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two handed weapon skills? forgotten?

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  • Zamuro
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    2h best weapon in the game OMEGALUL
  • Bobby_V_Rockit
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    Priyasekarssk wrote: »
    Zamuro wrote: »
    what do u think, guys? i think 2h is very weak compared to any other tree and need a complete rework(ult incl). i asked few random ppl about their opinions in game and friends and no one has said a good thing about 2h. i love 2h weapons and i play with them in every game that is possible but here they are...close to nonexistant. every other weapon is on a whole different level. if a rework happens, the only thing that is probably good from all the skills is the charge and maybe it should be kept. thx for the new outfit system btw! its 10/10, i love it!

    LOL. Is this sarcasm or something. Two hander are best weapons hands down. Most overpowered. Just look at 2 hander active skills. On PVP you have literally pray to god. With brawler shield, Rally , Momentum , infinite buffs no snares with infinite healing. You can take down any dungeons single handed including malestrom. Only thing you have to manage stamina. Two hander requires big nerf imo.

    Close to non existent ? Are you really playing ESO ?

    Just go to cyrodil or undaunted guild , I gurantee you will see 90 percent run with two handers, unless you are blind to see.

    While in PvE, which is 90% of the game, try not getting instakicked from group activities for showing up as a DD with a 2H weapon (staves excluded obviously) equipped. It is practically non-existant in the main game.
    Edited by Bobby_V_Rockit on February 23, 2018 1:43AM
  • STEVIL
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    Lynx7386 wrote: »
    Kanar wrote: »
    2h is already pretty good in PvE, it's just that many people are sheep who don't try things for themselves and instead parrot what they've been told or read.
    The advantage of 2h is that it has a really good execute, something which most stamina classes lack. Over the course of a fight it may do slightly less damage than dw, but it has higher damage where it matters - execute. Even the hard boss dungeon boss fights are pretty easy in the first half and only get tough during execute.

    The skills could use some minor improvements but overall it's in a good place.

    The 2h execute is worse than dw or any class execute right now.

    Been a bit since i ran those characters but - iirc - if you combine the sets with "on ultimate - abc happens" with the auto-reload on kill 2h ulti, you get some major mileage out of adds that get to even moderately low damage. As a backbar element for an 11pc build this can be quite interesting.
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  • Araxyte
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    I think they made some changes to reverse slice which makes it very very strong in AoE. Pair it with the asylum great sword and you have yourself, in my opinion, one of the funnest and strongest aoe builds out there. You can also execute adds with low health around your main target for extra splash damage and ultimate gain. It can hit an unlimited amount of targets, I think, and deals 98% splash damage? lol it's good fun.
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    When you get to execute stage on a boss, the ultimate gain is ridiculous... I end up having two storm atronach ultimate's down at once whilst using this sword :D .
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  • Bobby_V_Rockit
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    Araxyte wrote: »
    I think they made some changes to reverse slice which makes it very very strong in AoE. Pair it with the asylum great sword and you have yourself, in my opinion, one of the funnest and strongest aoe builds out there. You can also execute adds with low health around your main target for extra splash damage and ultimate gain. It can hit an unlimited amount of targets, I think, and deals 98% splash damage? lol it's good fun.
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    When you get to execute stage on a boss, the ultimate gain is ridiculous... I end up having two storm atronach ultimate's down at once whilst using this sword :D .
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    My tooltip says nearby enemies take 94% of the damage inflicted... why dat?!
  • Lightspeedflashb14_ESO
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    Bobby_V_Rockit wrote: »
    Araxyte wrote: »
    I think they made some changes to reverse slice which makes it very very strong in AoE. Pair it with the asylum great sword and you have yourself, in my opinion, one of the funnest and strongest aoe builds out there. You can also execute adds with low health around your main target for extra splash damage and ultimate gain. It can hit an unlimited amount of targets, I think, and deals 98% splash damage? lol it's good fun.
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    When you get to execute stage on a boss, the ultimate gain is ridiculous... I end up having two storm atronach ultimate's down at once whilst using this sword :D .
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    My tooltip says nearby enemies take 94% of the damage inflicted... why dat?!

    You have a sword? Cause he has a sword. Or difference in class, sorcs get 5% physical damage, or race, orcs get 4% more melee Damage.
    Edited by Lightspeedflashb14_ESO on February 23, 2018 8:19AM
  • Bobby_V_Rockit
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    Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »
    Bobby_V_Rockit wrote: »
    Araxyte wrote: »
    I think they made some changes to reverse slice which makes it very very strong in AoE. Pair it with the asylum great sword and you have yourself, in my opinion, one of the funnest and strongest aoe builds out there. You can also execute adds with low health around your main target for extra splash damage and ultimate gain. It can hit an unlimited amount of targets, I think, and deals 98% splash damage? lol it's good fun.
    unknown.png

    When you get to execute stage on a boss, the ultimate gain is ridiculous... I end up having two storm atronach ultimate's down at once whilst using this sword :D .
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    My tooltip says nearby enemies take 94% of the damage inflicted... why dat?!

