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Lethal Arrow Death Delay
regime211
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https://youtu.be/NCkISLAIx-k can we get a fix on this? I'm going to start saving videos of bugs, because I'm tired of some of the overlooked bugs in this game. 1
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Own✭✭✭✭This health desync was supposed to be fixed on the last incremental patch. When was this video made? It seems better since then, but still exists. I've been seeing much shorter death delays though.
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regime211✭✭✭✭✭
✭This health desync was supposed to be fixed on the last incremental patch. When was this video made? It seems better since then, but still exists. I've been seeing much shorter death delays though.
@ZOS_JessicaFolsom
I made this video today.1 -
Apache_Kid✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭That is the result of lag. It will be fixed when ZoS upgrades the servers.Edited by Apache_Kid on March 7, 2018 6:00AM0 -
UppGRAYxDD✭✭✭✭✭
✭Been this way since day 1, just be glad they fixed the camp hunter glitch..."Stendarr's mercy be upon you, for the vigil has none to spare."2 -
dotme✭✭✭✭✭
✭I'm not seeing the bug? Looks like two lethal arrows, one at 8 seconds into the video, and the next at 9 seconds - One second apart, which is the wind-up time for a bow sniper. Did you have food on? Because total health (blurry) seemed to be under 20k to start.
I run a bow/poison build and to put out that kind of damage on a bow I also have to be really squishy with very low sustain. Maybe I'm just mis-reading the video though. Still, good to see fellow EP Vivec players hard at work
BTW, not sure if any "health desync" bug has been fixed on PS4, since consoles don't get the same quantity of incremental patches as PC players.PS4NA0 -
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✭✭I'm not seeing the bug? Looks like two lethal arrows, one at 8 seconds into the video, and the next at 9 seconds - One second apart, which is the wind-up time for a bow sniper. Did you have food on? Because total health (blurry) seemed to be under 20k to start.
I run a bow/poison build and to put out that kind of damage on a bow I also have to be really squishy with very low sustain. Maybe I'm just mis-reading the video though. Still, good to see fellow EP Vivec players hard at work
BTW, not sure if any "health desync" bug has been fixed on PS4, since consoles don't get the same quantity of incremental patches as PC players.
You are not seeing the bug? Sure the part you described is fine. There are 2 arrow. They both hit him 1s apart. The 2nd was lethal (
). At that point he was supposed to lie dead, not move and be confused what is happening. Aaaand that is death delay. Edited by SodanTok on March 8, 2018 10:24PM0 -
ArgoCye✭✭✭✭can confirm this happens regularly on ps4 since patch. you get no indication that you are being hit until you are dead and then see in the recap 3 lethal arrows. it’s always 3 and always lethal arrow.0 -
ArgoCye✭✭✭✭oh, it’s not just lag. i rarely experienced this before the patch and only when the server was particularly overloaded - it is happening regularly now.0
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https://youtu.be/unglS8AhKng here's another one from my guild mate being snipe spammed. @ZOS_JessicaFolsom 0 -
dotme✭✭✭✭✭
✭That video is messed up. BTW, IMHO that's not being "snipe spammed", that's being hit with lethal arrow (snipe) once, followed by poison injection, two Damage Health DOTs from the first Lethal Arrow, followed by another poison injection, and another lethal arrow. Those attacks did not happen in an instant (from the attacker's point of view). It's normal rotation from the bow skill line.
I'm a bow build, and I have yet to discover any way to land multiple snipes on a target at once. But I'd be furious if I got hit with all that damage after respawning. Something's wrong with the game or that user's connection for that to happen. I agree it's BS for the target, and needs to be looked into.PS4NA0 -
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✭✭Move a long nothing to see here, I play a snipe build and would love this snipe glitch everyone goes on about , but yet to find it apart from in everyone's mind1 -
Apache_Kid✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭White wabbit wrote: »Move a long nothing to see here, I play a snipe build and would love this snipe glitch everyone goes on about , but yet to find it apart from in everyone's mind
It definitely happens. It has happened to me and I have killed other players with it. That being said its not an "exploit" that a player can choose to do. Sometimes when I am sitting on a wall spamming snipe on players on siege because I forgot my own counter-siege, I will have my snipes lag to where they hit the opponent all at once. I can't re-create it, seems to be an issue caused by lag/server delay. People are definitely not imagining it but its not an exploit that players are purposefully abusing.Edited by Apache_Kid on March 12, 2018 3:27PM0 -
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✭✭Apache_Kid wrote: »White wabbit wrote: »Move a long nothing to see here, I play a snipe build and would love this snipe glitch everyone goes on about , but yet to find it apart from in everyone's mind
It definitely happens. It has happened to me and I have killed other players with it. That being said its not an "exploit" that a player can choose to do. Sometimes when I am sitting on a wall spamming snipe on players on siege because I forgot my own counter-siege, I will have my snipes lag to where they hit the opponent all at once. I can't re-create it, seems to be an issue caused by lag/server delay. People are definitely not imagining it but its not an exploit that players are purposefully abusing.
