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bombing in pvp

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oMrRust
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this is something that should not have been buffed.
Zos, now you have allowed people even more to exploit this and instantly kill 30+ players at once.
making it near impossible to take a scroll back that's in a enemy keep, 2-4 people stack up and instantly drop 30-50 players.
It's even possible just for 1 person to do this.

Why buff it & encourage this even more?
  • Domander
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    Sounds fun, um, you may want to spread out a bit more.....
  • Minalan
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    Domander wrote: »
    Sounds fun, um, you may want to spread out a bit more.....

    But then I can’t crutch on the 20 healers grouped with me!
  • oMrRust
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    Domander wrote: »
    Sounds fun, um, you may want to spread out a bit more.....

    Kinda hard to spread out when there is like 40 ep. 40 ad or 40 dc stacked in a keep.
  • jlboozer
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    I like the change, but I also mostly pvp solo
  • Tan9oSuccka
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    Domander wrote: »
    Sounds fun, um, you may want to spread out a bit more.....

    Yes. Lots of places to spread out when taking flags inside a confined keep.
  • Jamini
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    The OP:

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    "Adapt. or Die."
  • Jamini
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    Tan9oSuccka wrote: »
    Domander wrote: »
    Sounds fun, um, you may want to spread out a bit more.....

    Yes. Lots of places to spread out when taking flags inside a confined keep.

    Did you know, flag capture rate is capped? IIRC, It's something around six people. Any more people on the flag is just a waste.

    Same with rams.
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  • Lotka
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    time for the bomb build... >:)
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  • Draxys
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    It hasn’t been directly buffed, people just don’t get the crutch of artificial mitigation now. But to be frank, if you have enough impen/resist and have decent awareness and reaction time, you shouldn’t really notice a difference; at least not concerning how effective it is against you personally.
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  • Lieblingsjunge
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    If you die to a bomber, when you're stacked with 40 allies - you deserve to die. Bombers will vanish the second people(read: Puglings) get a brain and stop stacking 100 people in the last emperor keep - or in a scroll keep or whatever.

    Don't stack > Don't get bombed. Such a simple solution.
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  • Teeba_Shei
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    oMrRust wrote: »
    Domander wrote: »
    Sounds fun, um, you may want to spread out a bit more.....

    Kinda hard to spread out when there is like 40 ep. 40 ad or 40 dc stacked in a keep.

    If 40 of them are stacked they will die instantly according to the OP.
  • oMrRust
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    Before this patch, there was already enough bombing.. but now it's nearly 70-80 % chance there going to be a bomb.
    and there'll be more zergs grouping up and bombing,
    It's just getting to be pointless to go into pvp knowing there'll b
    Lieblingsjunge wrote: »
    If you die to a bomber, when you're stacked with 40 allies - you deserve to die. Bombers will vanish the second people(read: Puglings) get a brain and stop stacking 100 people in the last emperor keep - or in a scroll keep or whatever.

    Don't stack > Don't get bombed. Such a simple solution.

    and when do you expect this to happen? everyone usually stacks and it'll never stop.
    outposts, it's impossible to spread out with zergs all around the inside.
    keeps, can be difficult to spread out with 2 large zergs are inside.
  • Koolio
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    oMrRust wrote: »
    this is something that should not have been buffed.
    Zos, now you have allowed people even more to exploit this and instantly kill 30+ players at once.
    making it near impossible to take a scroll back that's in a enemy keep, 2-4 people stack up and instantly drop 30-50 players.
    It's even possible just for 1 person to do this.

    Why buff it & encourage this even more?

    Why should people get a free 50% 75% 100% Damage reduction for outnumbering other people.

    Maybe you not getting killed like this for the past 2 years is the “exploit”
  • Lieblingsjunge
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    oMrRust wrote: »
    Before this patch, there was already enough bombing.. but now it's nearly 70-80 % chance there going to be a bomb.
    and there'll be more zergs grouping up and bombing,
    It's just getting to be pointless to go into pvp knowing there'll b
    Lieblingsjunge wrote: »
    If you die to a bomber, when you're stacked with 40 allies - you deserve to die. Bombers will vanish the second people(read: Puglings) get a brain and stop stacking 100 people in the last emperor keep - or in a scroll keep or whatever.

    Don't stack > Don't get bombed. Such a simple solution.

    and when do you expect this to happen? everyone usually stacks and it'll never stop.
    outposts, it's impossible to spread out with zergs all around the inside.
    keeps, can be difficult to spread out with 2 large zergs are inside.

