Nightblade cloak

Skander

Change:

Dark cloak: No longer gives minor protection, immunity on snares while active.

I think this should be needed

Qbiken

Think it´s minor protection and not major.

lord.xantam

It never gave major protection, only minor

Feanor

Immunity on snares would obviously be a massive buff.

Vapirko

Id take that change

Datthaw

Funny thing is it HAD snare removal and it was nerfed to minor protection

Ragnarock41

Skander wrote: »

Change:

Dark cloak: No longer gives major protection, immunity on snares while active.

I think this should be needed

so that heavy armor stamblades can just take rally with zero sacrifice involved?

No. I don't think so.

NyassaV

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

Skander wrote: »

Change:

Dark cloak: No longer gives major protection, immunity on snares while active.

I think this should be needed

so that heavy armor stamblades can just take rally with zero sacrifice involved?

No. I don't think so.

Says the DK with the best healing in any armor weight.

Cloak used to do that and it'd be great if it still did. It would help it not get broken by ever bloody thing in the game

Feanor

Hollery wrote: »

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

Skander wrote: »

Change:

Dark cloak: No longer gives major protection, immunity on snares while active.

I think this should be needed

so that heavy armor stamblades can just take rally with zero sacrifice involved?

No. I don't think so.

Says the DK with the best healing in any armor weight.

Cloak used to do that and it'd be great if it still did. It would help it not get broken by ever bloody thing in the game

Yeah. Cloak just absolutely never works.

Fel wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLjL-OyMNYU&t=236s

If you mean snare removal on cloak as a serious suggestion I don’t know what to say.

Skander

Qbiken wrote: »

Think it´s minor protection and not major.

Yes, sorry. I'll fix it

Sky_WK

Just cloak into shuffle

Skander

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

Skander wrote: »

Change:

Dark cloak: No longer gives major protection, immunity on snares while active.

I think this should be needed

so that heavy armor stamblades can just take rally with zero sacrifice involved?

No. I don't think so.

Heavy stamblade won't have infinete cloacks, if they want to have some dmg. You go heavy with a stmablade to avoid using cloak

Skander

Sky_WK wrote: »

Just cloak into shuffle

You fail to see that. Shuffle. Is only available to medium users.

laksikus

Misform into cloak

Feanor

I think it’s funny. The current state of NB isn’t enough. No, threads are opened requesting even more buffs. So on magNB you want to

- have a plethora of HoTs running
- While being able to be snare immune with cloak
- And supreme kiting with shades

Practically the only time a NB would get killed if CCed. No other way to catch these then.

On stamNB you want

- Rally on top of Vigor
- While being able to cheaply purge snares
- And maintaining mobility and burst

And that’s not way over the top?

Ragnarock41

Hollery wrote: »

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

Skander wrote: »

Change:

Dark cloak: No longer gives major protection, immunity on snares while active.

I think this should be needed

so that heavy armor stamblades can just take rally with zero sacrifice involved?

No. I don't think so.

Says the DK with the best healing in any armor weight.

Cloak used to do that and it'd be great if it still did. It would help it not get broken by ever bloody thing in the game

That is the one and only thing stamDk has going for it, which is countered by defile meta.

But sure, go ahead, imply stamDK is OP if you want people to not take you seriously.

Koolio

As a MNB main we need some sort of downfall. Snares is just that. Overall snares need to be addressed but it would be a little too much to negate snares especially with cloak. Maybe put it of something not already strong.

JobooAGS

No need for this

Sav72

Asking for improvements to NB , will end up being a slap in the face....

NB is, and will always be, the step child of ESO.

Lets just be happy that Miats Hack was addressed, and we can actually, play our class as intended.

NyassaV

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

Hollery wrote: »

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

Skander wrote: »

Change:

Dark cloak: No longer gives major protection, immunity on snares while active.

I think this should be needed

so that heavy armor stamblades can just take rally with zero sacrifice involved?

No. I don't think so.

Says the DK with the best healing in any armor weight.

Cloak used to do that and it'd be great if it still did. It would help it not get broken by ever bloody thing in the game

That is the one and only thing stamDk has going for it, which is countered by defile meta.

But sure, go ahead, imply stamDK is OP if you want people to not take you seriously.

lel never said that... Point is there is scrafice. Most of the time when a stamblade cloaks they have like no magic and are desprately hitting that button to go into cloak. Using cloak to purge snares isn't very sustainable to stamblade AT all, though it would help magic a lot instead of dying every time you get pinned down. Sorcs can streak out even when snared. Can't kite much if my shade is 5 meters away

Feanor

Hollery wrote: »

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

Hollery wrote: »

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

Skander wrote: »

Change:

Dark cloak: No longer gives major protection, immunity on snares while active.

