What area of the game needs changes to make it less stale?

Vhozek
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In a recent poll I made, majority of people agreed the gameplay is stale. Now this is to see what people want the most. These options cover the big areas since stuff like fishing and decorating a home are not 100% in everyone's list.
Edited by Vhozek on February 27, 2018 1:32PM
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What area of the game needs changes to make it less stale? 78 votes

Weapons
3%
ADarkloreFerrumnCutemssorgatem 3 votes
Armor sets
2%
LeagueTrollVilniusNastavnik 2 votes
Skills and passives
14%
Doctor_ZeussaeowulfDemyciliangreyloxEmma_OverloadMilwaukeeScottPink_ViolinzSGT_Wolfe101stSeraphayelWraithlynNeyane 11 votes
PVE mechanics
2%
VhozekKatahdin 2 votes
PVE content (Events, delves, world bosses, etc;)
21%
MilvanDelgenttwnhnyFermianEnemy-of-ColdharbourCadburyakl77KaspyTasearMLGProPlayerFakeFoxSilverPawsMotherballArv_MorvisCharliff1966EngineeringElfPuppetShow 17 votes
PVP changes
21%
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Champion Point changes
6%
kongkimSarevoccSymposium56ak_pvpSirAxen 5 votes
All of the above
21%
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Nothing, the game is perfect
2%
Leyadamerus522 2 votes
I don't care
2%
Rebanotherme 2 votes
  • VaranisArano
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    I can't think of any changes that won't be subsumed into the daily grind and thus, in their turn, become stale again.

    Perhaps spellcrafting?
  • SydneyGrey
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    I don't think the gameplay is stale.
  • Vhozek
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    PVE mechanics
    By PVE mechanics, I mean stuff such as enemies bashing, blocking, rolling, healing, stunning, spotting sneaking players, and so on.
    𝗡𝗼𝘁 𝘀𝗼𝗿𝗿𝘆, 𝗺𝗼𝗱𝘀. 𝗙𝗿𝗲𝗲 𝗕𝗶𝗿𝗱 𝘄𝗮𝘀 𝗽𝗹𝗮𝘆𝗶𝗻𝗴.
  • Milvan
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    PVE content (Events, delves, world bosses, etc;)
    I do agree that they dumb down the game way too much to appeal to a much more casual audience and I would love to see some real and fun challenge (I remember back on 1T when even the "reworked" vanilla dungeons actually required a little bit of skill and to mind the mechanics, tho they nerfed it soo much that is braindead easy nowdays).

    Btw, people complains that the gameplay is stale tho never finished a dlc trial on veteran or hardmode, never acheived at least 40kdps on parses etc.

    For real, forum casual-scrolls-offlline-warriors-19k-dps-dummy-parses can be real annoying and frustating sometimes.

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  • efster
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    PVP changes
    PVP, but more specifically, Cyrodiil.

    I want to see things like tunnels into home keeps to recapture from within, or anything really that'll put an end to the endless pvdooring of back keeps. More capturable objectives that all factions can use strategically. Fewer types of siege but stronger siege overall. An end to sieging keeps from resource towers. More chokepoints on the map. IC sewers on a different queue. Penalties for PVDoor gameplay. etc etc
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  • Biro123
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    PVP changes
    PVP (ie cyrodiil)

    PVE content comes Every. Single. DLC.
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  • Katahdin
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    PVE mechanics
    Damage sponges, super high DPS checks and one shot mechanics are not interesting gameplay
    Beta tester November 2013
  • kylewwefan
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    All of the above
    The whole Vet thing is just out of whack. It needs a complete rework. Contrary to everything you read on these forums the general population I group with is far far below 30kDPS....even at CP 600+

    some things can be completed, but they are painfully slow. Others, you have no chance of completing. Either way it’s just not fun.

    Normal content is silly easy, but far better than dealing with Vet incompetence.

    Cyrodil. Lag lag lag...unusually long load screen.

    BattleGrounds? One OP premade group goes in and dominates the group finder pugs for 10 minutes. It’s sad.

    This whole setup of balancing PvP and PvE together will never work the way they’re going at it.

    It’s garbage. You have to completely re gear and respec each toon to perform decently at either. Trying to balance them together is make no sense.
  • Seraphayel
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    Skills and passives
    Skills and passives (and sets).

    Skills should come in Magicka and Stamina versions by default. Always your highest stat should account for your skills (weapon / spell damage). Stacking max Magicka or max Stamina shouldn't be mandatory.

    If they remove this restrictions the game will open up a lot.
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  • ak_pvp
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    Champion Point changes
    CHAMPION POINTS. SUCH A BIG OPPORTUNITY WASTED.

    Could be used for fancy new top "active" passives in likt the 10/30/75/120 ones. But nahhhhh. Statfest. And you know what happens with a statfest? They NERF EVERYTHING AS A RESULT.

    ZOS'S idea: CP will allow for new and interesting build and playstyles. What actually happens. The opposite. (Well, the top passives do, Exploiter was a gamechanger and unchained is good. But the majority is boring snoozeland blah.)

    AAAAHHHHH.