Yes lag but until ZOS fix that there is nothing that can be done, no point in nerfing the skill as would be no point in running bow1 -
Gilvoth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭it's not lagg, it's not Health dysinc!
the system is trying to catch up mathematically with the speed of that macro.
never ceases to AMAZE me.
here we see Proof of macro and yet look at the comments defending it and claiming ...
"nothing here to see"
and
"just lag"
the Fact here remains that this is a MACRO!
and here we are showing Proof of it that it is ingame and being used in the open and being shown here publicly and also sent to devs and nothing is being done about it.
and by the way this is happening with ALL weapons and spells. NOT just the bow as seen here.
All weapons and Spells by people ingame.
Edited by Gilvoth on March 12, 2018 3:35PM0 -
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✭✭✭✭White wabbit wrote: »Apache_Kid wrote: »White wabbit wrote: »Move a long nothing to see here, I play a snipe build and would love this snipe glitch everyone goes on about , but yet to find it apart from in everyone's mind
It definitely happens. It has happened to me and I have killed other players with it. That being said its not an "exploit" that a player can choose to do. Sometimes when I am sitting on a wall spamming snipe on players on siege because I forgot my own counter-siege, I will have my snipes lag to where they hit the opponent all at once. I can't re-create it, seems to be an issue caused by lag/server delay. People are definitely not imagining it but its not an exploit that players are purposefully abusing.
Yes lag but until ZOS fix that there is nothing that can be done, no point in nerfing the skill as would be no point in running bow
I completely agree that nerfing the skill is not the solution whatsoever.0 -
White wabbit✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭dwemer_paleologist wrote: »never ceases to AMAZE me.
here we see Proof of macro and yet look at the comments defending it and claiming ...
"nothing here to see"
and
"just lag"
the Fact here remains that this is a MACRO!
and here we are showing Proof of it that it is ingame and being used in the open and being shown here publicly and also sent to devs and nothing is being done about it.
and by the way this is happening with ALL weapons and spells. NOT just the bow as seen here.
All weapons and Spells by people ingame.
Can you macro on a console0 -
Apache_Kid✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭dwemer_paleologist wrote: »never ceases to AMAZE me.
here we see Proof of macro and yet look at the comments defending it and claiming ...
"nothing here to see"
and
"just lag"
the Fact here remains that this is a MACRO!
and here we are showing Proof of it that it is ingame and being used in the open and being shown here publicly and also sent to devs and nothing is being done about it.
and by the way this is happening with ALL weapons and spells. NOT just the bow as seen here.
All weapons and Spells by people ingame.
It's not macro.
I've done it to players on Xbox with no special modded controller or console or anything. It was a total accident as it is unable to be re-created. I have tried.0 -
Gilvoth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭it's not lagg, it's not Health dysinc!
the system is trying to catch up mathematically with the speed of that macro.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Seen on Xbox also. And words spreading as many peeps running it nowXbox One | EU | EP
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Gilvoth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭White wabbit wrote: »dwemer_paleologist wrote: »never ceases to AMAZE me.
here we see Proof of macro and yet look at the comments defending it and claiming ...
"nothing here to see"
and
"just lag"
the Fact here remains that this is a MACRO!
and here we are showing Proof of it that it is ingame and being used in the open and being shown here publicly and also sent to devs and nothing is being done about it.
and by the way this is happening with ALL weapons and spells. NOT just the bow as seen here.
All weapons and Spells by people ingame.
Can you macro on a console
todd howard proved we can bring add-ons to console as well as viruses and macros.0 -
Apache_Kid✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭dwemer_paleologist wrote: »White wabbit wrote: »dwemer_paleologist wrote: »never ceases to AMAZE me.
here we see Proof of macro and yet look at the comments defending it and claiming ...
"nothing here to see"
and
"just lag"
the Fact here remains that this is a MACRO!
and here we are showing Proof of it that it is ingame and being used in the open and being shown here publicly and also sent to devs and nothing is being done about it.
and by the way this is happening with ALL weapons and spells. NOT just the bow as seen here.
All weapons and Spells by people ingame.
Can you macro on a console
todd howard proved we can bring add-ons to console as well as viruses and macros.
Ok but how am I able to do it without any add-ons, macros, or "viruses" on console?0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Apache_Kid wrote: »dwemer_paleologist wrote: »White wabbit wrote: »dwemer_paleologist wrote: »never ceases to AMAZE me.
here we see Proof of macro and yet look at the comments defending it and claiming ...
