WARNING! READ BEFORE YOU BUY THE NEW OUTFIT STATION!

Shardaxx

So I shelled out 500 writ vouchers on the new Outfit Station for my house, only to later discover my existing Dye Station (which only cost me 35 writ vouchers) functions EXACTLY the same! The new one is larger and looks different, but in terms of functionality its identical. Why would zenimax do such a thing??

So a warning for all, if you have a dye station in your house already, its been upgraded to an outfit station, and there's no point buying the new outfit station.

I've put in a ticket asking for a refund for my writ vouchers, I don't hold out much hope but its worth a shot.

joaaocaampos

Someone has not read the Patch Note...

DieAlteHexe

+1 awesome for the warning, not that you've encountered the problem.

Shardaxx

joaaocaampos wrote: »

Someone has not read the Patch Note...

I only had a quick flip through the class abilities, true. But I don't understand why the new outfit station is even in the game, or why its more than 10x more than it was previously to buy with precious writ vouchers. We shouldn't have to read all the patch notes to know this stuff, it simply shouldn't be in the game, or it should have informed me when I logged in that my dye station had changed to an outfit station.

Aaaanyway if I get anywhere with the refund I'll post here to let you guys know.

Marabornwingrion

You shouldn't get a refund because you were too lazy to read patch notes.

Elsonso

Astrid_V wrote: »

You shouldn't get a refund because you were too lazy to read patch notes.

Most won't read the patch notes. ZOS should not put things in the game like this without an in-game message.

Datolite

joaaocaampos wrote: »

Someone has not read the Patch Note...

C'mon man, how many of us miss important information in the wall of text patch notes they release every time? Have a bit of compassion, 500 writ vouchers is a hell of a waste and an easy refund for ZOS.

Aliyavana

Reading patch notes saves a lot of potential mistakes

DieAlteHexe

aliyavana wrote: »

Reading patch notes saves a lot of potential mistakes

Aye it does but mistakes happen. It's an understandable one to make and it was decent of him to post a warning.

srfrogg23

lordrichter wrote: »

Astrid_V wrote: »

You shouldn't get a refund because you were too lazy to read patch notes.

Most won't read the patch notes. ZOS should not put things in the game like this without an in-game message.

I agree. It’s a video game, not a job. Religiously reading the patch notes like they’re corporate policy memos should not be a requisite for understanding the basic functionality of high priced items in the game or changes to the functionality of other items.

The 500 writ station serves no purpose outside of being a cosmetic addition to the house, and it’s Zos’ job to make sure that’s clearly presented to the player.

Merlin13KAGL

So, you failed to read the patch notes, test your dye station based on intuition, ask in zone chat or guild chat, then came here to SCREAM your thread title to the masses?

Gratz on your second station. You got what you paid for.

ol_BANK_lo

It's sad that some people have so much time in their day that they can do everything they want, including reading every word of the Patch Notes. I agree, these aren't corporate policy memos. Chill. Why beat someone up over finding something off in the game. That's the whole purpose of the forums. I have seen some ridiculous things come through these forums. I don't think this is one of them.

Knootewoot

I never read patch notes. So thanks for the warning. Not that i would do any writs though.

ol_BANK_lo

Shardaxx wrote: »

So I shelled out 500 writ vouchers on the new Outfit Station for my house, only to later discover my existing Dye Station (which only cost me 35 writ vouchers) functions EXACTLY the same! The new one is larger and looks different, but in terms of functionality its identical. Why would zenimax do such a thing??

So a warning for all, if you have a dye station in your house already, its been upgraded to an outfit station, and there's no point buying the new outfit station.

I've put in a ticket asking for a refund for my writ vouchers, I don't hold out much hope but its worth a shot.

So, for the people that keep telling you to "read the patch notes", what would they have told you? Would they have said the 500 wri voucher version is exactly the same? Does the cheaper 35 voucher one still exist, or did they just up the price of the new ones and change the old ones?

Apache_Kid

The amount of entitled people on here who think that everyone has the time to go through every version of the patch notes with a fine tooth comb is actually hilarious. This was a deceptive thing to do 100%. The vast majority of players in ESO don't even belong to the forums let alone read every patch note.

Lots of posters on here exsist in a bubble where they think everyone spends as much time on the game and these forums as they do which just isn't the case.

ak_pvp

ZOS's secret plan is to reward those who buy an outfit station before a certain point with one free slot.

@ZOS_ginabruno

*Nudge nudge wink wink*

Prof_Bawbag

aliyavana wrote: »

Reading patch notes saves a lot of potential mistakes

Reading inane ToS also saves a lot of potential ballache, but who actually reads those things? Patch notes can be busy [snip] too. I looked at the cloth station and thought I'd hold off and was lucky enough to realise it did nothing that i couldn't already do with the other table.

[edited for profanity bypass]

danno8

[snip]

It is perfectly reasonable for any person to assume that a new 500 writ outfit station would be different than the old 35 writ dye station in functionality.

I did read the patch notes, so I knew the old dye stations were transformed into the new outfit stations. I find this change should be accompanied by at least a confirmation prompt warning that the new outfit station has the same functionality as the old dye station. This is just obvious to anyone who values the player experience.

[edited for flaming]

Anrose

Research before you buy. Same in game as it is IRL.

