Remove the battleground penalty when you get disconnected or finally fix the disconnecting issues!

Seraphayel

Title says it all.

It seems like you can't get rid of the permanent disconnects so don't punish players by giving them a penalty for "leaving battleground" on purpose.

Did several battlegrounds today and already got kicked out of three of them with 20m waiting time to be able to queue again.

The first time it was a usual dc. No lag just immediately disconnected.

The second one was a hardcore lag where the game didn't synchronize with the servers and after 20sec of waiting time the disconnect happened.

The third time it was a game error crashing to the home screen.

Playing on PS4 Pro with a good connection. Even switched from WLAN to LAN (guess what, nothing changed). So the problem is neither my PC nor my connection (the only dc I have is the usual 24h restart at 4 am).

Why am I punished for your fault, ZOS? I know not everybody on PS4 is experiencing disconnects but this is the single most annoying thing that lets me think about quitting ESO although I don't want to.

At least give us 2min of time to reconnect before you kick us out of battlegrounds and give the penalty!

Solariken

Agreed, that deserter penalty is totally asinine @ZOS_BrianWheeler

Apache_Kid

It's a catch 22 because if there was no deserter penalty people would leave matches constantly but when you have a game that crashes consistently and drops players to home/title screen it punishes the wrong players as well.

It's incredibly frustrating to be punished with a queue penalty when your game crashes completely agree.

Minno

Apache_Kid wrote: »

It's a catch 22 because if there was no deserter penalty people would leave matches constantly but when you have a game that crashes consistently and drops players to home/title screen it punishes the wrong players as well.

It's incredibly frustrating to be punished with a queue penalty when your game crashes completely agree.

If players are leaving BGs, there is a reason for them leaving.
If players are still quitting despite punishment in place, then BGs have issues that stem outside of the punishment mechanic and should be reviewed/changed.

For example, how many of you force a quit to escape a pre-made?
How many quit to escape a certain game mode just to get to 15 minutes of deathmatch?

Fix premade vs pug, make BG base game access, remove nCP entirely from the game, and lock BGs to 2 teams only (or redesign the game modes to support constant pvp between 3 teams). This would probably fix lots of issues to justify removing the penalty all together. You'll see more pop enter the ques as a result.

Seraphayel

So another disconnect during a battleground. 4x20min penalty today because of ZOS pathetic servers. Thanks for nothing.

@ZOS_GinaBruno
@ZOS_BillE
@ZOS_GaryA

Why don't you adress this issue?

Anethum

Joined deathmatch today, was killed on ~2d minute, and when resurected on base, immediatly died back from like a fall damage or strange explode, boom desintegrated. Res options was active like when u died in openworld, but wasn't react to buttons, and teammates coudn't res me also. Reloadui didn't helped also.
Then, in few minuts system kicked me and made a penalty 20 min. Perfect.

Upd: It can help to use /unstuck if u got such bug and dead without option to resurrect or be resurrected. /reloadui - dosn't help

Ardicer

This needs to be looked at. It hits me so much on xbox lately

NyassaV

still relevant after almost a year

Glockcoma725

Tell ya something else thats weird, I got killed so hard in BG's yesterday that I got a loading screen before spawn. A loading screen that lasted literally like 3 minutes. Couldn't help but hope my teammates didn't hate me after that

Maulkin

Glockcoma725 wrote: »

Tell ya something else thats weird, I got killed so hard in BG's yesterday that I got a loading screen before spawn. A loading screen that lasted literally like 3 minutes. Couldn't help but hope my teammates didn't hate me after that

Here's something that might help you feel better...

While you were in loading screen, your character had spawned at base. So what your teammates were seeing, was you sitting afk at base. Every time they died and respawned you'd be there, next to them, doing nothing but compounding their misery.

Hope that helps!

Apache_Kid

Minno wrote: »

Apache_Kid wrote: »

It's a catch 22 because if there was no deserter penalty people would leave matches constantly but when you have a game that crashes consistently and drops players to home/title screen it punishes the wrong players as well.

It's incredibly frustrating to be punished with a queue penalty when your game crashes completely agree.