I think this should be needed

so that heavy armor stamblades can just take rally with zero sacrifice involved?

No. I don't think so.

Says the DK with the best healing in any armor weight.

Cloak used to do that and it'd be great if it still did. It would help it not get broken by ever bloody thing in the game

That is the one and only thing stamDk has going for it, which is countered by defile meta.

But sure, go ahead, imply stamDK is OP if you want people to not take you seriously.

lel never said that... Point is there is scrafice. Most of the time when a stamblade cloaks they have like no magic and are desprately hitting that button to go into cloak. Using cloak to purge snares isn't very sustainable to stamblade AT all, though it would help magic a lot instead of dying every time you get pinned down. Sorcs can streak out even when snared. Can't kite much if my shade is 5 meters away

Reply a non-NB player would get in that case: Nobody told you to run with base Magicka and stack 5k+ weapon damage instead. You made a choice. Git gud.

Ragnarock41

Hollery wrote: »

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

Hollery wrote: »

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

Skander wrote: »

Change:

Dark cloak: No longer gives major protection, immunity on snares while active.

I think this should be needed

so that heavy armor stamblades can just take rally with zero sacrifice involved?

No. I don't think so.

Says the DK with the best healing in any armor weight.

Cloak used to do that and it'd be great if it still did. It would help it not get broken by ever bloody thing in the game

That is the one and only thing stamDk has going for it, which is countered by defile meta.

But sure, go ahead, imply stamDK is OP if you want people to not take you seriously.

lel never said that... Point is there is scrafice. Most of the time when a stamblade cloaks they have like no magic and are desprately hitting that button to go into cloak. Using cloak to purge snares isn't very sustainable to stamblade AT all, though it would help magic a lot instead of dying every time you get pinned down. Sorcs can streak out even when snared. Can't kite much if my shade is 5 meters away

If you think cloak is weak and costs too much you can always try playing a super overpowered stam DK with tons of heals and %100 uptime on major mending. And we stamDks get 2000 base magicka regen obviously so Its so easy to keep spamming igneous shields.

Kuramas9tails

No.

Cloaking is a Nighblades biggest defense because we have no shield in our class. It's already been nerfed enough and broken at times. And it's ONLY an 8% reduction!

Stop asking for things to be nurfed!

NyassaV

Feanor wrote: »

Hollery wrote: »

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

Hollery wrote: »

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

Skander wrote: »

Change:

Dark cloak: No longer gives major protection, immunity on snares while active.

I think this should be needed

so that heavy armor stamblades can just take rally with zero sacrifice involved?

No. I don't think so.

Says the DK with the best healing in any armor weight.

Cloak used to do that and it'd be great if it still did. It would help it not get broken by ever bloody thing in the game

That is the one and only thing stamDk has going for it, which is countered by defile meta.

But sure, go ahead, imply stamDK is OP if you want people to not take you seriously.

lel never said that... Point is there is scrafice. Most of the time when a stamblade cloaks they have like no magic and are desprately hitting that button to go into cloak. Using cloak to purge snares isn't very sustainable to stamblade AT all, though it would help magic a lot instead of dying every time you get pinned down. Sorcs can streak out even when snared. Can't kite much if my shade is 5 meters away

Reply a non-NB player would get in that case: Nobody told you to run with base Magicka and stack 5k+ weapon damage instead. You made a choice. Git gud.

Even if you have some magic regen it still isn't very sustainable as a stamblade, which is fine, that is how it's meant to be. But for magicka NB it would be nice to have some snare removal without running Mist whih is expensive and all around pretty terrible.

Can all the ForumKnights go away please, you have some of the best ways to counter nightblades so if you are complaining it's a L2P issue most likely

Skander

I should add the disclaimer: I play only templar since i begun to play this game?

Feanor

Kuramas9tails wrote: »

No.

Cloaking is a Nighblades biggest defense because we have no shield in our class. It's already been nerfed enough and broken at times. And it's ONLY an 8% reduction!

Stop asking for things to be nurfed!

