telvanni personality problem

Lynx7386

So telvanni magisters are supposed to be super powerful wizards that wield magics other mages don't even know exist.

So why then, when we do /juggleflame or /ritual or /doom, does the animation make it look like our character is struggling and having a hard time creating simple magelight?
I love the personality otherwise but it rubs me the wrong way that I look like I'm having to put so much effort into such a simple spell.

SilverIce58

Have you tried using the /read command?

xaraan

maybe it's not just a magelight... idk

Lynx7386

SilverIce58 wrote: »

Have you tried using the /read command?

Yes, and I do love that one, the others just don't quite fit.

Earrindo

i see it as since youre not actually just summoning flame, but something more pure, or complex than just flame, it takes more concentration

Lynx7386

Id just like to see something more like what you encounter during the quests for it. Like when magister gothram or whatever his name is levitates sun in shadow and then 'poofs' her out of his tower. That would've been a cool effect for ritual or doom - conjure up some object, levitate it, and poof it out of existence

SilverIce58

I'd actually loved to have seen the /doom emote do something like a lightning storm, /juggleflame like summon magic orbs around you (like a lot of them), and /ritual, well, I can't even think of something for that.

AjiBuster499

I think the "struggle" is just (from my experience doing the Telvanni questline in Vvardenfell and my *very small* knowledge of how Telvanni are) the character being a perfectionist and trying to do it exactly right. Think of it not as "This is a hard magelight to cast" but as "I keep fumbling *insert really small detail here that wouldn't actually affect the magelight other than maybe it has an extra pixel or two*, this should be a piece of cake! I bet it's the the air or something. Probably not the right composition of oxygen to carbon dioxide ratio."

Also it's probably not supposed to be a magelight but just a really really really fancy fire.

tl;dr The Telvanni personality with /juggleflame is not the character struggling to make a flimsy magelight; rather it's the character being stupid and trying to show off how many pixels of fancy fire he can produce.

Ratzkifal

You are forgetting that the Telvanni aren't very "flashy". They won't summon huge and impressive things just for show. I don't mind that they are failing to cast a "simple" spell, probably because it isn't one and they are trying to do more than just "get a light" or "juggle a flame".

SilverIce58

Ratzkifal wrote: »

You are forgetting that the Telvanni aren't very "flashy". They won't summon huge and impressive things just for show. I don't mind that they are failing to cast a "simple" spell, probably because it isn't one and they are trying to do more than just "get a light" or "juggle a flame".

That's true. While someone from say, the Mages Guild would see them casting a magelight, they'd think it's just that, but with the Telvanni it's probably something a lot more potent.

WakeYourGhost

It's likely Pure Magic Energy - and they are trying to harness, channel, and focus Magicka in it's rawest form.
It might even be "Pure Aetheric Fire", difficult to grasp and near impossible for any common mage to control.

"Doom" is likely an excessive use of the power in a less controlled form
"Juggle" is likely an attempt at perfecting the handling and manifestation of it.

Even a Master has things to learn - And the Telvanni aren't "Flashy" like some kind of common Magician. They are harnessing power that could destroy a simple Guild Sorcerer for even trying to draw on them... What would convince you that it's just a "simple mage light"?
It sounds like you've been corrupted by those overly pompous and often ostentatious N'wah from the Imperial Guilds, and the childishly flamboyant practices of that s'wit Galerion .

How do you ever expect to grasp the Teachings of the Telvanni with such a corrupted view of Magicka?

Lynx7386

WakeYourGhost wrote: »

It's likely Pure Magic Energy - and they are trying to harness, channel, and focus Magicka in it's rawest form.
It might even be "Pure Aetheric Fire", difficult to grasp and near impossible for any common mage to control.

"Doom" is likely an excessive use of the power in a less controlled form
"Juggle" is likely an attempt at perfecting the handling and manifestation of it.

Even a Master has things to learn - And the Telvanni aren't "Flashy" like some kind of common Magician. They are harnessing power that could destroy a simple Guild Sorcerer for even trying to draw on them... What would convince you that it's just a "simple mage light"?
It sounds like you've been corrupted by those overly pompous and often ostentatious N'wah from the Imperial Guilds, and the childishly flamboyant practices of that s'wit Galerion .

How do you ever expect to grasp the Teachings of the Telvanni with such a corrupted view of Magicka?

Im starting to think the telvanni are really just insecure and try to cover it with boisterous claims and lots of insults in their primitive language.

DoctorESO

Lynx7386 wrote: »

So telvanni magisters are supposed to be super powerful wizards that wield magics other mages don't even know exist.

So why then, when we do /juggleflame or /ritual or /doom, does the animation make it look like our character is struggling and having a hard time creating simple magelight?
I love the personality otherwise but it rubs me the wrong way that I look like I'm having to put so much effort into such a simple spell.

The personality does not actually make you a Telvanni Magister. It makes you a Telvanni Magister wanna-be who tries her/his best to act like one. Because your character is not a real Telvanni Magister, she/he struggles with creating a magelight.