Monster Sets for Healers...

Seraphayel

... does somebody have a full list or something like that? I tried to make one but I fear I missed out a bunch of sets in the end. My list contains:



Are there more? What 2p sets are used by most healers?

Illurian

Seraphayel wrote: »

What 2p sets are used by most healers?

Honest answer? None. Most healers use 2x 5 piece sets and 1x vMA Lightning Staff/Master Resto staff. If they don't have the staves yet, they usually use a 1 piece monster helm and a set staff.

Seraphayel

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Seraphayel wrote: »

What 2p sets are used by most healers?

Honest answer? None. Most healers use 2x 5 piece sets and 1x vMA Lightning Staff/Master Resto staff. If they don't have the staves yet, they usually use a 1 piece monster helm and a set staff.

Well that explains a lot haha. As a NB Healer I'd use Earthgore but all of the other sets are rather underwhelming imho.

Maura_Neysa

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Seraphayel wrote: »

What 2p sets are used by most healers?

Honest answer? None. Most healers use 2x 5 piece sets and 1x vMA Lightning Staff/Master Resto staff. If they don't have the staves yet, they usually use a 1 piece monster helm and a set staff.

Asylum resto is easy to farm, so stay with (2) 5 piece and no Monster

Tasear

It's not acceptable to some group of people to use them, but very popular at dungeon level. Though earthgore as been used in some vet trials for negating and help during burn phase. Back to dungeons earthgore, troll king and sometimes sentiental are popular. You will see others but proc chance or design is just bad.

Tasear

1 pieces are more popular such as asylum, master and malestrom lighting and sometimes resto.

Custos91

Earthgore is great if you learn a new boss with people it will save them and with that a lot of early wipes, which in turn means they learn more per pull.

Sentinel has outperformed my warden forest on the last boss on vSO once, so that is that. (Stam warden healer)
(rarely allowed to run anything besides horn...)

Troll king is bad to track, heard it is great if you have a group with races that have health regen bonuses like nord and Khajit (I use reviving barrier to procc it reliably over a looooooong time)

Chokethorn could be usefull for small scale pvp because the heal is insane. (heavy armor/any Sword and board builds can run it there)

Bogdan has never been used by anybody as far as I am aware xD

OrdoHermetica

I use Infernal Guardian to help out with DPS a little - Healing Ward is fantastic and I use it regularly, and with Infernal Guardian's 50% proc chance every time you cast a damage shield, it procs a lot. Plus the extra Magicka is nice.

If I need to be in full-on heal mode, though, I go two five-piece sets. Which sets in particular depends on circumstances.

Seraphayel

OrdoHermetica wrote: »

I use Infernal Guardian to help out with DPS a little - Healing Ward is fantastic and I use it regularly, and with Infernal Guardian's 50% proc chance every time you cast a damage shield, it procs a lot. Plus the extra Magicka is nice.

If I need to be in full-on heal mode, though, I go two five-piece sets. Which sets in particular depends on circumstances.

This sounds very interesting for a Shield based DK healer!

DoctorESO

Healers tend not to use these monster helm sets. They run two 5-piece support sets, such as Spell Power Cure, Worm's Raiment (well maybe not this one anymore given the nerf), and Mending/Healing Mage.

Tasear

So this had me thinking.

What is you place your aoe on one bar with mending and orbs/mutgen on another for spc up time then might be able to pull it off since spc has a ten sec uptime. Same to be said with synergy set twlight remedy. Depending how you use it might be able do with stendarr. Hmm, another one is Laminas song would easy with ultimate usage. Same could be said with innventor guard and master artectect. Service support set has a 2 min effect length so easy have do with. So Overall it's possible might take extreme rototation, diminish effects in some cases or used situational.

DoctorESO

Tasear wrote: »

So this had me thinking.

What is you place your aoe on one bar with mending and orbs/mutgen on another for spc up time then might be able to pull it off since spc has a ten sec uptime. Same to be said with synergy set twlight remedy. Depending how you use it might be able do with stendarr. Hmm, another one is Laminas song would easy with ultimate usage. Same could be said with innventor guard and master artectect. Service support set has a 2 min effect length so easy have do with. So Overall it's possible might take extreme rototation, diminish effects in some cases or used situational.

