changed over. she could have given the same answer. weeks ago. why do some of you feel like its too much to ask?

and no the rewards listing is not clear, that's why so many people kept asking for verification and WAITING. because there was nothing sure or crystal clear about it.

I don't think you completely get my point. Communicating any earlier than the patch notes in which they first(!) mentioned the level up rewards is physically impossible. That's what I mean when I ask how they possibly could've given that information sooner? They could not. And I'd say that asking ZOS the same question several times a day and expecting them to answer it every time (while they already put the answer out there) is too much to ask, yes. Since they've got a business to run and all. But that's my personal opinion.

Just to be clear, as there seem to be a lot of assumptions and miscommunications on this thread, I copied the below from the Update 17 patch notes:

Level 20: A costume of choice and a Fire Atronach Crown Crate
Level 30: 4,000 gold and a Fire Atronach Crown Crate
Level 50: 10,000 gold and a Fire Atronach Crown Crate

Could you please point out to me what it is that is unclear to you? Or what it is that gave you the idea that these rewards would change over time? It would really help me understand your point of view - and of those like minded - as I don't see how the above could mean anything else than exactly what it states: getting a fire atronach crate.

no, you are not understanding. level up system was introduced weeks ago. so weeks ago people were asking this question. and the reason WHY we were asking this question becasue we wanted to know whether stating fire atronach was becasue at the time - that was an active season, or because those were there crates staying in rewards forever. there is NOTHING clear about it, when the crate in question is from a season currently active.

Gina answered the question. weeks later. BEFORE the season changed over. why couldn't that question be answered on or soon after the original patch that introduced level up adviser? NO one is asking them to answer before advisor existed, the question was asked and continued to be asked, AFTER adviser went LIVE. which makes it physicaly VERY possible for them to answer it.

the whole point is that we couldn't assume to be sure one way or another, which is why people kept asking.\

a lot of us waited to level BECAUSE it wasn't crystal clear. if i, personaly, had known that crates weren't changing (and that's the whole point, i didn't make ANY assumptions) - i wouldn't have waited to level.

why did they wait until now to answer this question? flame atronach crates btw are the current season for 2 more days, so they knew before seasons changed. why not answer the question when it was originally asked?

MakeMeUhSamich

Could someone please post the full list of Level-Up rewards? Thanks!

Ostacia

Crate Seasons change, that's why they're called "seasons." I completely understand why many of us thought the possibility existed that the reward crates would change when the season changed and thus, why so many asked about it for so long.

Feanor

Somebody asked for the full reward list. Here you go:

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/389074/leveling-rewards-full-list-by-levels/p1

MakeMeUhSamich

Feanor wrote: »

Somebody asked for the full reward list. Here you go:

https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/389074/leveling-rewards-full-list-by-levels/p1

That’s from the PTS. Is it, in fact, still accurate? Thanks!

Feanor

It is. But here is the excerpt from the patch notes.

Level Up Advisor
This new system is designed to teach new players about the many facets of combat and progression in ESO. It contains useful rewards for new and veteran players alike as you progress from levels 2-50, and every five levels, you will receive a milestone reward with something special such as a mount, Crown Crate, costume, or a helpful weapon. Simply open the Character UI to claim your rewards! Below, you’ll find the list of milestone rewards:
Level 5: Two Green-quality Rings, part of a basic 2-piece Item Set that grants a Max Health bonus
Level 10: Sorrel Horse
Level 15: A choice of 6 blue-quality weapons
Level 20: A costume of choice and a Fire Atronach Crown Crate
Level 25: A choice of 6 purple-quality weapons
Level 30: 4,000 gold and a Fire Atronach Crown Crate
Level 35: A choice of 10 purple-quality crafting-improvement materials
Level 40: 6,000 gold, The Prisoner’s Rags Outfit Style, and an Outfit Token
Level 45: An Undaunted Key
Level 50: 10,000 gold and a Fire Atronach Crown Crate

MakeMeUhSamich

Feanor wrote: »

It is. But here is the excerpt from the patch notes.

Level Up Advisor
This new system is designed to teach new players about the many facets of combat and progression in ESO. It contains useful rewards for new and veteran players alike as you progress from levels 2-50, and every five levels, you will receive a milestone reward with something special such as a mount, Crown Crate, costume, or a helpful weapon. Simply open the Character UI to claim your rewards! Below, you’ll find the list of milestone rewards:
Level 5: Two Green-quality Rings, part of a basic 2-piece Item Set that grants a Max Health bonus
Level 10: Sorrel Horse
Level 15: A choice of 6 blue-quality weapons
Level 20: A costume of choice and a Fire Atronach Crown Crate
Level 25: A choice of 6 purple-quality weapons
Level 30: 4,000 gold and a Fire Atronach Crown Crate
Level 35: A choice of 10 purple-quality crafting-improvement materials
Level 40: 6,000 gold, The Prisoner’s Rags Outfit Style, and an Outfit Token
Level 45: An Undaunted Key
Level 50: 10,000 gold and a Fire Atronach Crown Crate

Thank you. So, there isn’t a housing storage chest included?

