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Wow...what a great update (from the standpoint of a Magicka Templar on ps4)

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I just want to take a moment to give a big thumbs up to the Devs for the improvements to this games PvP...

This is the best it has ever felt from my standpoint, and I see a lot of balance improvements that have made the game more enjoyable...

Now please note, I havent encountered Zaan or Cal Legacy yet, so I'm just going off of what I've experienced thus far...


Puncturing Sweeps:

The decision to widen this abilities AoE has made a big difference on my ability to make the Sweeps land on my opponent on a consistent basis...

Prior to the update "Bunny Hopping" was too effective at avoiding Sweeps; post update, I have been tearing Bunny Hopping opponents up who have attempted to use this tactic against me...


Invigorating Drain:

Pre update, this ability was only useful to Stun/Cancel against the better opponents as they'd immediately Bash you and interrupt the channel otherwise...

In effect, you could never use the ability as intended and Regen 15 Ult over 3 seconds...

Now, post update, as long as you have stun immunity, you can hold the channel the entire 3 seconds and regain Ult as originally intended (excellent, excellent, improvement Devs)...

In addition to that goodness, you now move faster during the channel, which makes it easier to maintain once it's connected on your target...


Destro Ult vs Devouring Swarm:

I feel that these two abilities are finally balanced against each other...

Destro Ult has a significantly higher tool tip as pertains damage output and has a longer duration...

Devouring Swarm is cheaper, heals you, and (this is very significant) has a larger AoE than Destro Ult now...

With Destro Ult having a smaller AoE than before makes a very significant difference on your ability to get away from the person using it against you, and that adds to the value of Devouring Swarm as you now have legit pro's and con's for both abilities when deciding which of these to slot...


All in all, I love what I see so far...

That might change once I experience the new Proc Sets, but at current, I'm a very happy customer...

Great job Devs! :)
Unyeilding Bias
PSN TheLordofMurder
PS4 NA
Magicka Templar
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The Combat Physician: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKaqUVm_8JE&t=142s
  • Trinity_Is_My_Name
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    I hope ZOS doesn't decide to patch the update on console as they just did on PC NA this past Monday, the 26th with an incremental patch. Here is one result of what that incremental patch did to Templars:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRrJZIwSBuI
    Edited by Trinity_Is_My_Name on March 1, 2018 12:49AM
  • TheDoomsdayMonster
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    I hope ZOS doesn't decide to patch the update on console as they just did on PC NA this past Monday, the 26th with an incremental patch. Here is one result of what that incremental patch did to Templars:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRrJZIwSBuI

    Oh my...

    Lets pray that they don't bring that broken code over to ps4...

    At current, my Sweeps work perfectly; we need that to never change...

    :)

    Unyeilding Bias
    PSN TheLordofMurder
    PS4 NA
    Magicka Templar
    DC
    The Combat Physician: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKaqUVm_8JE&t=142s
  • Trinity_Is_My_Name
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    I hope ZOS doesn't decide to patch the update on console as they just did on PC NA this past Monday, the 26th with an incremental patch. Here is one result of what that incremental patch did to Templars:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRrJZIwSBuI

    Oh my...

    Lets pray that they don't bring that broken code over to ps4...

    At current, my Sweeps work perfectly; we need that to never change...

    :)

    Agree. Everything was great until Monday's small patch. Now there are so many issues. Not just with Templars and I haven't heard or seen anything from ZOS about all these issues. The Templar problem is exactly what we had on the PTS testing Dragonbones DLC. They fixed it on the PTS and now for some reason they patched the bad code into the Live server this past Monday. What the heck!

    Good luck on PS4. Hope it stays as it is.
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    While you were testing Sweeps I guess you didn't notice that it is doing around 20% less damage to opponents in PvP?

    It hits like $%#! now. The red CP's are reducing the damage twice as much as they were pre-patch.
  • TheDoomsdayMonster
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    danno8 wrote: »
    While you were testing Sweeps I guess you didn't notice that it is doing around 20% less damage to opponents in PvP?

    It hits like $%#! now. The red CP's are reducing the damage twice as much as they were pre-patch.

    My Sweeps hit just as hard as they did pre-update...

    What platform do you play on @danno8?


    Edit: now I haven't paid attention to the damage numbers in PvP, but I've been melting people...
    Edited by TheDoomsdayMonster on March 1, 2018 1:02AM
    Unyeilding Bias
    PSN TheLordofMurder
    PS4 NA
    Magicka Templar
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    The Combat Physician: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKaqUVm_8JE&t=142s
  • Trinity_Is_My_Name
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    danno8 wrote: »
    While you were testing Sweeps I guess you didn't notice that it is doing around 20% less damage to opponents in PvP?