You are aware that the suggested change would be a huge buff instead of a nerf? Nightblades. They’re really good at the forum game. To them even huge buffs are somehow always nerfs.

ccfeeling

Cloak is op ? Really ?
It breaks a lot , nevermind , op is op

I really want a free class change token with all my achievement , I will pick DK

ak_pvp

Hollery wrote: »

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

Skander wrote: »

Change:

Dark cloak: No longer gives major protection, immunity on snares while active.

I think this should be needed

so that heavy armor stamblades can just take rally with zero sacrifice involved?

No. I don't think so.

Says the DK with the best healing in any armor weight.

Cloak used to do that and it'd be great if it still did. It would help it not get broken by ever bloody thing in the game

Kek. Igneous. Trash. Best of casting heal twice. 12% is nice, but temp/warden>DK. NB is the least in need of snare removal. Shade/cloak allows mobility fine. Don't blame the forumknights for wanting snare removal as well. DK has either to sacrifice burst for FM (Stam) or themselves for mist (No disengagement, stoms mag regen. Buggy as all hell.) If we have to rely on block which comes with its own inbuilt snare, we would like to have some immunity to all the others. (Reminder, worst mobility ESO.)

Juhasow

Stamblade in fight is taking far higher adventage of having cloak then mag nb. As for mag nb's I would like to see some skill synergise with cloak same way like dodge synergises with it. Nice option would be for Concelled weapon instead of having 25% more movement speed in cloak to have snare/immobilize removal and immunity while in cloak and maybe 1-2 seconds after leaving it. This way we're buffing only mag nb and if stam nb want this benefit he needs to sacrifice something. As for stam nb I would really like to see cloak having debuff that will make dodge roll cost debuff timer halted or even longer when someone is using cloak or atleast hp recovery cut by some percantage while in cloak.

Blobsky

ak_pvp wrote: »

Hollery wrote: »

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

Skander wrote: »

Change:

Dark cloak: No longer gives major protection, immunity on snares while active.

I think this should be needed

so that heavy armor stamblades can just take rally with zero sacrifice involved?

No. I don't think so.

Says the DK with the best healing in any armor weight.

Cloak used to do that and it'd be great if it still did. It would help it not get broken by ever bloody thing in the game

Kek. Igneous. Trash. Best of casting heal twice. 12% is nice, but temp/warden>DK. NB is the least in need of snare removal. Shade/cloak allows mobility fine. Don't blame the forumknights for wanting snare removal as well. DK has either to sacrifice burst for FM (Stam) or themselves for mist (No disengagement, stoms mag regen. Buggy as all hell.) If we have to rely on block which comes with its own inbuilt snare, we would like to have some immunity to all the others. (Reminder, worst mobility ESO.)

Idk what world you live in where you think cloaking whilst snared is possible. The exact same is true with image in that you have to manage to get away from the image in the first place. Personally id just like them to bin cloak for a different defence skill.

ak_pvp

Blobsky wrote: »

ak_pvp wrote: »

Hollery wrote: »

Ragnarock41 wrote: »

Skander wrote: »

Change:

Dark cloak: No longer gives major protection, immunity on snares while active.

I think this should be needed

so that heavy armor stamblades can just take rally with zero sacrifice involved?

No. I don't think so.

Says the DK with the best healing in any armor weight.

Cloak used to do that and it'd be great if it still did. It would help it not get broken by ever bloody thing in the game

Kek. Igneous. Trash. Best of casting heal twice. 12% is nice, but temp/warden>DK. NB is the least in need of snare removal. Shade/cloak allows mobility fine. Don't blame the forumknights for wanting snare removal as well. DK has either to sacrifice burst for FM (Stam) or themselves for mist (No disengagement, stoms mag regen. Buggy as all hell.) If we have to rely on block which comes with its own inbuilt snare, we would like to have some immunity to all the others. (Reminder, worst mobility ESO.)

Idk what world you live in where you think cloaking whilst snared is possible. The exact same is true with image in that you have to manage to get away from the image in the first place. Personally id just like them to bin cloak for a different defense skill.

Of course cloaking whilst snared isn't going to be as effective, that is the point of snares. But when used in tandem, shuffle, FM or mist works well because unless revealed you won't be resnared in the cloak.* And if you have a well set up shade, then you can deal with the snare another way.

*Its not like a Templar/DK which can be resnared straight as the mist runs out. (Or straight as you purge) thus a class with already good ways of dealing with mobility doesn't need another thing, let alone on cloak. As for binning cloak it'll never happen since its something that won't go over well, too far in to completely change the staple skill, they only just got it working.