In addition to patch notes, this was also explained in at least one website article as well as ESO Live.

resdayn00

While I do agree that the 500 writ price tag is nonsense for a visual upgrade, the fact that dye stations have been improved to function exactly like outfit stations has been clarified multiple times. It has been mentioned in the patch notes, on the forums, in ESO Live streams, and also in the in-game description of the item. You also could’ve visited your own dye station and realize that it’s been updated function-wise. I’m sorry to disappoint you, but after weeks of the fact being public before its final implementation, I can’t see any valid excuse as to why you missed it apart from not paying attention/not caring. Patch notes are there to inform you about every change they make to the game, and you’re constantly reminded to read them. I understand that some people don’t like reading them, but that’s not an excuse in your case.

sudaki_eso

Hmm, i cant really say where i stand on this, not reading the patch notes before a major update in an mmorpg is not very smart but i get it that not everyone has the time and patience to read through it. On the other side, it was not only in the patch notes, there was a news about the outfit system a month ago: https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/26295

Merlin13KAGL

BANK_IT_HERE wrote: »

It's sad that some people have so much time in their day that they can do everything they want, including reading every word of the Patch Notes. I agree, these aren't corporate policy memos. Chill. Why beat someone up over finding something off in the game.

How much time does it take to skim the patchnotes, then read the detail on any part your think might affect your gameplay? Guessing it takes about as much time as it did to read this thread?

How much time does it take to obtain 500 writ vouchers? Considering the cost of each, it would have been worth a quick glance.

That's the whole purpose of the forums. I have seen some ridiculous things come through these forums. I don't think this is one of them.

Which ironically is the location of the patch notes?

danno8 wrote: »

[snip]

It is perfectly reasonable for any person to assume that a new 500 writ outfit station would be different than the old 35 writ dye station in functionality.

I did read the patch notes, so I knew the old dye stations were transformed into the new outfit stations. I find this change should be accompanied by at least a confirmation prompt warning that the new outfit station has the same functionality as the old dye station. This is just obvious to anyone who values the player experience.

Is it tragic (overstated, to be sure) in a way? Sure.

Was it avoidable? Absolutely.

There were a handful of other ways it could have been learned about before the purchase. Clearly the OP knew enough about the patch to know it was even a feature.

[edited to remove quote]

NewBlacksmurf

Shardaxx wrote: »

joaaocaampos wrote: »

Someone has not read the Patch Note...

I only had a quick flip through the class abilities, true. But I don't understand why the new outfit station is even in the game, or why its more than 10x more than it was previously to buy with precious writ vouchers. We shouldn't have to read all the patch notes to know this stuff, it simply shouldn't be in the game, or it should have informed me when I logged in that my dye station had changed to an outfit station.

Aaaanyway if I get anywhere with the refund I'll post here to let you guys know.

Some would say ZOS is taking advantage of people who don’t read but who are willing to buy crowns for X and Y.

Others would argue it’s the customers fault.

Kinda makes you wonder about the companies ethics and why are we still buying crowns whether it’s a sub or direct purchase.

Merlin13KAGL

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Shardaxx wrote: »

joaaocaampos wrote: »

Someone has not read the Patch Note...

I only had a quick flip through the class abilities, true. But I don't understand why the new outfit station is even in the game, or why its more than 10x more than it was previously to buy with precious writ vouchers. We shouldn't have to read all the patch notes to know this stuff, it simply shouldn't be in the game, or it should have informed me when I logged in that my dye station had changed to an outfit station.

Aaaanyway if I get anywhere with the refund I'll post here to let you guys know.

Some would say ZOS is taking advantage of people who don’t read but who are willing to buy crowns for X and Y.

Others would argue it’s the customers fault.

Kinda makes you wonder about the companies ethics and why are we still buying crowns whether it’s a sub or direct purchase.

A third argument could be that they gave the old dye station the upgraded functionality as a courtesy to those that already have it, something they didn't have to do. They could have opted to make everyone pay the cost for the Outfit stations, but they didn't.

Juju_beans

Lesson learned I hope. Next time..read the patch notes.

Kuramas9tails

Even if you didn't read the patch notes, you didn't watch PTS players, PC players nor watched any ESO official videos explaining this change. They covered this dye station in a video and explained it.

Stopnaggin

datoliteb16_ESO wrote: »

joaaocaampos wrote: »

Someone has not read the Patch Note...

C'mon man, how many of us miss important information in the wall of text patch notes they release every time? Have a bit of compassion, 500 writ vouchers is a hell of a waste and an easy refund for ZOS.

Considering there was an entire post about how this was going to work and how much it was wanted in the game, I would say most people already knew how it was going to work.

It sucks for the buyer but the information was readily available.

Taleof2Cities

If ZOS said tomorrow is the last day of the game in a patch note ... would anyone read it?

Stopnaggin

DieAlteHexe wrote: »

aliyavana wrote: »

Reading patch notes saves a lot of potential mistakes

Aye it does but mistakes happen. It's an understandable one to make and it was decent of him to post a warning.

A warning to who? If they read this then they should have read the patch notes. Seeing as how this was a major part of the update most people bothered to find out about it.

In the time it took to post this he could have had the information to make a decision.

MajesticHaruki

Just a reminder patch notes are not Terms and Conditions that you simply check them and proceed. Gina and Jessica actually WROTE them for YOU to READ!

Apache_Kid

MajesticHaruki wrote: »

Just a reminder patch notes are not Terms and Conditions that you simply check them and proceed. Gina and Jessica actually WROTE them for YOU to READ!

Did you know that the majority of players in this game do not even know that ZoS releases patch notes? They aren't even on the forums. They don't even know things like "ESO Live" exsist. Some people's only free-time is spent playing the game and they dont have the time to go digging for information in each installment of patch notes like the hardest of the hardcore player. Get out of your bubble.