    I'm not expecting anything, hence why bomb-groups are able to get 100k+ AP/Hour with coordinated efforts. People just have to stop and you - as a player - can stop stacking.
    If you're fighting a bomb-group, here's what you do:
    If the bomb-group is flipping flags, you avoid standing on one of the flags with your 50 allies.
    If the bomb-group is running up the stairs, you jump down to flag - and avoid stacking with 50 allies.

    It's really easy to survive against a bomb-group in a keep. You basically know in 95% of the cases what they'll do next or where they'll push. Just go somewhere else where there's not 50 allies and you'll be fine.
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  • Luigi_Vampa
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    ZOS wants people to spread out. L2P and maybe you won't need to rely on superior numbers.
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  • generalmyrick
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    oMrRust wrote: »
    this is something that should not have been buffed.
    Zos, now you have allowed people even more to exploit this and instantly kill 30+ players at once.
    making it near impossible to take a scroll back that's in a enemy keep, 2-4 people stack up and instantly drop 30-50 players.
    It's even possible just for 1 person to do this.

    Why buff it & encourage this even more?

    stop standing in groups of 50 and spread out?
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  • Tan9oSuccka
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    Jamini wrote: »
    Tan9oSuccka wrote: »
    Domander wrote: »
    Sounds fun, um, you may want to spread out a bit more.....

    Yes. Lots of places to spread out when taking flags inside a confined keep.

    Did you know, flag capture rate is capped? IIRC, It's something around six people. Any more people on the flag is just a waste.

    Same with rams.

    Yes. It should be interesting. Eye/proxy bombing was already getting pretty stupid.

    I don’t agree with introducing this in PvP. Punish people for teamwork and playing the objectives for large scale type battles.

    I’m indifferent for people using it. Last time I fell victim was an Emp and 10 of his scrub buddies running the same setup. Not much you can do.

  • Hurtfan
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    Avoiding a bomb is easy like everyone said, that's why you never see a ton of people get killed by them....L2P

    Sarcasm aside, even good veteran players and groups get wiped by bombs.

    I say fight fire with fire, time to go back to my bomb build.

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  • The_Brosteen
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    oMrRust wrote: »
    this is something that should not have been buffed.
    Zos, now you have allowed people even more to exploit this and instantly kill 30+ players at once.
    making it near impossible to take a scroll back that's in a enemy keep, 2-4 people stack up and instantly drop 30-50 players.
    It's even possible just for 1 person to do this.

    Why buff it & encourage this even more?

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  • Lotka
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    You don't change people. You adapt to the change or die. Put bluntly, whining isn't going to get you far.
    Edited by Lotka on February 15, 2018 9:24PM
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  • ak_pvp
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    Good.

    Either get a better build, or stop stacking in keeps.

    No more free benefits just for being a zergling. Your zerg will still prevail and res everyone around or respawn near by and come back in full force.
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  • LordSemaj
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  • Recremen
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    Draxys wrote: »
    It hasn’t been directly buffed, people just don’t get the crutch of artificial mitigation now. But to be frank, if you have enough impen/resist and have decent awareness and reaction time, you shouldn’t really notice a difference; at least not concerning how effective it is against you personally.

    Completely agree here. Had official raid night last night, and at worst we noticed that things were ever-so-slightly burstier, but not by a lot. So, you know, exactly what PvP veterans have been saying for a while.
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  • KingYogi415
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    This is intended to keep numbers from being the only thing deciding battles.

    you 24 mans zergs need to spread out and your use skill to play, not just "stack on crown."
    Edited by KingYogi415 on February 15, 2018 10:52PM
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    Edited by Warraxx on February 15, 2018 9:50PM
  • NyassaV
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    QQ technically it was nerfed cuz Destro ult lost radius. I tend to use tether anyways
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  • Bhaal5
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    oMrRust wrote: »
    Domander wrote: »
    Sounds fun, um, you may want to spread out a bit more.....

    Kinda hard to spread out when there is like 40 ep. 40 ad or 40 dc stacked in a keep.

    Those numbers in eso is normally a automatic lag out and straight back at the intro screen. So i wouldnt worry about the aoe :D
  • ParaNostram
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    oMrRust wrote: »
    Domander wrote: »
    Sounds fun, um, you may want to spread out a bit more.....

    Kinda hard to spread out when there is like 40 ep. 40 ad or 40 dc stacked in a keep.

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  • TequilaFire
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    Now maybe people will stop standing idle on resource flags and all sorcs will finally slot and use negate.
  • Coggo
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    When waiting for a flag to flip: Block, drop a rune focus, spam shields, pop spiked armour or whatever form of prophylactic damage mitigation you run. I don't bomb but consider bombers an intrinsic part of the flora & fauna of a war zone.
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