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Joshuagm1991
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I have always liked this skill morph even though I know it's not the best. Ive been playing my warden, but are any magicka templars using this skill now that it's been buffed?
Edited by Joshuagm1991 on February 19, 2018 4:29AM
  • SugaComa
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    I tried it ... I found it to be underwhelming and not as good as I hoped ... Not sure if it was after the buff but I was getting hit by stuff that I felt should have been blocked by the skill, such as lethal arrow , uppercut, dizzying swing
  • Brutusmax1mus
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    You still get hit, it just causes dmg to your opponent too
  • DeadlyRecluse
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    It's really good against people who don't know how to respond to it.

    It's really bad when it just gives free CC immunity and accomplishes nothing.

    I've found it's hard to justify slotting except for ranged gank/keep defense builds, where you are trying to nuke someone on siege or something and hope they don't notice you queuing up the jank that is templar burst.
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  • Joshuagm1991
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    Oh! I'm actually talking about the morph that explodes with heavy damage after a mob dies or 3.5 seconds pass.
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    Oh! I'm actually talking about the morph that explodes with heavy damage after a mob dies or 3.5 seconds pass.

    yea, still gives the target cc immunity. So you have to plan around not being able to CC the enemy at all if you are going to use UC as ranged burst. It used to function as ranged burst pre-morrowind, then they got all cute with the over-design. But right now it has a small window for you to time burst and it's new intended purpose is to switch from defensive to offense.

    Honestly, they need to return UC to the delayed burst damage rangplars need; huge undoged/unblocked dmg to replace jabs/burning light. Just get rid of the redirect portion and get rid of that stupid cc immunity while increasing the dmg greatly. or giving a defense/offense buff to justify slotting it.

    In nCP don't even use it. It's too expensive for the dmg it will deal.
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  • DeadlyRecluse
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    Minno wrote: »
    they got all cute with the over-design.

    Best description of the skill in it's current state.
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  • Minno
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    Minno wrote: »
    they got all cute with the over-design.

    Best description of the skill in it's current state.

    And I love the spell. It just worked better before Morrowind when it was a hidden little circle of light; just needed a dmg buff to compete with sorc curse/NB relentless will.

    But I think they are having issues with it being essentially the same type of dmg as purfying light, except they should have changed purifying light to be a group dmg buff instead of the all-round ability it is used as.

    We need a giant templar redesign lol.
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  • Joshuagm1991
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    Minno wrote: »
    Minno wrote: »
    they got all cute with the over-design.

    Best description of the skill in it's current state.

    And I love the spell. It just worked better before Morrowind when it was a hidden little circle of light; just needed a dmg buff to compete with sorc curse/NB relentless will.

    But I think they are having issues with it being essentially the same type of dmg as purfying light, except they should have changed purifying light to be a group dmg buff instead of the all-round ability it is used as.

    We need a giant templar redesign lol.

    I'm a little confused. It no longer reflects spells back but deals a high amount of AoE damage. So why would it grant CC immunity??

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    Minno wrote: »
    Minno wrote: »
    they got all cute with the over-design.

    Best description of the skill in it's current state.

    And I love the spell. It just worked better before Morrowind when it was a hidden little circle of light; just needed a dmg buff to compete with sorc curse/NB relentless will.

    But I think they are having issues with it being essentially the same type of dmg as purfying light, except they should have changed purifying light to be a group dmg buff instead of the all-round ability it is used as.

    We need a giant templar redesign lol.

    I'm a little confused. It no longer reflects spells back but deals a high amount of AoE damage. So why would it grant CC immunity??
    There's two effects:
    • Target causes x damage each time they cause a direct damage sttack
    • Deals [x] Magic Damage damage to them and nearby enemies after 4 seconds

    The first effect creates the bubble animation. It also can be purged/broken free from. After you purge/break free, it grants the target cc immunity.

    The second effect is the delayed time bomb. This is where the AOE dmg comes from. It occurs even if your target has cc immunity, and deals it's dmg across everyone on the radius. BUT if you purge/break free from it, it will deal it's dmg instantly.

    It needs a redesign, or a huge buff to compete with abilities like sorc's curse. @ZOS_Wrobel if you are reading this, get rid of this cc immunity limitation and redo the ability!
    Edited by Minno on February 19, 2018 10:14PM
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  • Joy_Division
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    Minno wrote: »
    Minno wrote: »
    they got all cute with the over-design.

    Best description of the skill in it's current state.

    And I love the spell. It just worked better before Morrowind when it was a hidden little circle of light; just needed a dmg buff to compete with sorc curse/NB relentless will.

    But I think they are having issues with it being essentially the same type of dmg as purfying light, except they should have changed purifying light to be a group dmg buff instead of the all-round ability it is used as.

    We need a giant templar redesign lol.

    I'm a little confused. It no longer reflects spells back but deals a high amount of AoE damage. So why would it grant CC immunity??

    Because it would be broken OP is it forced players to constantly CC break.

    To your original post, it's pretty simply. The spell is strong against reckless opponents who don;t bother CC breaking it (and then come onto these forums whining how the skill is OP) and useless against opponents who do CC break it.
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  • CompM4s
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    I use the total dark morph regularly, it is very useful in some scenarios.
  • SugaComa
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    You still get hit, it just causes dmg to your opponent too

    Ok what I meant was is as I get hit by those thing I should see an offset of them taking damage n me getting healed n I didn't see that occur once with those skills like I did with others

    Also it should actually reflect the damage so in essence blocks on you n hits them

    This works with javelin as you see the player knock them selves back rather than hitting you n knocking you back
  • maxjapank
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    SugaComa wrote: »
    You still get hit, it just causes dmg to your opponent too

    Ok what I meant was is as I get hit by those thing I should see an offset of them taking damage n me getting healed n I didn't see that occur once with those skills like I did with others

    Also it should actually reflect the damage so in essence blocks on you n hits them

    This works with javelin as you see the player knock them selves back rather than hitting you n knocking you back

    Total Dark is the morph that heals you while damaging them. The heals are quite large. You’d be surprised. Throw that on a pet or NPCs and get free heals, too.
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