"nothing here to see"
and
"just lag"
the Fact here remains that this is a MACRO!
and here we are showing Proof of it that it is ingame and being used in the open and being shown here publicly and also sent to devs and nothing is being done about it.
and by the way this is happening with ALL weapons and spells. NOT just the bow as seen here.
All weapons and Spells by people ingame.
Can you macro on a console
todd howard proved we can bring add-ons to console as well as viruses and macros.
Ok but how am I able to do it without any add-ons, macros, or "viruses" on console?
memory card1 -
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✭✭✭✭dwemer_paleologist wrote: »Apache_Kid wrote: »dwemer_paleologist wrote: »White wabbit wrote: »dwemer_paleologist wrote: »never ceases to AMAZE me.
here we see Proof of macro and yet look at the comments defending it and claiming ...
"nothing here to see"
and
"just lag"
the Fact here remains that this is a MACRO!
and here we are showing Proof of it that it is ingame and being used in the open and being shown here publicly and also sent to devs and nothing is being done about it.
and by the way this is happening with ALL weapons and spells. NOT just the bow as seen here.
All weapons and Spells by people ingame.
Can you macro on a console
todd howard proved we can bring add-ons to console as well as viruses and macros.
Ok but how am I able to do it without any add-ons, macros, or "viruses" on console?
memory card
Sweet troll. Go to another thread please and let the adults discuss.0 -
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✭✭Apache_Kid wrote: »dwemer_paleologist wrote: »Apache_Kid wrote: »dwemer_paleologist wrote: »White wabbit wrote: »dwemer_paleologist wrote: »never ceases to AMAZE me.
here we see Proof of macro and yet look at the comments defending it and claiming ...
"nothing here to see"
and
"just lag"
the Fact here remains that this is a MACRO!
and here we are showing Proof of it that it is ingame and being used in the open and being shown here publicly and also sent to devs and nothing is being done about it.
and by the way this is happening with ALL weapons and spells. NOT just the bow as seen here.
All weapons and Spells by people ingame.
Can you macro on a console
todd howard proved we can bring add-ons to console as well as viruses and macros.
Ok but how am I able to do it without any add-ons, macros, or "viruses" on console?
memory card
Sweet troll. Go to another thread please and let the adults discuss.
Cheers was about to say something similar0 -
dotme✭✭✭✭✭
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The death recap shows enemy player damage, but if you freeze the video after death at 21 seconds, you'll notice that the top right corner warns "your equipped items have lost durability", and the bottom of the screen allows the dead player to use a soul gem to respawn, or use a wayshrine - both hallmarks of a death-by-NPC or fall damage.
That's why I said the video is messed up. That recap could just be plain wrong and not the cause of death at all. Player's client wouldn't allow use of a gem or wayshrine if it thought death occurred as a result of enemy fire. I would guess this is a client sync issue, not some nefarious act on the part of the attacker.
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✭✭✭✭✭we are showing proof that a macro exists, we are talking about it and placing it in the proper forum catagory listed under bugs.
we discuss it and put it in video form as well as screen shots and send to devs.
it is against the forum rules to claim someone is a troll, in addition to that, defending the obvious use of cheats, exploits and macros as if it was allowed to be used ingame.0 -
White wabbit✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭dwemer_paleologist wrote: »we are showing proof that a macro exists, we are talking about it and placing it in the proper forum catagory listed under bugs.
we discuss it and put it in video form as well as screen shots and send to devs.
it is against the forum rules to claim someone is a troll, in addition to that, defending the obvious use of cheats, exploits and macros as if it was allowed to be used ingame.
Sorry but how have you proved it your only guessing that is what is happening2 -
Apache_Kid✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭dwemer_paleologist wrote: »we are showing proof that a macro exists, we are talking about it and placing it in the proper forum catagory listed under bugs.
we discuss it and put it in video form as well as screen shots and send to devs.
it is against the forum rules to claim someone is a troll, in addition to that, defending the obvious use of cheats, exploits and macros as if it was allowed to be used ingame.
Get your tin-foil hat off for like 2 seconds and re-read all the different accounts in this thread. There is no cheat/macro here. I have bare-bones standard Xbox One X and controller and can re-create this glitch in instances of lag but cannot do it on command. There is no button/animation cancelling used as I have tried this MULTIPLE times to re-create it and am NOT using any macros or cheats. I wouldn't even know the first thing about getting these things onto my console and yet I have killed players with this glitch. I can hear the sounds glitching at the same time for me and see the player not react until the last snipe is about to land. This is no exploit or macro its a bug, most likely caused by lag, that ZoS needs to fix. That's it.1 -
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✭Apache_Kid wrote: »That is the result of lag. It will be fixed when ZoS upgrades the servers.
never gonna happen0