    You have a sword? Cause he has a sword. Or difference in class, sorcs get 5% physical damage, or race, orcs get 4% more melee Damage.

    Yup, running a stam sorc with gold nirnhoned asylum greatsword.
  • Lightspeedflashb14_ESO
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    Bobby_V_Rockit wrote: »
    Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »
    Bobby_V_Rockit wrote: »
    Araxyte wrote: »
    I think they made some changes to reverse slice which makes it very very strong in AoE. Pair it with the asylum great sword and you have yourself, in my opinion, one of the funnest and strongest aoe builds out there. You can also execute adds with low health around your main target for extra splash damage and ultimate gain. It can hit an unlimited amount of targets, I think, and deals 98% splash damage? lol it's good fun.
    unknown.png

    When you get to execute stage on a boss, the ultimate gain is ridiculous... I end up having two storm atronach ultimate's down at once whilst using this sword :D .
    unknown.png

    My tooltip says nearby enemies take 94% of the damage inflicted... why dat?!

    You have a sword? Cause he has a sword. Or difference in class, sorcs get 5% physical damage, or race, orcs get 4% more melee Damage.

    Yup, running a stam sorc with gold nirnhoned asylum greatsword.

    Are you an orc? How much do you have in master at arms? That is the CP node that buff that damage.
  • Bobby_V_Rockit
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    Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »
    Bobby_V_Rockit wrote: »
    Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »
    Bobby_V_Rockit wrote: »
    Araxyte wrote: »
    I think they made some changes to reverse slice which makes it very very strong in AoE. Pair it with the asylum great sword and you have yourself, in my opinion, one of the funnest and strongest aoe builds out there. You can also execute adds with low health around your main target for extra splash damage and ultimate gain. It can hit an unlimited amount of targets, I think, and deals 98% splash damage? lol it's good fun.
    unknown.png

    When you get to execute stage on a boss, the ultimate gain is ridiculous... I end up having two storm atronach ultimate's down at once whilst using this sword :D .
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    My tooltip says nearby enemies take 94% of the damage inflicted... why dat?!

    You have a sword? Cause he has a sword. Or difference in class, sorcs get 5% physical damage, or race, orcs get 4% more melee Damage.

    Yup, running a stam sorc with gold nirnhoned asylum greatsword.

    Are you an orc? How much do you have in master at arms? That is the CP node that buff that damage.

    Not an Orc, but that shouldnt affect the percent bonus, just the flat value, maybe because I’m on console and DB hasnt dropped yet
  • Lightspeedflashb14_ESO
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    Bobby_V_Rockit wrote: »
    Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »
    Bobby_V_Rockit wrote: »
    Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »
    Bobby_V_Rockit wrote: »
    Araxyte wrote: »
    I think they made some changes to reverse slice which makes it very very strong in AoE. Pair it with the asylum great sword and you have yourself, in my opinion, one of the funnest and strongest aoe builds out there. You can also execute adds with low health around your main target for extra splash damage and ultimate gain. It can hit an unlimited amount of targets, I think, and deals 98% splash damage? lol it's good fun.
    unknown.png

    When you get to execute stage on a boss, the ultimate gain is ridiculous... I end up having two storm atronach ultimate's down at once whilst using this sword :D .
    unknown.png

    My tooltip says nearby enemies take 94% of the damage inflicted... why dat?!

    You have a sword? Cause he has a sword. Or difference in class, sorcs get 5% physical damage, or race, orcs get 4% more melee Damage.

    Yup, running a stam sorc with gold nirnhoned asylum greatsword.

    Are you an orc? How much do you have in master at arms? That is the CP node that buff that damage.

    Not an Orc, but that shouldnt affect the percent bonus, just the flat value, maybe because I’m on console and DB hasnt dropped yet

    No, orcs get 4% more melee Damage. That would be it. That passive does inpact percentage amps.
  • Araxyte
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    Bobby_V_Rockit wrote: »
    Araxyte wrote: »
    I think they made some changes to reverse slice which makes it very very strong in AoE. Pair it with the asylum great sword and you have yourself, in my opinion, one of the funnest and strongest aoe builds out there. You can also execute adds with low health around your main target for extra splash damage and ultimate gain. It can hit an unlimited amount of targets, I think, and deals 98% splash damage? lol it's good fun.
    unknown.png

    When you get to execute stage on a boss, the ultimate gain is ridiculous... I end up having two storm atronach ultimate's down at once whilst using this sword :D .
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    My tooltip says nearby enemies take 94% of the damage inflicted... why dat?!