Yeah, I'd find bar swap too unreliable for that, personally.

Tasear

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Tasear wrote: »

So this had me thinking.

What is you place your aoe on one bar with mending and orbs/mutgen on another for spc up time then might be able to pull it off since spc has a ten sec uptime. Same to be said with synergy set twlight remedy. Depending how you use it might be able do with stendarr. Hmm, another one is Laminas song would easy with ultimate usage. Same could be said with innventor guard and master artectect. Service support set has a 2 min effect length so easy have do with. So Overall it's possible might take extreme rototation, diminish effects in some cases or used situational.

Yeah, I'd find bar swap too unreliable for that, personally.

Yeah, but I feel like might work with some of these sets.

Narvuntien

It is definitely workable.. the SPC buff has a duration so you can trigger it and bar swap to reapply it whenever you need it.
People just have the special resto staffs and its better to just use them.

Atm I have 1 pc ice heart for crit % but I really don't know what random shoulder piece to use. Should I be using spell power or mag or mag regen instead?

My opinion is that Sentinel is probably the best option if you were to use one, straight healing isn't really that useful, earthgore is really good in some situations (PVP), I have seen peoples maths on troll king and people need to have high health regen before its useful that is more common in PVP. Free stamina to your allies is good i'd use Sentinel.

The change to shadowrend makes it less useful for healers (unless you want to get yourself hit deliberately) but I think its underrated overall.

SydneyGrey

I'm waiting for the day when magicka characters get a dual-wield-type ability, so that they can run a full monster set AND two 5-piece sets. My healers want this BAD. A wand and rune would work for that (or two wands, I suppose).

Tasear

Narvuntien wrote: »

It is definitely workable.. the SPC buff has a duration so you can trigger it and bar swap to reapply it whenever you need it.
People just have the special resto staffs and its better to just use them.

Atm I have 1 pc ice heart for crit % but I really don't know what random shoulder piece to use. Should I be using spell power or mag or mag regen instead?

My opinion is that Sentinel is probably the best option if you were to use one, straight healing isn't really that useful, earthgore is really good in some situations (PVP), I have seen peoples maths on troll king and people need to have high health regen before its useful that is more common in PVP. Free stamina to your allies is good i'd use Sentinel.

The change to shadowrend makes it less useful for healers (unless you want to get yourself hit deliberately) but I think its underrated overall.

Earthgore is really good for burn phases in trial. Gives you extra time.

Lynx7386

Lord warden can still proc pretty frequently on a healer from aoe damage.

Azurya

Tasear wrote: »

It's not acceptable to some group of people to use them, but very popular at dungeon level. Though earthgore as been used in some vet trials for negating and help during burn phase. Back to dungeons earthgore, troll king and sometimes sentiental are popular. You will see others but proc chance or design is just bad.

I run every day with healers the pledges. nobody cares wath you are wearing as long as they stay alive!

and I run NO-monster-set, no place for that.

Aurielle

I just use 1pc Earthgore, 5 SPC/5 Worm (or Sanctuary). No need for a two-piece set. I'll probably switch to 5 SPC/5 Jorvuld's/Asylum Resto/Random Lightning once the update hits on consoles. I should really work on VMA so I can get the lightning staff from there...

Lynx7386

I run nerieneth on my nightblade healer for dungeons, just for some extra damage output, can't rely on the potatoes to kill things quickly all the time.

Sometimes I run chokethorn for my templar, but its more for novelty than need.

On both im still running 2 5 pc sets, lich back bar

TheDoomsdayMonster

Seraphayel wrote: »

... does somebody have a full list or something like that? I tried to make one but I fear I missed out a bunch of sets in the end. My list contains:



Are there more? What 2p sets are used by most healers?

Like you, I think outside of the box when it comes to character building...

As a result, I use Mighty Chudan when healing nowadays...

After all, if I'm dead, I'm not healing anyone, and s**t happens, so you will take some big hits at some point...


With Chudan, you don't have to cast Rune Focus...ever.

You will have 100% uptime on 8255 Spell/Physical Resist (with 1205 Max Health as an extra bonus)...

With Chudan, you free up a slot for an ability of your choice to replace Rune Focus (I use Structured Entropy in place of Rune Focus for the Major Sorcery buff it provides)...