Feanor

MakeMeUhSamich wrote: »

Feanor wrote: »

It is. But here is the excerpt from the patch notes.

Level Up Advisor
This new system is designed to teach new players about the many facets of combat and progression in ESO. It contains useful rewards for new and veteran players alike as you progress from levels 2-50, and every five levels, you will receive a milestone reward with something special such as a mount, Crown Crate, costume, or a helpful weapon. Simply open the Character UI to claim your rewards! Below, you’ll find the list of milestone rewards:
Level 5: Two Green-quality Rings, part of a basic 2-piece Item Set that grants a Max Health bonus
Level 10: Sorrel Horse
Level 15: A choice of 6 blue-quality weapons
Level 20: A costume of choice and a Fire Atronach Crown Crate
Level 25: A choice of 6 purple-quality weapons
Level 30: 4,000 gold and a Fire Atronach Crown Crate
Level 35: A choice of 10 purple-quality crafting-improvement materials
Level 40: 6,000 gold, The Prisoner’s Rags Outfit Style, and an Outfit Token
Level 45: An Undaunted Key
Level 50: 10,000 gold and a Fire Atronach Crown Crate

Thank you. So, there isn’t a housing storage chest included?

There is. At level 18. I know because I got it. Apparently was omitted from the notes accidentally.

strangeradnd

MakeMeUhSamich wrote: »

Feanor wrote: »

It is. But here is the excerpt from the patch notes.

Level Up Advisor
This new system is designed to teach new players about the many facets of combat and progression in ESO. It contains useful rewards for new and veteran players alike as you progress from levels 2-50, and every five levels, you will receive a milestone reward with something special such as a mount, Crown Crate, costume, or a helpful weapon. Simply open the Character UI to claim your rewards! Below, you’ll find the list of milestone rewards:
Level 5: Two Green-quality Rings, part of a basic 2-piece Item Set that grants a Max Health bonus
Level 10: Sorrel Horse
Level 15: A choice of 6 blue-quality weapons
Level 20: A costume of choice and a Fire Atronach Crown Crate
Level 25: A choice of 6 purple-quality weapons
Level 30: 4,000 gold and a Fire Atronach Crown Crate
Level 35: A choice of 10 purple-quality crafting-improvement materials
Level 40: 6,000 gold, The Prisoner’s Rags Outfit Style, and an Outfit Token
Level 45: An Undaunted Key
Level 50: 10,000 gold and a Fire Atronach Crown Crate

Thank you. So, there isn’t a housing storage chest included?

At level 18 you get a 30 slot coffer.

MakeMeUhSamich

Thanks for the clarification!

Slick_007

Linaleah wrote: »

now I'm not raging. I'm merely disappointed as much with myself for waiting to level the characters i actualy would have liked to play

that was a poor assumption on your part. because to get the crates, if you've been reading the forums which i suspect you have, or levelled a character at all since lvl rewards came in , you'd know you actually have to accept the level reward. If you dont, you just continue playing without any of that levels bonuses. I played 3 levels without accepting anything.

Linaleah

Slick_007 wrote: »

Linaleah wrote: »

now I'm not raging. I'm merely disappointed as much with myself for waiting to level the characters i actualy would have liked to play

that was a poor assumption on your part. because to get the crates, if you've been reading the forums which i suspect you have, or levelled a character at all since lvl rewards came in , you'd know you actually have to accept the level reward. If you dont, you just continue playing without any of that levels bonuses. I played 3 levels without accepting anything.

again, i didn't assume anything aside from the fact that i didn't know whether rewards would change because ZoS didn't tell us one way or another. among other things i also didn't know if not accepting rewards would keep those rewards how I earned them or upgrade them before I accept them (which by the way also meant not accepting skill and attribute points which made playing just a bit too annoying for me, who is not some leet player that can one shot everything with one arm tied behind my back, blindfolded - i NEED those attribute points). I did level a new character post patch... enough to get the storage crate and then I set her aside, while also freezing leveling on other alts.

if we had been told instead of leaving us to guesswork limbo? things would have been different. there is NOTHING wrong with asking that these kind of questions are answered sooner rather then later.

and the irony here is all you people who are now blaming us for waiting? tend to be the same people who kept telling us to wait an see back then.

anitajoneb17_ESO

Linaleah wrote: »

and the irony here is all you people who are now blaming us for waiting? tend to be the same people who kept telling us to wait an see back then.

Have you lost something while waiting ? Do you get less now than what you would have got if you had opened those crates back then ? No. So why the uproar ?