    It hits like $%#! now. The red CP's are reducing the damage twice as much as they were pre-patch.

    Yeah, that too. I think Dark Flare is also not working as it should. Damage is about 20% less all the time. So many issues now with Templars.
  • Trinity_Is_My_Name
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    danno8 wrote: »
    While you were testing Sweeps I guess you didn't notice that it is doing around 20% less damage to opponents in PvP?

    It hits like $%#! now. The red CP's are reducing the damage twice as much as they were pre-patch.

    My Sweeps hit just as hard as they did pre-update...

    What platform do you play on @danno8?

    I know these problems currently are on PC NA. Console I think is still OK.
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    PC.

    And the problem is well documented over in the PTS section under the "Fix Templar" thread.

    It was also confirmed to be present when released to live. No reason that console should be any different.
  • TheDoomsdayMonster
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    danno8 wrote: »
    PC.

    And the problem is well documented over in the PTS section under the "Fix Templar" thread.

    It was also confirmed to be present when released to live. No reason that console should be any different.

    Well, I haven't noticed any difference in my ability to kill in PvP with my Sweeps, but admittedly, I haven't been paying attention to the numbers either...

    I can say for certain that my PvE damage numbers are intact...

    Unyeilding Bias
    PSN TheLordofMurder
    PS4 NA
    Magicka Templar
    DC
    The Combat Physician: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKaqUVm_8JE&t=142s
  • TheDoomsdayMonster
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    danno8 wrote: »
    PC.

    And the problem is well documented over in the PTS section under the "Fix Templar" thread.

    It was also confirmed to be present when released to live. No reason that console should be any different.

    Ps4 code would be a bit different than PC code...wouldn't it?



    Unyeilding Bias
    PSN TheLordofMurder
    PS4 NA
    Magicka Templar
    DC
    The Combat Physician: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKaqUVm_8JE&t=142s
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    I hope ZOS doesn't decide to patch the update on console as they just did on PC NA this past Monday, the 26th with an incremental patch. Here is one result of what that incremental patch did to Templars:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRrJZIwSBuI

    It didn’t just screw with Templars but a lot of pvp aspects. However Templars seem to be particular odd. One BGs March I was getting jabbed out of thin air long after the temp had been taken out and respawned. Then they were killed once, and spent the rest of the match sliding around on the floor untargetable but fully able to kill people. PvP was pretty damn good for a while for all your sakes I hope they don’t do the same patch.
    Edited by Vapirko on March 1, 2018 1:09AM
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    danno8 wrote: »
    PC.

    And the problem is well documented over in the PTS section under the "Fix Templar" thread.

    It was also confirmed to be present when released to live. No reason that console should be any different.

    Ps4 code would be a bit different than PC code...wouldn't it?



    The code for the calculations should be identical. But unfortunately you can no longer prove it unless you have video of how they were before on the same build vs. a friend with an identical build after.
  • TheDoomsdayMonster
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    danno8 wrote: »
    danno8 wrote: »
    PC.

    And the problem is well documented over in the PTS section under the "Fix Templar" thread.

    It was also confirmed to be present when released to live. No reason that console should be any different.

    Ps4 code would be a bit different than PC code...wouldn't it?



    The code for the calculations should be identical. But unfortunately you can no longer prove it unless you have video of how they were before on the same build vs. a friend with an identical build after.

    Ah...

    Well we'll see what the future holds as pertains Sweeps on ps4, but at current, I can say that my ability to kill opponents has risen after the update due to the widened AoE of Sweeps, the improvements to my ability to use Invigorating Drain, and the removal of the AoE caps for Devouring Swarm...

    My character definitely feels more powerful than before...
    Edited by TheDoomsdayMonster on March 1, 2018 1:16AM
    Unyeilding Bias
    PSN TheLordofMurder
    PS4 NA
    Magicka Templar
    DC
    The Combat Physician: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKaqUVm_8JE&t=142s
  • TheDoomsdayMonster
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    Come to think about it, I didn't think ps4 received the small patch on Monday that the PC players did that was bug ridden...

    Maybe that's why I'm not experiencing problems on ps4...
    Unyeilding Bias
    PSN TheLordofMurder
    PS4 NA
    Magicka Templar
    DC
    The Combat Physician: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKaqUVm_8JE&t=142s
  • Trinity_Is_My_Name
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    Well ZOS?
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