30K+ health and 30K/60k DPS for DPS build ???

Priyasekarssk

I came across a super PRO, who has 30K health and produce sustained 30K dps on single target and 60K on multi targets. He is at 700 CP+ . But still, how its possible for him to make such a build. He literally never dies and handle bosses single handed. On veteran hard mode, when all died , he single handed defeated the boss from 35 percent health after he was tired of rezz all players. When I just asked him, how could he make such a build , he is not replying anything other than dont want to speak about it. But , we made 4 veteran dungeons in a row in hard mode. he just handled all bosses single handed. He is breton soccerer non pet build.
Is there any possible secret build to achieve this ?
As far I heard, DPS should have health around 20K to get good dps. He simply put all people in you tube videos to shame.

Priyasekarssk

Sorry , he uses clanfear. So its breton sorcerer pet build.

DRAGON_KILLER_HUNTER

30k health and sustained 30k dps in pve isnt possible. most likely exploit/broken sets and mechanics
and why would he use the clannfear? explosive pet is so much more damage.

Priyasekarssk

Probably because clanfear healing scale on health for sustain ?

DRAGON_KILLER_HUNTER

Its even more unlikely that he has 30k dps without the explosive pet.

Something like necropotence and plague doctor CAN work, but it will be ***. specially without the explosive pet

Priyasekarssk

Clanfear also tanks aggro and has taunt. My concern is not about his DPS. Everyone nowadays achieve 35K. He just sacrified 5K dps for his insane sustain .

Drdeath20

He probably wears 5 heavy

magictucktuck

How do you know his DPS? i can handle bosses by myself on vet when everyone dies but usually by yourself you dont get that dps since you have to dodge heal and tank yourself. also dont have 30k healh unless your in heavy armor or all health glyphs which is not good for dps.

but surviving a vet boss alone is different than 30-60k dps

Priyasekarssk

He does roll dodges. Usually , combat metrics all results you need. Once all died, you easily get in group dps. I am pretty sure he has 25k to 30k sustained dps on single target. He uses his mini tank very effectively.

SirDopey

I highly doubt his DPS was even above 20k with that much health. Either that or he's using CE.

Combat Metrix can be deceptive when you're using it to get a gauge of other's DPS. To know his actual DPS you would have needed him to post it.

Lynx7386

I run a pet sorc with 20k health that manages 20-25k single target without ultimate factored in; I also don't have a maelstrom staff or all my passives ranked up yet.

Thing is with a pet sorc you don't need super high health because you can shield with ward to double your effective health pool.

DRAGON_KILLER_HUNTER

Lynx7386 wrote: »

I run a pet sorc with 20k health that manages 20-25k single target without ultimate factored in; I also don't have a maelstrom staff or all my passives ranked up yet.

Thing is with a pet sorc you don't need super high health because you can shield with ward to double your effective health pool.

Raksha is a khajiit tho

Lynx7386

DRAGON_KILLER_HUNTER wrote: »

Lynx7386 wrote: »

I run a pet sorc with 20k health that manages 20-25k single target without ultimate factored in; I also don't have a maelstrom staff or all my passives ranked up yet.

Thing is with a pet sorc you don't need super high health because you can shield with ward to double your effective health pool.

Raksha is a khajiit tho

Yes, all my characters are khajiit

Asmael

Figured I'd test it myself:

Using a stamina DK with all attribute points transferred from stamina to HP, reaching 26.8k HP. Do note that I do not have Ebon, no pet (8% max HP) and using 6m/1h (missing 2% max HP), so you can pretty easily hit 30k. Everything else is literally your usual stamina DD setup.



And the parse itself:



35k with 26.8k HP. Other specs (such as stamblade) could definitely get even higher DPS with similar HP on a target dummy, so definitely doable.

DRAGON_KILLER_HUNTER

Asmael wrote: »

Figured I'd test it myself:

Using a stamina DK with all attribute points transferred from stamina to HP, reaching 26.8k HP. Do note that I do not have Ebon, no pet (8% max HP) and using 6m/1h (missing 2% max HP), so you can pretty easily hit 30k. Everything else is literally your usual stamina DD setup.