Slick_007

Linaleah wrote: »

again, i didn't assume anything aside from the fact that i didn't know whether rewards would change because ZoS didn't tell us one way or another. among other things i also didn't know if not accepting rewards would keep those rewards how I earned them or upgrade them before I accept them (which by the way also meant not accepting skill and attribute points which made playing just a bit too annoying for me, who is not some leet player that can one shot everything with one arm tied behind my back, blindfolded - i NEED those attribute points). I did level a new character post patch... enough to get the storage crate and then I set her aside, while also freezing leveling on other alts.

if we had been told instead of leaving us to guesswork limbo? things would have been different. there is NOTHING wrong with asking that these kind of questions are answered sooner rather then later.

and the irony here is all you people who are now blaming us for waiting? tend to be the same people who kept telling us to wait an see back then.

1. you did assume. Plenty of things.
2. playing a couple levels without putting your character points in will not kill you. not even close.
3. They told you clearly in the patch notes. if it was changing each season they would have said 'crown crate' because otherwise they'd have to recode that every single crate season. it just doesnt make sense to do that.
4. blaming you for waiting? the only person who made that decision was you. there is no fault here. just a mistake on your part based on incorrect assumptions. You complained that you couldnt play your alt when there was literally nothing stopping you, except you.
5. I have not suggested there is anything wrong with asking. But going postal over it like you guys are doing is wrong. The information was there. Im sorry that you didnt find that clear enough. many people did. and trying to say this information was not out there is totally false.

we get that you're unhappy. Thats fine. But dont take it out on others because you assumed wrong.

Linaleah

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Linaleah wrote: »

and the irony here is all you people who are now blaming us for waiting? tend to be the same people who kept telling us to wait an see back then.

Have you lost something while waiting ? Do you get less now than what you would have got if you had opened those crates back then ? No. So why the uproar ?

yes. i lost time.
I could have been enjoying those characters all this time instead of sitting on them.

what i don't understand is why in a world do you keep defending ZoS keeping this information from us? why? why them not communicating is such a defensible thing? what exactly would they have lost if they had answered this question that btw was asked even while the level up adviser was STILL on pts.

Linaleah

Slick_007 wrote: »

Linaleah wrote: »

again, i didn't assume anything aside from the fact that i didn't know whether rewards would change because ZoS didn't tell us one way or another. among other things i also didn't know if not accepting rewards would keep those rewards how I earned them or upgrade them before I accept them (which by the way also meant not accepting skill and attribute points which made playing just a bit too annoying for me, who is not some leet player that can one shot everything with one arm tied behind my back, blindfolded - i NEED those attribute points). I did level a new character post patch... enough to get the storage crate and then I set her aside, while also freezing leveling on other alts.

if we had been told instead of leaving us to guesswork limbo? things would have been different. there is NOTHING wrong with asking that these kind of questions are answered sooner rather then later.

and the irony here is all you people who are now blaming us for waiting? tend to be the same people who kept telling us to wait an see back then.

1. you did assume. Plenty of things.
2. playing a couple levels without putting your character points in will not kill you. not even close.
3. They told you clearly in the patch notes. if it was changing each season they would have said 'crown crate' because otherwise they'd have to recode that every single crate season. it just doesnt make sense to do that.
4. blaming you for waiting? the only person who made that decision was you. there is no fault here. just a mistake on your part based on incorrect assumptions. You complained that you couldnt play your alt when there was literally nothing stopping you, except you.
5. I have not suggested there is anything wrong with asking. But going postal over it like you guys are doing is wrong. The information was there. Im sorry that you didnt find that clear enough. many people did. and trying to say this information was not out there is totally false.

we get that you're unhappy. Thats fine. But dont take it out on others because you assumed wrong.

where am i taking it out on others? ive been exceptionally polite, i personaly didn't insult anyone, i didn't insult ZoS, I have even admitted that I'm annoyed with myself as much as with this lack of information from ZoS.

I waited becasue i did NOT make assumptions. i waited becasue i was WAITING FOR A DEFINITIVE ANSWER FROM ZOS. this is the definition of NOT making assumptions.

and again, no there is absolutely NO definitive "its not changing with seasons". its a possibility which is why we have been asking for confirmation, but its NOT definitive until there is confirmation.

the only one here jumping on anyone's throat is you jumping on mine.

Dear ZoS. please. please attempt to answer these questions earlier other then later. thank you.

P.S. on attribute points. yes they make a difference to me. becasue yes i have played without distributing them before, and YES they made a HUGE difference because there weren't there to scale, yes even with just few levels. not to mention. not accepting those rewards doesn't guarantee that they would change with my level. for all i know - once you earn them even not accepting them - sets them. so had i done what you suggest? then i WOULD be making assumptions. ugg. its funny. I'm only mildly disappointed that ZoS chose to hold back the answers compared to my growing annoyance with you all arguing how its our fault for waiting for ZoS to answer. and becasue i AM starting to get annoyed - I bid you good day and bow out of this nonsense argument.

newtinmpls

Linaleah wrote: »

the fact that it specified the type of crate while that season was active, doesn't mean anything other then the crate from the currently active season was part of the rewards..

I would think that the use of a specific name, rather than "a crown crate" would be a huge clue.

I also would argue against changing the rewards with the seasons, it would just encourage abuse.