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Nightblade request for Debilitate.

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO
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Very few if any Nightblades use this ability Crippling Grasp just does more damage. In the end a 50% refund just losses against the added damage of Cripple.

My request is next update to change this to a stamina morph. It would add a range DoT which is great it would definitely give StamBlades a reason to use the Siphoning skill line

The Ult is magic damage or a heal both not great or good for a stamina build. Malevolent kills in order to heal not worth it as StamBlades have HoTs that do not kill you. Siphoning Strikes is just dead the returns too small and the wait for the big return too long. We are better off taking more power then trying to made Siphoning work. Not much to work with in this tree.

Power Extraction is not too bad if you use Bow, Twohanded or Sword and Shield. But that’s one okay power from the whole skill line. Both heals scale with magic and the ult is magic damage. Just an idea.

Edit: random word added from auto correct removed.
Edited by kendellking_chaosb14_ESO on February 22, 2018 7:45PM
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  • WrathOfInnos
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    Debilitate is useful for solo content, but not because of the Magicka return. It can be used on multiple enemies, unlike crippling grasp. This means that in places like delves or VMA, debilitate can be cast on each enemy, snaring them all, and killing most in a few seconds, while granting permanent speed boost to the caster.

    If crippling grasp could be cast on multiple enemies then I would support debilitate becoming a stamina morph.
  • kendellking_chaosb14_ESO
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    Debilitate is useful for solo content, but not because of the Magicka return. It can be used on multiple enemies, unlike crippling grasp. This means that in places like delves or VMA, debilitate can be cast on each enemy, snaring them all, and killing most in a few seconds, while granting permanent speed boost to the caster.

    If crippling grasp could be cast on multiple enemies then I would support debilitate becoming a stamina morph.

    While that is a good example of the morph being put to good use. The number of stamina Nightblades has always but higher then magic. Main reason the Nightblade class has more stamina morphs then any other class.

    I would like one of this to be stamina I’m sure more MageBlades use Cripple then Debilitate so that morph would hurt far less players.
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    May Sithis hold back his Void
  • Izaki
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    Nah Stamblades don't need a DoT. They are already the strongest single target DPS class in the game in both PvP and PvE, adding a powerful DoT that has a snare and a resource refund on top would just be too much. That's coming from a Stamblade main by the way ^^

    I would definitely hope that Debilitate gets some more defining features so that its advantageous to use of Cripple in certain situations.
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  • Lexxypwns
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    So you’re saying buff stamblade? Lol
  • Lynx7386
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    You just said Nightblade has more stamina morphs than any other class and asked for yet another stamina morph in the same paragraph.

    That seem right to you?
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    Leonin - Khajiit Warden - Tank
  • kendellking_chaosb14_ESO
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    Izaki wrote: »
    Nah Stamblades don't need a DoT. They are already the strongest single target DPS class in the game in both PvP and PvE, adding a powerful DoT that has a snare and a resource refund on top would just be too much. That's coming from a Stamblade main by the way ^^

    I would definitely hope that Debilitate gets some more defining features so that its advantageous to use of Cripple in certain situations.

    As a StamBlade you know we can build great tanks or do great in Sustain hard burst is all we have. I would like to have more then just ganking powers. The resources return can be pulled to make it fair hell even just one target. Think of the base power but stamina damage. Dual wielding has a snare with a DoT so it’s not a new thing it would just be at range with any weapon.
    Lynx7386 wrote: »
    You just said Nightblade has more stamina morphs than any other class and asked for yet another stamina morph in the same paragraph.

    That seem right to you?

    If you were here on release you would know that before stamina class morphs nearly every stamina build was a Nightblade so the class with more stamina builds got more stamina morphs.

    I’m asking this for my main class it’s up the other classes to make a case for stamina morphs for their class. Stamina was nearly unplayable. Stamina morphs were added cause players asked for it and it was within reason. Everyone has to make their own case.

    Everyone hate what’s happening to mDK and DK in general but who has a real plan? The class is top tier for Tanking any added damage makes them tanky and hard hitting.
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  • Lynx7386
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    I was here at launch, nightblade was popular for melee builds because everyone wanted to be a ninja assassin and it had a couple beneficial passives. That has nothing to do with the fact that you're wanting something that isn't needed
    PS4 / NA
    M'asad - Khajiit Nightblade - Healer
    Pakhet - Khajiit Dragonknight - Tank
    Raksha - Khajiit Sorcerer - Stamina DPS
    Bastet - Khajiit Templar - Healer
    Leonin - Khajiit Warden - Tank
  • kendellking_chaosb14_ESO
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    Lynx7386 wrote: »
    I was here at launch, nightblade was popular for melee builds because everyone wanted to be a ninja assassin and it had a couple beneficial passives. That has nothing to do with the fact that you're wanting something that isn't needed

    Archers was most of the builds. ZoS should have more stamina morphs for the other class. Just cause other classes have gave up on getting new stamina morphs should not stop Nightblades. It’s honestly just Rending Slashes but at range. I really don’t care that everyone we have burst damage. I want to do more then just gank having a good DoT that can use any weapon would open up sword and shield up for StamBlades.
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    Chaos Death-Scale: Shadow Knight
    Tanks-With-Sap-Essence: Dark Mage
    Dark Brotherhood Listener: Blade of Argonia
    Chaos Dragon-Scale: Draconic Shield Master
    Chaos Light-Scale: Marsh Paladin
    Chaos Lightning-Scale: Daedric Master
    Hurricane Chaos: Storm Archer
    Bask-In-My-Light: Warrior of The Light
    Forged-In-Dragon-Fire: Pyro Mage
    Guardian of The Hist: Light Mender
    Chaos of Black Marsh: Master of The Burning Sword
    Star of Chaos: Frost Blade Champion
    Chaos-Lightning-Tower: Lightning Shield Master

    For the King of Argonia
    May Sithis hold back his Void
  • Silver_Strider
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    People have been asking for a Stamina Cripple for almost as long as they been asking for a Stamina Whip on DK and Frags for Sorcs.

    There's really no reason for it not to happen except people losing their collective minds at a buff to Stamblades. Let's ignore the fact their AoE damage is crap, that they have no innate group support, terrible survivability and that Warden have greater burst in PvP and just focus on their single target damage; it's not like end game has need of anything but single target damage after all, right?
    Edited by Silver_Strider on February 22, 2018 11:51PM
    Argonian forever
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