And the parse itself:



35k with 26.8k HP. Other specs (such as stamblade) could definitely get even higher DPS with similar HP on a target dummy, so definitely doable.

And here i am struggling to get 15k

Jameliel

Asmael wrote: »

Figured I'd test it myself:

Using a stamina DK with all attribute points transferred from stamina to HP, reaching 26.8k HP. Do note that I do not have Ebon, no pet (8% max HP) and using 6m/1h (missing 2% max HP), so you can pretty easily hit 30k. Everything else is literally your usual stamina DD setup.



And the parse itself:



35k with 26.8k HP. Other specs (such as stamblade) could definitely get even higher DPS with similar HP on a target dummy, so definitely doable.

What's the name of this addon?

Lightspeedflashb14_ESO

Jameliel wrote: »

Asmael wrote: »

Figured I'd test it myself:

Using a stamina DK with all attribute points transferred from stamina to HP, reaching 26.8k HP. Do note that I do not have Ebon, no pet (8% max HP) and using 6m/1h (missing 2% max HP), so you can pretty easily hit 30k. Everything else is literally your usual stamina DD setup.



And the parse itself:



35k with 26.8k HP. Other specs (such as stamblade) could definitely get even higher DPS with similar HP on a target dummy, so definitely doable.

What's the name of this addon?

This is it, https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/392871/combat-metrics-0-8-0-beta-test

kylewwefan

Don’t forget about the gro up finder buff. And the big difference between target skeleton and boss that hits back.

Priyasekarssk

Jameliel wrote: »

Asmael wrote: »

Figured I'd test it myself:

Using a stamina DK with all attribute points transferred from stamina to HP, reaching 26.8k HP. Do note that I do not have Ebon, no pet (8% max HP) and using 6m/1h (missing 2% max HP), so you can pretty easily hit 30k. Everything else is literally your usual stamina DD setup.



And the parse itself:



35k with 26.8k HP. Other specs (such as stamblade) could definitely get even higher DPS with similar HP on a target dummy, so definitely doable.

What's the name of this addon?

Asmael wrote: »

Figured I'd test it myself:

Using a stamina DK with all attribute points transferred from stamina to HP, reaching 26.8k HP. Do note that I do not have Ebon, no pet (8% max HP) and using 6m/1h (missing 2% max HP), so you can pretty easily hit 30k. Everything else is literally your usual stamina DD setup.



And the parse itself:



35k with 26.8k HP. Other specs (such as stamblade) could definitely get even higher DPS with similar HP on a target dummy, so definitely doable.

I got it. I made similar build, with 30k health. But my DPS is 25k single target and 50K multi-target. My CP is only 200. Eventually my DPS will go up when my CP go up. My sustain is really good for soloing dungeons. So, that's the secret.

Priyasekarssk

Lynx7386 wrote: »

I run a pet sorc with 20k health that manages 20-25k single target without ultimate factored in; I also don't have a maelstrom staff or all my passives ranked up yet.

Thing is with a pet sorc you don't need super high health because you can shield with ward to double your effective health pool.

Scorer require max magicka pool , for good shield. Hardened ward impacts your dps , to keep up all the times. Its last only 6 seconds. Veteran bosses on hard mode, will one hit any thing less than 20k health without shield. AI cheats like hell. It will immediately hit once shield down and not at time of shield. His build is highly odd, but efficient. Need not have to keep up shield all times. Once you got hit, you have shield and clanfear which heals around 10K per pulse !!! . Literally no death for you , unless you do something stupid. When Mobs comes in tank the boss with clanfear. Breton by itself has good damage mitigation instead of high elf. 10K health for 5K dps is not bad bargain I suppose.

Illurian

Priyasekarssk wrote: »

Lynx7386 wrote: »

I run a pet sorc with 20k health that manages 20-25k single target without ultimate factored in; I also don't have a maelstrom staff or all my passives ranked up yet.

Thing is with a pet sorc you don't need super high health because you can shield with ward to double your effective health pool.

