Which test dummy do you usually use in dps testing?

Tasear

boombazookajd

its the most accessible dummy for me, if there was a 6mil, I'd use that

Aerithone

6 mil for stamina dds and for sustain tests.
3 mil - for mag dds.

DeadlyRecluse

For testing gearing/specific skill damage numbers I like the precursor. And for practicing PvP burst timings. Obviously it's pretty trash for sustained DPS testing.

Ley

I don't have the patience to do multiple tests in a row on the 6mill dummy so I usually end up using the 3 mill.

Septimus_Magna

3mil dummy self-buffed. Sustain usually gets easier in group due to synergies etc.

VaranisArano

I used the 3 million because my DPS was too low to use a 6mill and not have it take forever. Then I found a rotation that actually works for me, and getting to use it on a 6 mil dummy and get the same DPS as on the 3 mil was a wonderful feeling.

Illurian

3 mil because it's the only one I have. I do plan on replacing it with the 6 mil dummy eventually.

Either way, dummy targets are just for practicing your rotation. The dummy parses people keep using to flex with really don't indicate much else than possessing muscle memory.

Oreyn_Bearclaw

I spend more time on the 3 million, that's for sure. I think the better answer is that I use a 3 million dummy for practicing and the 6 million dummy as a smell test for the build. Sustain is really the big difference here. If I can sustain the 6, then I know the build will work in trials. If your sustain is good and your rotation is consistent, you wont see a lot of difference between them. If you drastically alter your opening and execute phase, and finish your parse with no resources on the 3 mil, then you are going to see a huge difference when you step onto the 6 mil. That scenario is what people usually call a cheesed parse.

SirAndy

I got the 3 mil skeleton in my backyard and i use that for most of my testing.

If i need to do some more in-depth testing, i use the 6 mil at one of my guildies house ...

Runefang

Combat metrics displays your resource spend and regen. As long as the difference isn't major then why waste time on the 6m to check sustain.

Danksta

Runefang wrote: »

Combat metrics displays your resource spend and regen. As long as the difference isn't major then why waste time on the 6m to check sustain.

Because I sadly don't have access to combat metrics.

Runefang

Danksta wrote: »

Runefang wrote: »

Combat metrics displays your resource spend and regen. As long as the difference isn't major then why waste time on the 6m to check sustain.

Because I sadly don't have access to combat metrics.

Fair enough, although I'd still argue as long as you're ending the 3m dummy test with a decent amount of resource you're sustaining fine. Or you can end with low resource as long as the only thing that drained it that badly was a brief execute phase.

Kanar

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

I spend more time on the 3 million, that's for sure. I think the better answer is that I use a 3 million dummy for practicing and the 6 million dummy as a smell test for the build. Sustain is really the big difference here. If I can sustain the 6, then I know the build will work in trials. If your sustain is good and your rotation is consistent, you wont see a lot of difference between them. If you drastically alter your opening and execute phase, and finish your parse with no resources on the 3 mil, then you are going to see a huge difference when you step onto the 6 mil. That scenario is what people usually call a cheesed parse.

Maybe some people call that a "cheesed parse" but it's not. That expression would apply if you used sets, traits, mundus or skill loadouts that you actually would never use in a real boss fight.

What you mention is just a good player. Any stam/mag left in your bar when the boss dies is wasted dps. Best results would come from perfectly ending the fight with 0 resources, whether it's a 3 mil or 6 mil. Further, if you're not changing your rotation for execute then you're not getting the best damage.

SquareSausage

Kanar wrote: »

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

I spend more time on the 3 million, that's for sure. I think the better answer is that I use a 3 million dummy for practicing and the 6 million dummy as a smell test for the build. Sustain is really the big difference here. If I can sustain the 6, then I know the build will work in trials. If your sustain is good and your rotation is consistent, you wont see a lot of difference between them. If you drastically alter your opening and execute phase, and finish your parse with no resources on the 3 mil, then you are going to see a huge difference when you step onto the 6 mil. That scenario is what people usually call a cheesed parse.

That expression would apply if you used sets, traits, mundus or skill loadouts that you actually would never use in a real boss fight.

i disagree with the Mundus stone as being cheese, if I choose lover instead of apprentice on the dummy and cast ele drain myself those would be provided for me by healer/tank in trial with major breech, alksoh, crusher.
And when I'm in trial I take apprentice and recieve all the debuffs on boss by tank and healer then my DPS would surely go up. So I struggle how to see thats cheesing it.

ccfeeling

3M is ok ...

LunaOM

I use 3 mill when im just generally seeing how my dps is, and i usually do 1 25 mill or a 3 6 mills to actually test out different gear setups/*** like that.

Corpier

6 million. Your parse isn't worth *** if the crits are not consistent and you do not have to sustain as you would in real combat.

SaintSubwayy

6million dummy for solo tests, and the big zenturios for raid tests.

the 3mio dummy is just too weak and will die too fast if you have high dps. This results in build with which you can "nuke" the dummy and this gives you wrong DPS numbers.

6mio Dummy is kinda the sweetspot, where you have to sustain to some extend, but not too much. (like in trials, when you get orbs and synergies ect)

ValkynSketha

3mil for first time rotation, 6mil after that for sustain.

f047ys3v3n

I used to use the 6 for sustain but I don't have any sustain anymore and the 3 is plenty effective at showing me that and my resulting low dps. I know, get with the meta.... Cheat engine.

s7732425ub17_ESO

I have both the 3 and the 6. Usually, I will use the 6 to build ultimate on (because you always start a parse with ultimate!), and kill the 3 mil. But I mostly test builds with multiple heavy attacks each rotation, so sustain is not an issue.

The 3 mil dummy is good at showing that you have great gear and the correct CP allocation. The 6 mil dummy is great at showing that you actually have a working rotation.

Danksta

SquareSausage wrote: »

Kanar wrote: »

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

I spend more time on the 3 million, that's for sure. I think the better answer is that I use a 3 million dummy for practicing and the 6 million dummy as a smell test for the build. Sustain is really the big difference here. If I can sustain the 6, then I know the build will work in trials. If your sustain is good and your rotation is consistent, you wont see a lot of difference between them. If you drastically alter your opening and execute phase, and finish your parse with no resources on the 3 mil, then you are going to see a huge difference when you step onto the 6 mil. That scenario is what people usually call a cheesed parse.

That expression would apply if you used sets, traits, mundus or skill loadouts that you actually would never use in a real boss fight.

i disagree with the Mundus stone as being cheese, if I choose lover instead of apprentice on the dummy and cast ele drain myself those would be provided for me by healer/tank in trial with major breech, alksoh, crusher.
And when I'm in trial I take apprentice and recieve all the debuffs on boss by tank and healer then my DPS would surely go up. So I struggle how to see thats cheesing it.

Trying to simulate a raid parse then calling it a solo test sounds pretty cheesy to me.

DoctorESO

Who uses the precusor for a DPS parse? LOL!