If players are leaving BGs, there is a reason for them leaving.
If players are still quitting despite punishment in place, then BGs have issues that stem outside of the punishment mechanic and should be reviewed/changed.

For example, how many of you force a quit to escape a pre-made?
How many quit to escape a certain game mode just to get to 15 minutes of deathmatch?

Fix premade vs pug, make BG base game access, remove nCP entirely from the game, and lock BGs to 2 teams only (or redesign the game modes to support constant pvp between 3 teams). This would probably fix lots of issues to justify removing the penalty all together. You'll see more pop enter the ques as a result.

I have to disagree with like pretty much all of this.

I never quit a BGs match to escape a terrible Pug group. I can most of the time still get second place if it's an objective game mode by being sweaty and running to objectives.

If you're force-quitting to avoid going up against a group of people who queued together then you're a either a coward or a bad player or both.

"Pre-made versus Pug" doesn't need to be "fixed". People playing with their friends is not an issue that needs "fixing". I've stomped pre-mades with a Pug group and ive been stomped by pre-mades. It doesn't matter. If you seperate the queues and make one queue for pre-made groups and one for solo players, both sides would just end up playing the same people over and over again. Furthermore, sometimes it takes me multiple minutes to find a match with just the one single queue that we have. You cannot in any universe argue that adding a seperate queue for solo players only would make the ready checks proc faster. It just doesn't make any sense to claim that.

If we took BGs to only two teams the game would be less interesting. The 4 on 4 on 4 is a unique feature that I enjoy and it creates chaos and sometimes allows a less skilled group to capitalize on the objectives while the other two teams are fighting it out somewhere. Having BGs be limited to two teams would even further exasperate this "Issue" you think exists between pre-mades and Pugs.

Furthermore, BGs with CP enabled was absolutely terrible and caused me to quit playing them completely until this recent patch. CP allows tanks and perma-blocking builds to over-perform in objective game modes with them being able to hold on to relics and the like for the entire match without dying.

You and I could not possibly disagree more on the direction BGs needs to take. I think they are moving in the right direction. Literally the only thing you and i agree on is that BGs should be accessible with the base game.

Hotspot_Ninja

Just got meteor on my sorc. Excited to get into bg to test it out..... Crash mid loading screen and get 20 min penalty

CO_Gibbs

Some of the bugged respawn load screens have been long enough to disconnect me in the middle of the game and get the deserter debuff. GG ZOS.

BlissfulDeluge

pls address this

Blaqueflame

I am so sick of this! I have been DC'd from BG's about once every 3 matches, with an 18 min deserter penalty. It makes me not want to play BG's (which I love) or play the damn game at all. FIX.

@ZOS_GinaBruno
@ZOS_BillE
@ZOS_GaryA

CGPsaint

Glad that it isn't just me. I've had several disconnects from BGs that have resulted in 20 minute penalties, and even worse, I was dropped into 4 games today without enough players to start. The last one had 2 on my team, 1 on another team, and 4 on the remaining team. About 10 minutes into waiting, 2 people quit from the 4-man, leaving just 5 of us sitting around scratching our asses. I finally quit and was hit with the 20 minute penalty. Nothing like 30 wasted minutes on a broken game mode, that is part of an on-going event. I give Zenimax a solid D- for how they have handled the game lately, especially since it seems like the only thing that works consistently is the Crown Store.

EVELYN_WAUGH

Wow..... now I have to wait 17 minutes to queue again.... I didn't leave the game because I wanted to. I left the match because ESO crashed.... but I'm still penalized. You're telling me there is no way this can be addressed?

rumple9

Simple solution. People who leave early lose 5000 good or alliance points

BlissfulDeluge

This issue has yet to get a fix, so I'm pretty justified in performing necromancy on this thread.

Pls, pretty pls fix crashes in BGs or remove the penalty when you crash. Thnx.

BloodSkull_ESO

I've gone into them twice now both times my connection has literally been CUT to the game servers, it's not my end i log back in and i get a deserter penalty. this is the most *** patch to date to ever be released its like zos has no concept on how to fix sht