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Bound aegis and bound armaments buff
Lord_Invel
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So basically this is a thread asking for a slight buff to mag sorc. I think it would be super cool if bound aegis was able to give you the 8 percent max magicka across the board while being slotted on one bar only. For example if I activate bound aegis on my overload bar and its only slotted on that bar I still get the 8 percent max magicka on all other bars as well without having bound slotted on my destro, resto bars. All other abilities that used to be double barred became toggled abilities except for the sorc class. This would give sorcs a lot more utility. But overall I think making bound aegis give active 8 percent max magicka while I activate it on any bar, I think would be super beneficial and unique.
@ZOS_Wrobel @ZOS_RichLambert
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VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I assumed that since its a summoned ability like the sorc pets, it has to be double barred.3 -
Lord_Invel✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »I assumed that since its a summoned ability like the sorc pets, it has to be double barred.
yeah but it would be nice if we didn't have to slot it on all bars to have the effect. It would make stam sorc stronger too and stam sorc is struggling a bit. Its not that good of a stam class compared to the others.0 -
Lord_Invel✭✭✭it would be cool if it had like a 30 to 35 second timer on it like power surge does
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antihero727✭✭✭✭✭Lord_Invel wrote: »So basically this is a thread asking for a slight buff to mag sorc. I think it would be super cool if bound aegis was able to give you the 8 percent max magicka across the board while being slotted on one bar only. For example if I activate bound aegis on my overload bar and its only slotted on that bar I still get the 8 percent max magicka on all other bars as well without having bound slotted on my destro, resto bars. All other abilities that used to be double barred became toggled abilities except for the sorc class. This would give sorcs a lot more utility. But overall I think making bound aegis give active 8 percent max magicka while I activate it on any bar, I think would be super beneficial and unique.
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Lord_Invel✭✭✭antihero727 wrote: »Lord_Invel wrote: »So basically this is a thread asking for a slight buff to mag sorc. I think it would be super cool if bound aegis was able to give you the 8 percent max magicka across the board while being slotted on one bar only. For example if I activate bound aegis on my overload bar and its only slotted on that bar I still get the 8 percent max magicka on all other bars as well without having bound slotted on my destro, resto bars. All other abilities that used to be double barred became toggled abilities except for the sorc class. This would give sorcs a lot more utility. But overall I think making bound aegis give active 8 percent max magicka while I activate it on any bar, I think would be super beneficial and unique.
@ZOS_Wrobel @ZOS_RichLambert
Lol they just patched this “feature” today if you read the patch notes.
what do you mean ? sorry I must have missed something lol2 -
VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭From the Patch notes: Bound Armor: Fixed an issue where this ability and its morphs could become stuck on your character.
If I recall correctly, that was a bug where you could swap out the Bound armor skills and still keep the armor, but that might be an old bug I'm thinking of.0 -
Lord_Invel✭✭✭VaranisArano wrote: »From the Patch notes: Bound Armor: Fixed an issue where this ability and its morphs could become stuck on your character.
If I recall correctly, that was a bug where you could swap out the Bound armor skills and still keep the armor, but that might be an old bug I'm thinking of.
well it would be nice if at least instead of equipping bound on all three bars zos can make it to where equipping it on one bar gives 8 percent max magicka on all bars as long as the buff is active.1 -
arkansas_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭Think that's meant to be the trade-off. Warden has to double slot Northern Storm to get the 8% magicka on both bars too,ＦＯＲＵＭＰＬＡＲ
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✭✭✭✭✭arkansas_ESO wrote: »Think that's meant to be the trade-off. Warden has to double slot Northern Storm to get the 8% magicka on both bars too,
It’s not about both bars. It’s about having to activate it again each bar swap if you want to have it on one bar only. The fun thing is NBs have the same 8% Max Magicka as a passive. Simply for slotting any Siphoner skill.
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✭✭✭I would give magsorc more burst but make that burst also avoidable. The class itself is tanky enough, there's no need for more shield strength. What the class needs is more killing potential, right now you will have a hard time to kill any decent player who doesn't suicide into mines (unless you play cheesy petbuilds).I used to think that PvP was a tragedy, but now I realize, it's a comedy.1 -
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✭arkansas_ESO wrote: »Think that's meant to be the trade-off. Warden has to double slot Northern Storm to get the 8% magicka on both bars too,
It’s not about both bars. It’s about having to activate it again each bar swap if you want to have it on one bar only. The fun thing is NBs have the same 8% Max Magicka as a passive. Simply for slotting any Siphoner skill.
NB also doesn't get a class shield to stack with Annulment, so it's a trade off between multiple shields (or in the case of warden, Living Trellis) or a single shield with a higher magicka pool.ＦＯＲＵＭＰＬＡＲ
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✭✭✭✭I don't agree, but it's refreshing seeing a "buff sorc" tread in a lake of "nerf sorc" ones
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✭Lord_Invel wrote: »So basically this is a thread asking for a slight buff to mag sorc. I think it would be super cool if bound aegis was able to give you the 8 percent max magicka across the board while being slotted on one bar only. For example if I activate bound aegis on my overload bar and its only slotted on that bar I still get the 8 percent max magicka on all other bars as well without having bound slotted on my destro, resto bars. All other abilities that used to be double barred became toggled abilities except for the sorc class. This would give sorcs a lot more utility. But overall I think making bound aegis give active 8 percent max magicka while I activate it on any bar, I think would be super beneficial and unique.