Scorer require max magicka pool , for good shield. Hardened ward impacts your dps , to keep up all the times. Its last only 6 seconds. Veteran bosses on hard mode, will one hit any thing less than 20k health without shield. AI cheats like hell. It will immediately hit once shield down and not at time of shield. His build is highly odd, but efficient. Need not have to keep up shield all times. Once you got hit, you have shield and clanfear which heals around 10K per pulse !!! . Literally no death for you , unless you do something stupid. When Mobs comes in tank the boss with clanfear. Breton by itself has good damage mitigation instead of high elf. 10K health for 5K dps is not bad bargain I suppose.

Bolded part is simply inaccurate. ~17k hp is the benchmark for dps characters, and provided you aren't brain dead, you should survive all mechanics.

Priyasekarssk

Illurian wrote: »

Priyasekarssk wrote: »

Lynx7386 wrote: »

I run a pet sorc with 20k health that manages 20-25k single target without ultimate factored in; I also don't have a maelstrom staff or all my passives ranked up yet.

Thing is with a pet sorc you don't need super high health because you can shield with ward to double your effective health pool.

Scorer require max magicka pool , for good shield. Hardened ward impacts your dps , to keep up all the times. Its last only 6 seconds. Veteran bosses on hard mode, will one hit any thing less than 20k health without shield. AI cheats like hell. It will immediately hit once shield down and not at time of shield. His build is highly odd, but efficient. Need not have to keep up shield all times. Once you got hit, you have shield and clanfear which heals around 10K per pulse !!! . Literally no death for you , unless you do something stupid. When Mobs comes in tank the boss with clanfear. Breton by itself has good damage mitigation instead of high elf. 10K health for 5K dps is not bad bargain I suppose.

Bolded part is simply inaccurate. ~17k hp is the benchmark for dps characters, and provided you aren't brain dead, you should survive all mechanics.

I dont think you understand correctly. Its soloing veteran boss on DLC dungeons on hard mode. Not with tank. No way you can do it with 17K health. You and the boss alone. No healer , no tank. Very few rare PRO players already did that and posted on youtube. But, its first time I have seen one doing in game real time.

Illurian

Priyasekarssk wrote: »

Illurian wrote: »

Priyasekarssk wrote: »

Lynx7386 wrote: »

I run a pet sorc with 20k health that manages 20-25k single target without ultimate factored in; I also don't have a maelstrom staff or all my passives ranked up yet.

Thing is with a pet sorc you don't need super high health because you can shield with ward to double your effective health pool.

Scorer require max magicka pool , for good shield. Hardened ward impacts your dps , to keep up all the times. Its last only 6 seconds. Veteran bosses on hard mode, will one hit any thing less than 20k health without shield. AI cheats like hell. It will immediately hit once shield down and not at time of shield. His build is highly odd, but efficient. Need not have to keep up shield all times. Once you got hit, you have shield and clanfear which heals around 10K per pulse !!! . Literally no death for you , unless you do something stupid. When Mobs comes in tank the boss with clanfear. Breton by itself has good damage mitigation instead of high elf. 10K health for 5K dps is not bad bargain I suppose.

Bolded part is simply inaccurate. ~17k hp is the benchmark for dps characters, and provided you aren't brain dead, you should survive all mechanics.

I dont think you understand correctly. Its soloing veteran boss on DLC dungeons on hard mode. Not with tank. No way you can do it with 17K health. You and the boss alone. No healer , no tank. Very few rare PRO players already did that and posted on youtube. But, its first time I have seen one doing in game real time.

I've solo'ed entire vet dungeons myself on hard mode on my 17k hp Stamsorc and I'm not even a pro/min max player. Sorcerers have ridiculous self sustain with Critical Surge. Admittedly, I've not solo'ed the DLC dungeons on vet as I don't think that some of the bosses are soloable due to mechanics (such as the first boss in WGT that I believe will reset once she puts you in a prison), but I'm fairly confident that I'd be able to solo Molag Kena for example. I will try it out sometime.

Anyway, my point was that you won't get 1 shot by boss mechanics if you have under 20k hp. Only if you make a mistake or if the boss actually does hit exceptionally hard (last boss in Spindle Clutch 1 for example; her basic attacks deal 6-7k damage, which is hard to keep up with in terms of self sustain).