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  • Bobby_V_Rockit
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    Araxyte wrote: »
    Bobby_V_Rockit wrote: »
    Araxyte wrote: »
    I think they made some changes to reverse slice which makes it very very strong in AoE. Pair it with the asylum great sword and you have yourself, in my opinion, one of the funnest and strongest aoe builds out there. You can also execute adds with low health around your main target for extra splash damage and ultimate gain. It can hit an unlimited amount of targets, I think, and deals 98% splash damage? lol it's good fun.
    unknown.png

    When you get to execute stage on a boss, the ultimate gain is ridiculous... I end up having two storm atronach ultimate's down at once whilst using this sword :D .
    unknown.png

    My tooltip says nearby enemies take 94% of the damage inflicted... why dat?!

    Orc + Sorc + Sword

    Must be, tooltip says 91% with Agility jewellery, 94% with vicious ophidian, might be changing races soon lol.
  • Kanar
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    Araxyte wrote: »
    I think they made some changes to reverse slice which makes it very very strong in AoE. Pair it with the asylum great sword and you have yourself, in my opinion, one of the funnest and strongest aoe builds out there. You can also execute adds with low health around your main target for extra splash damage and ultimate gain. It can hit an unlimited amount of targets, I think, and deals 98% splash damage? lol it's good fun.
    unknown.png

    When you get to execute stage on a boss, the ultimate gain is ridiculous... I end up having two storm atronach ultimate's down at once whilst using this sword :D .
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    Doesnt matter what you show them, the people who are clueless will stay that way because they want to. I mean, there's someone in this thread who thinks reverse slice is a bad execute.

    Asylum is pretty sweet on stamDK too. Yum those constant ultis and resources. Sometimes I can dawnbreaker while standard of might is still up :smiley:

    Bladecloak? It would be nice to have but if you git gud it's not needed.
  • Zamuro
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    nah. the execute is pretty good. its probably the best thing of the *** 2h skill line. its probably 3 times better than the nightblade execute because it triggers at 50% and it deals aoe dmg
  • Priyasekarssk
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    Bobby_V_Rockit wrote: »
    Priyasekarssk wrote: »
    Zamuro wrote: »
    what do u think, guys? i think 2h is very weak compared to any other tree and need a complete rework(ult incl). i asked few random ppl about their opinions in game and friends and no one has said a good thing about 2h. i love 2h weapons and i play with them in every game that is possible but here they are...close to nonexistant. every other weapon is on a whole different level. if a rework happens, the only thing that is probably good from all the skills is the charge and maybe it should be kept. thx for the new outfit system btw! its 10/10, i love it!

    LOL. Is this sarcasm or something. Two hander are best weapons hands down. Most overpowered. Just look at 2 hander active skills. On PVP you have literally pray to god. With brawler shield, Rally , Momentum , infinite buffs no snares with infinite healing. You can take down any dungeons single handed including malestrom. Only thing you have to manage stamina. Two hander requires big nerf imo.

    Close to non existent ? Are you really playing ESO ?

    Just go to cyrodil or undaunted guild , I gurantee you will see 90 percent run with two handers, unless you are blind to see.

    While in PvE, which is 90% of the game, try not getting instakicked from group activities for showing up as a DD with a 2H weapon (staves excluded obviously) equipped. It is practically non-existant in the main game.

    Who said PVE its non existent ? I prefer 2 hander to dual wield any day. Just go to skyreach . Try solo with 2 hander and dual wield. 2 Hander wins hands down. Just have brawler up always. You almost kill the mobs and bosses in no time with reverse slice almost untouched. You cannot dual wield unless you dont have a tank or cloak.
  • kringled_1
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    Kanar wrote: »
    Doesnt matter what you show them, the people who are clueless will stay that way because they want to. I mean, there's someone in this thread who thinks reverse slice is a bad execute.

    Asylum is pretty sweet on stamDK too. Yum those constant ultis and resources. Sometimes I can dawnbreaker while standard of might is still up :smiley:

    Bladecloak? It would be nice to have but if you git gud it's not needed.

    I can't really argue with you given that both of my smooth runs through vCOA2 were with you on a two hander, but I do want to point out that you definitely have to look quite a bit harder to find build/rotation guides for 2H as compared to DW.
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