Just think about it...

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

@TheDoomsdayMonster you really wear combat physician and chudan? the reason you run channled focus is for the 480 extra regen, not just the resists.

Lynx7386

Yea I dont see much use for chudan on a healer. I have run 1pc bone pirate and 1pc chudan before, for tougher vet dungeons, that'll give you more resistance overall especially in conjunction with channeled focus. Nightblade healers get major ward/resolve for free every time they use refreshing path.

IMO, it comes down to this:

1. If you dont have a vma/asylum/master staff, you're probably best off running either a 5-5-1 (one piece monster helm or shoulder) setup, or a 5-5-2 (2 piece monster set with different 5 piece sets on your front and back bar) setup. I prefer the 5-5-2 with lich on backbar, that leaves me with spellpower cure frontbar for buffing allies, and whenever i get low on magicka I bar swap and use one ability and I can swap back and keep the extra 1k recovery for 20 seconds.

2. If you do have a vma/asylum/master staff, you'll want to run that with either a 5-5-1 setup (two 5 piece and the staff) or a 5-3-2-1 setup (5 piece, 3 piece jewelry set, 2 piece monster, and staff).

Which setup you run will come down to what content you're doing and what character/style you're going for. I like running a damage monster set on my nightblade, because he's adding a relatively substantial amount of damage to the group in most cases while simultaneously healing. My templar doesnt add quite as much damage and focuses more on support, so I prefer to not run a monster set, or when I do it's just for novelty reasons (like the 1 chudan/1 bone pirate).

Drdeath20

2, 5 piece sets and either a monster piece or a master staff

TheDoomsdayMonster

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

@TheDoomsdayMonster you really wear combat physician and chudan? the reason you run channled focus is for the 480 extra regen, not just the resists.

Yeah, I really run Chudan + Combat Physician and have completed all Vet 4 man content with that combo (I have no interest in running trials)...

It works great; you should try it...

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

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Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

@TheDoomsdayMonster you really wear combat physician and chudan? the reason you run channled focus is for the 480 extra regen, not just the resists.

Yeah, I really run Chudan + Combat Physician and have completed all Vet 4 man content with that combo (I have no interest in running trials)...

It works great; you should try it...

I run bogdan on my temp and sentinel of rekugums on my warden and have done all the same content as you. You should try it.

TheDoomsdayMonster

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TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

@TheDoomsdayMonster you really wear combat physician and chudan? the reason you run channled focus is for the 480 extra regen, not just the resists.

Yeah, I really run Chudan + Combat Physician and have completed all Vet 4 man content with that combo (I have no interest in running trials)...

It works great; you should try it...

I run bogdan on my temp and sentinel of rekugums on my warden and have done all the same content as you. You should try it.

Nice!!

Naw, I'm good with Chudan + Combat Physician...

That combo suits my playstyle perfectly...

Runefang

You forgot Zaan

Big deeps people, big deeps!

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

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Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

@TheDoomsdayMonster you really wear combat physician and chudan? the reason you run channled focus is for the 480 extra regen, not just the resists.

Yeah, I really run Chudan + Combat Physician and have completed all Vet 4 man content with that combo (I have no interest in running trials)...

It works great; you should try it...

I run bogdan on my temp and sentinel of rekugums on my warden and have done all the same content as you. You should try it.

Nice!!

Naw, I'm good with Chudan + Combat Physician...

That combo suits my playstyle perfectly...

That is nice dear, now as long as you realize that is not the same playstyle that most people have, or want, you will be fine.

Tasear

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TheDoomsdayMonster wrote: »

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »

@TheDoomsdayMonster you really wear combat physician and chudan? the reason you run channled focus is for the 480 extra regen, not just the resists.

Yeah, I really run Chudan + Combat Physician and have completed all Vet 4 man content with that combo (I have no interest in running trials)...

It works great; you should try it...

I run bogdan on my temp and sentinel of rekugums on my warden and have done all the same content as you. You should try it.

Is bogdan a joke? If not why. How is this set useful at all.

mocap

Sets like "when you heal a guy, you have a chance to spawn a wonderful crap which will heal even more!" are pfff.
Use magic recovery, defending or damage pieces. Or none of that.