@ZOS_Wrobel @ZOS_RichLambert
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NO, NO
I run those abilities on my stamsorc and they are good the way they are
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✭✭✭✭✭Lord_Invel wrote: »So basically this is a thread asking for a slight buff to mag sorc. I think it would be super cool if bound aegis was able to give you the 8 percent max magicka across the board while being slotted on one bar only. For example if I activate bound aegis on my overload bar and its only slotted on that bar I still get the 8 percent max magicka on all other bars as well without having bound slotted on my destro, resto bars. All other abilities that used to be double barred became toggled abilities except for the sorc class. This would give sorcs a lot more utility. But overall I think making bound aegis give active 8 percent max magicka while I activate it on any bar, I think would be super beneficial and unique.
@ZOS_Wrobel @ZOS_RichLambert
Would be epic, asked for many times. No response
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✭✭✭✭✭Lord_Invel wrote: »So basically this is a thread asking for a slight buff to mag sorc. I think it would be super cool if bound aegis was able to give you the 8 percent max magicka across the board while being slotted on one bar only. For example if I activate bound aegis on my overload bar and its only slotted on that bar I still get the 8 percent max magicka on all other bars as well without having bound slotted on my destro, resto bars. All other abilities that used to be double barred became toggled abilities except for the sorc class. This would give sorcs a lot more utility. But overall I think making bound aegis give active 8 percent max magicka while I activate it on any bar, I think would be super beneficial and unique.
@ZOS_Wrobel @ZOS_RichLambert
Would be epic, asked for many times. No response other classes have ways to get the boost without wasting 3 skill slots.
Well, make that 2 skill slots, because no other class has a third skill bar through an ultimate...1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭arkansas_ESO wrote: »Think that's meant to be the trade-off. Warden has to double slot Northern Storm to get the 8% magicka on both bars too,
I would be fine if you could one bar it - but you have to activate it every time with a magica cost so it´s a lot worse than wardens northern storm or NB siphoning passive in that regard.
I´d rather see an active effect addet to bound armor than making it a pure buff skill.<Noricum>
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Lord_Invel✭✭✭Lord_Invel wrote: »So basically this is a thread asking for a slight buff to mag sorc. I think it would be super cool if bound aegis was able to give you the 8 percent max magicka across the board while being slotted on one bar only. For example if I activate bound aegis on my overload bar and its only slotted on that bar I still get the 8 percent max magicka on all other bars as well without having bound slotted on my destro, resto bars. All other abilities that used to be double barred became toggled abilities except for the sorc class. This would give sorcs a lot more utility. But overall I think making bound aegis give active 8 percent max magicka while I activate it on any bar, I think would be super beneficial and unique.
@ZOS_Wrobel @ZOS_RichLambert
NO
NO, NO
I run those abilities on my stamsorc and they are good the way they are
lmao why is it NO NO NO . If anything you will become stronger if you only have to slot it on one bar to get the full buff. That would give you 2 other free skill slots for more utility and generally becoming stronger.0 -
WrathOfInnos✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I would be onboard for it being passive like Inner Light, so it could be on front bar only, without having to activate it every bar swap (like Northern storm).
I would also support your idea of giving it a timer after cast do it could be slotted on back bar only. I think the duration you recommend is far too short though. The 8% max Magicka translates to roughly 3-4% DPS gain while active. This means that if you activate it every 25-33s (giving up 1/25 or 1/33 of your global cool downs) it is DPS neutral, and nobody wants to use a skill bar slot for something DPS neutral.
A one minute timer would be the minimum to be effective, resulting in approximately 2% net DPS increase from Bound Aegis. I would not even be opposed to a longer timer, since even infinite duration would only be a 3-4% DPS gain for anyone not currently using bound aegis (or one freed up skill slot for anyone that is using it already). A 2 minute duration (like meritorious service) might be a decent compromise.Edited by WrathOfInnos on February 28, 2018 3:54AM1 -
Biro123✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Lord_Invel wrote: »Lord_Invel wrote: »So basically this is a thread asking for a slight buff to mag sorc. I think it would be super cool if bound aegis was able to give you the 8 percent max magicka across the board while being slotted on one bar only. For example if I activate bound aegis on my overload bar and its only slotted on that bar I still get the 8 percent max magicka on all other bars as well without having bound slotted on my destro, resto bars. All other abilities that used to be double barred became toggled abilities except for the sorc class. This would give sorcs a lot more utility. But overall I think making bound aegis give active 8 percent max magicka while I activate it on any bar, I think would be super beneficial and unique.
@ZOS_Wrobel @ZOS_RichLambert
NO
NO, NO
I run those abilities on my stamsorc and they are good the way they are
lmao why is it NO NO NO . If anything you will become stronger if you only have to slot it on one bar to get the full buff. That would give you 2 other free skill slots for more utility and generally becoming stronger.
Its an awkward one for stamsorcs.. On its own, the ability really isn't worth it - but its the only summoning to give any kind of benefit to stamsorc - and therefore the only source of the stam/health recov passive. So if used it would still kind of be needed on both bars (but what stamsorc build can spare the space for what it does?)
I think that passive needs a re-work.. It's like.. 'Here's a great passive that's fantastic for stam builds, but pretty useless for mag builds.. but only mag builds can really get access to it'..!Edited by Biro123 on February 28, 2018 9:49AMMinalan owes me a beer.
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