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  • twnhny
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    PVE content (Events, delves, world bosses, etc;)
    SOLO PvE content. Please. We need more solo content. And it doesn't have to be a new Maelstrom Arena. Just solo content. Or even something for two people.
  • Lynx7386
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  • Ley
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    Nothing, the game is perfect
    I don't actually think that the game is perfect but I find it far from being stale.
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  • greylox
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    Skills and passives
    Needs more variation, Stam dd especially stale. I'd like spell crafting, reworking of useless skills and more classes/skill lines.
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  • boombazookajd
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    All of the above
    They do a decent job at giving us new stuff every update or chapter. The whole fixing what isn't broken thing is annoying, for instance the off-balance changes.

    I think they need to go through some of the armor sets in this game, you know, the ones not a single soul uses because even complete newbies know that the set is trash even for overland content.

    I also think some of the dungeon bosses (looking at you FG and BC) could use a refresh, they are insanely easy. Even overland bosses are a cakewalk.

    Otherwise I think the game is pretty stable and if I get bored doing one thing, I can just go do something else. If I get bored with a stam character, I can roll my mag toons.

    All in all, it's hard to call the game stale.

    Besides, by reading a few of the datelined Summerset chapter posts, something big is coming that will change (break) the game. So I guess we can just wait to see!
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  • knaveofengland
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    All of the above
    the game in general is a classic period, i would say it needs some tweaks , problem is these can take months and even then sometimes there is a trade off .

    only real probs i get is spending wads of time trying to find stuff in guild traders real downer this is .

    pledges for vetern dungeons trying to get a team 45 mins last night just gave up and went watched telly .

    trying to get sets of armour from dungeons with right traits real pain ,if there was a option to buy for crowns or convert for crowns i would just pay it .

    gets kinda boring playing solo most of the time since this is a mmo .

    i dont mind the quests been doing them all on 1 toon , some nice story lines , after all if you playes the series then you know the storyline is important .

    things i would love is hireable henchies , containers to fit complete sets of armour weapons . and basic builds for set levles all classes put and pinned on the forum

    wish you all well


  • VDoom1
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    All of the above
    All of the above, yeaaah. Hard to pick just one of those. If I had to pick just one, hmm. PvP has enough attention, everyone wants Cyrodiil improved. So I'm gonna go with PvE. Just general improvement. Wouldn't mind more events, what is it 4 a year? Seems a bit low.
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  • LeagueTroll
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    Armor sets
    Milvan wrote: »
    I do agree that they dumb down the game way too much to appeal to a much more casual audience and I would love to see some real and fun challenge (I remember back on 1T when even the "reworked" vanilla dungeons actually required a little bit of skill and to mind the mechanics, tho they nerfed it soo much that is braindead easy nowdays).

    Btw, people complains that the gameplay is stale tho never finished a dlc trial on veteran or hardmode, never acheived at least 40kdps on parses etc.

    For real, forum casual-scrolls-offlline-warriors-19k-dps-dummy-parses can be real annoying and frustating sometimes.

    Good thing u call them out.
  • LeagueTroll
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    Armor sets
    Armor sets, too many garbage sets, too little variation.
    Need more basic sets that gives things like 5% less dmg from players, 20% less dmg from siege and npc.
    For pve, we need 129*1.5 weapon dmg on dual wield skills, 129*1.5 spell dmg on class skills, 3% healing done with resto skills.
    But ofc zos will prolly just make game more unbalanced.
  • aeowulf
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    Skills and passives
    Skills & Passives.

    I'm getting bored of only seeing DK/Warden(& a few templars) tanks in vet finder, i'm getting bored of only seeing templar/warden healers in vet finder. It makes the content very samey. I don't think i've ever seen a DK healer for example, there are huge holes in class/role combinations that should be filled. In the case of DK healer, 1/3 the class is 'lost' due to imbalance or that combo being inaccessible to newer players. Whilst those with experience will generally go the meta route as they want to get the content complete.

    I'd also like to see gear procs not get boosted by stats/cp, it's got to be a nightmare to balance. For example a set which has an effect over time (say minor heroism whilst in combat) does not get boosted by cp, but one that procs a dot, does. The former might be better at low cp, whilst the latter better at higher cp. A balance nightmare. Sets work the opposite of diminishing returns right now, and stacking complimentary sets can result in the huge dps numbers we see these days. I'd like to see sets reworked to boost cp skills, say +5 to hardy, +12 to elemental defender, that kinda thing. Then sets come firmly under diminishing returns and can provide a lot more variation than we currently see. Same for stats. Might lessen the gap between an experienced 50k+ dps character and a 9k newby.
  • Tasear
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    PVE content (Events, delves, world bosses, etc;)
    I would be interested in having repeateding quests in different areas. Like win chicken or seeds for house.
  • MLGProPlayer
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    PvE content.

    An easy fix would be to add a vet mode to all instanced content (like delves and public dungeons). It's as easy as just cranking up the HP/armour and damage values of all mobs inside the instances.
  • FakeFox
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    PVE content (Events, delves, world bosses, etc;)
    Especially Dolmen deserve a rework. Those things are supposed to feel like a threat, however they are currently a complete joke.
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  • ofSunhold
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    PVP changes
    Cyrodiil needs a change. Not combat itself (necessarily) but some new things to do. Ring around the Imperial City is... yeah, stale. Really old crackers on a dusty plate in an unaired room stale.
    Classes that don't need any class ability nerfs: Nightblades, Dragonknights, Sorcs, Templars, Wardens.
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