Legerdemain Broken?

Anotherone773

Ive noticed since the patch that im getting a lot of trash and very little stuff to pick up. I had to resort back to picking up whites just to hit my daily limit in a timely manner. i use to find a ratio of about 30% white, 50% green, and 20% blue when you just count what is in the containers you open. I am now seeing about 60% white, 35% green and 5% blue. I checked all my good farming spots many i havent hit in 5-7 days.

I also noticed that my noob, who has legerdemain 5 gets far more whites than my thief did at the same level. She is getting about 10% green and less than 1% blue. It also seems they took the style material mostly out of the loot tables, stealing was how i got a lot of my style material. Now everything has a single lockpick in it or a rando provisioning item , or solvents, or other trash. Ive also seen provisioning/furnishing recipes decrease by almost half.

Given how ZOS excels at breaking things, im thinking they may of broken loot tables when they went messing with motifs.

I didnt put all that effort into thievery so i can steal other peoples trash items. Anyone else notice this change?

Aliyavana

argonians stole your rngs lol

firedrgn

I hope not .. geeeze maybe i can check on my toon tomorrow

Juju_beans

Not me..I hit jackpot on my level 17 and looted a shivering cheese !

OlafdieWaldfee

I never got the great 60/35/5-ratio you are complaining about! I have every legerdemain-skill maxed out, do daily thieving-runs (and in lucrative spots, too. At least they are supposed to be lucrative ... according to other players) and always had 80/18/2-ratio. I may be rather unlucky but I don't think I'm such an outlier.
Sooo, maybe you just were very, very lucky and now it's back to normal?

Anotherone773

OlafdieWaldfee wrote: »

I never got the great 60/35/5-ratio you are complaining about! I have every legerdemain-skill maxed out, do daily thieving-runs (and in lucrative spots, too. At least they are supposed to be lucrative ... according to other players) and always had 80/18/2-ratio. I may be rather unlucky but I don't think I'm such an outlier.
Sooo, maybe you just were very, very lucky and now it's back to normal?

Wow thats terrible. My non trained toon gets those numbers. Are you counting all items in all containers you look in? Or just "treasure" type items? I use to be able to fill my daily max with just green and above in 20-30 minutes on a good day and 45 to an hour if i was having a bad RNG day.

Since patch though its taken me longer than an hour to fill with green or better and has become so bad, i just started filling with whites because i dont want to spend all my time treasure hunting. IF your not getting good stuff from those spots, they probably arent that good.

I might have to go to delve/ dungeon farming or picking flowers or something if this keeps up. Putting a serious damper on my non trading income.

Also there is definitely a huge drop in style mats in those containers. I use to collect style mats from them and leave the lockpicks as they were always together. Now i get a stupid amount of lockpicks. I collected all the lockpicks last night just to see how many i would get and i got nearly 3/4 a stack of lockpicks in the same amount of containers it took me to farm treasures of all colors. Thats like triple what i use to get.

firedrgn

Just did a a run 19 blue 7 white 35 green

firedrgn

Oh and a gold if that counts lol no purples tho in a long time

Jhalin

The pickpocket interface is bugged to hell too. Instead of the prompt going away after you successfully pickpocket, it tell you the mark is Suspicious right before you get and item/bounty. It's also causes walking NPCs to double back to where you picked them, instead of pausing for a moment like they used to. It's annoying and I KNOW they aren't going to fix it within the year.

heaven13

Ugh, the lockpicks. I wish they'd just remove them from 90% of the loot tables. I have way more than I could ever need and, when acquired legally, you can't even sell them for a single gold piece. I guess at least when they're stolen, they can be fenced for something (though not worth the slot they take for that).

I just love going to The Brass Fortress and walking out with 20 lockpicks, some solvents, crap white gear, and a green alliance racial furnishing plan.

Kiralyn2000

OlafdieWaldfee wrote: »

I never got the great 60/35/5-ratio you are complaining about! I have every legerdemain-skill maxed out, do daily thieving-runs (and in lucrative spots, too. At least they are supposed to be lucrative ... according to other players) and always had 80/18/2-ratio. I may be rather unlucky but I don't think I'm such an outlier.
Sooo, maybe you just were very, very lucky and now it's back to normal?

Yeah, that sounds more like the looting that I've always gotten. I've never understood the people who say "oh, just take greens and blues!" It would take me forever to get that. 2 or 3 blues out of ~70 items is a good day for me. Maybe I'm just not robbing in a good location.

firedrgn

heaven13 wrote: »

Ugh, the lockpicks. I wish they'd just remove them from 90% of the loot tables. I have way more than I could ever need and, when acquired legally, you can't even sell them for a single gold piece. I guess at least when they're stolen, they can be fenced for something (though not worth the slot they take for that).

I just love going to The Brass Fortress and walking out with 20 lockpicks, some solvents, crap white gear, and a green alliance racial furnishing plan.

You will need them if u use force lock. Well i do anyways.

firedrgn

Kiralyn2000 wrote: »

OlafdieWaldfee wrote: »

I never got the great 60/35/5-ratio you are complaining about! I have every legerdemain-skill maxed out, do daily thieving-runs (and in lucrative spots, too. At least they are supposed to be lucrative ... according to other players) and always had 80/18/2-ratio. I may be rather unlucky but I don't think I'm such an outlier.
Sooo, maybe you just were very, very lucky and now it's back to normal?

Yeah, that sounds more like the looting that I've always gotten. I've never understood the people who say "oh, just take greens and blues!" It would take me forever to get that. 2 or 3 blues out of ~70 items is a good day for me. Maybe I'm just not robbing in a good location.

Do u have theives guild and legerdmain maxed.?

firedrgn

heaven13 wrote: »

Ugh, the lockpicks. I wish they'd just remove them from 90% of the loot tables. I have way more than I could ever need and, when acquired legally, you can't even sell them for a single gold piece. I guess at least when they're stolen, they can be fenced for something (though not worth the slot they take for that).

I just love going to The Brass Fortress and walking out with 20 lockpicks, some solvents, crap white gear, and a green alliance racial furnishing plan.

Ots not location as much as who.

victoriana-blue

Have you respecced lately? I find my odds for green or better items go up with the number of skill points I've spent in legerdemain, not just levelling.

I haven't noticed a difference in the ratio of loot qualities since the patch, I'm still about 35/45/15/5 over three or four hours. But that was pickpocketing, not containers, and my thief has the treasure hunter passive.

Jhalin wrote: »

It's also causes walking NPCs to double back to where you picked them, instead of pausing for a moment like they used to. It's annoying and I KNOW they aren't going to fix it within the year.

I've noticed this bug, except sometimes it looks like rubber banding instead of walking (which is really strange when nothing else in view skips around).