We don't want the update on console you can keep it including bugs

Fermian

You also have to look at the bigger picture here. Dont focus on the effects of one update. Most if not all people agree the game improved a lot since launch.

AMeanOne

I really really don't want this patch to come out for console. At this point they shouldn't even be able to release the patch to us knowing how much is broken in it. And then console players will have to wait longer than PC players for fixes

Anotherone773

For those console players that say " dont care about the bugs, they dont affect my gameplay"....
After the patch:

* PC EU players lost the game for about 18 hours instead of the typical 5 or 6( btw 6 hours for a patch in a mmo is ridiculous thats double the average time it takes to add an xpack patch to many MMOs that ive played)

*PC NA Steam players have lost the game for about 20 hours and counting.

* PC EU Steam players have lost the game for 18 hours and then 20 hours and counting.

*Guess what? All console accounts are linked accounts, Steam is also linked.

* Its only thursday. The patch has been live for a little over 72 hours. PC EU steam players have only been able to play 50% of the time since servers went down for patch. While PC NA steam players have only be able to play about 66% of the time.

* Add all the bugs you see on the forums on top of this.

Be afraid....be very afraid of this patch.

EvilAutoTech

This is all speculation but I think:

If the DLC has been certified by MS/Sony, it will launch when scheduled. Nothing we post will change that.

MS/Sony could refuse to certify the broken DLC until it is patched. That is what we need to hope for.

If the DLC goes live, we will have to install it to play at all. We are not able to get to character selection until the content is installed.

Since the repair will have to be certified, it will take another three to four weeks for the repair, even if the repair is ready by the release of the DLC.

Personally, I would like to get my hands on the storage chests and the outfit system but I'm able to manage now so I can wait until they get it right.

Kalante

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

Apache_Kid wrote: »

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

Jhalin wrote: »

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

For the record:

I am on console, and I did not vote for the OP to be the Representative for Console Players Everywhere.

I'm ready for the patch.

Today on "Spot the Guy Who's in for an Unpleasant Realization" pt.2

Meh.

- I don't PvP, so I'll have no issues there. NO IC = no issues.
- I don't bar swap, ever, so there's no issues there.
- My CP is plenty high 630+, so even if CP are "underewarded", I'll survive just fine.
- Even if my Characters are a bit weakened, my wife and I team up constantly, so with both of us cracking away, mobs/Bosses still won't be an issue.
- I'm excited for the House Storage, and it's been quite a long time since I've deleted any characters. So again, no issues there.
- I'm probably not going to use the one free outfit slot on any more than 2-3 characters, so I can afford the Gold for that. But once per character is all I need, so even the Gold isn't much of an issue (and no, I don't have millions of Gold, my characters are pretty damn poor to be honest).
- I only have one Vampire, and he's used only to give bites out. So any changes to Vamps will not affect him.
- I already know a ton of "rare" motif's completely, so I won't have to worry about price spikes from guild traders.
- I have no NB's.
- I have no DK's.
- My Magicka Templars will be just fine with the minimal changes coming to them.

So... yeah.

I'm having trouble finding where I should be having issues with the upcoming DLC/Update/Patch.

Well you know there's like a million other players who will have issues with those things.

Also LOL what do you mean you don't bar swap????

This might seem a bit selfish, but what "may affect millions of other players", still does not affect me. So I can still afford to be excited for the Update/Patch.

And it is as it says.

I don't bar swap. I have no secondary weapon equipped on any of my Magicka Templars. I have my mian primary weapon, one bar of Skills, and that's it.

My Skill rotation does plenty of damage, plus it heals me while I'm cranking it out. My wife runs a Sorcerer who only has the one Skill bar for her DPS and Pets as well. Between the two of us, overland mobs are still laughably easy.

We roll through Delves and Public Dungeons just fine, just the two of us. We can even make it through most of the 4- Man group dungeons, just the two of us (though I will admit, the 4-man dungeons do provide us with a challenge, but every so often we -want- that challenge).

We don't PvP, we don't run the 12-man Trials. We don't do Undaunted... anything.

What we have, works well for us. And that does not include feeling as if a second set of weaponry and the associated second bar skill set is necessary in any way.

So no, I don't bar swap.

I really hope you are joking but i know you are not.

Uriel_Nocturne

Kalante wrote: »

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

Apache_Kid wrote: »

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

Jhalin wrote: »

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

For the record:

I am on console, and I did not vote for the OP to be the Representative for Console Players Everywhere.

I'm ready for the patch.

Today on "Spot the Guy Who's in for an Unpleasant Realization" pt.2

Meh.

- I don't PvP, so I'll have no issues there. NO IC = no issues.
- I don't bar swap, ever, so there's no issues there.
- My CP is plenty high 630+, so even if CP are "underewarded", I'll survive just fine.
- Even if my Characters are a bit weakened, my wife and I team up constantly, so with both of us cracking away, mobs/Bosses still won't be an issue.
- I'm excited for the House Storage, and it's been quite a long time since I've deleted any characters. So again, no issues there.
- I'm probably not going to use the one free outfit slot on any more than 2-3 characters, so I can afford the Gold for that. But once per character is all I need, so even the Gold isn't much of an issue (and no, I don't have millions of Gold, my characters are pretty damn poor to be honest).
- I only have one Vampire, and he's used only to give bites out. So any changes to Vamps will not affect him.
- I already know a ton of "rare" motif's completely, so I won't have to worry about price spikes from guild traders.
- I have no NB's.
- I have no DK's.
- My Magicka Templars will be just fine with the minimal changes coming to them.

So... yeah.

I'm having trouble finding where I should be having issues with the upcoming DLC/Update/Patch.

Well you know there's like a million other players who will have issues with those things.

Also LOL what do you mean you don't bar swap????

This might seem a bit selfish, but what "may affect millions of other players", still does not affect me. So I can still afford to be excited for the Update/Patch.

And it is as it says.

I don't bar swap. I have no secondary weapon equipped on any of my Magicka Templars. I have my mian primary weapon, one bar of Skills, and that's it.

My Skill rotation does plenty of damage, plus it heals me while I'm cranking it out. My wife runs a Sorcerer who only has the one Skill bar for her DPS and Pets as well. Between the two of us, overland mobs are still laughably easy.

We roll through Delves and Public Dungeons just fine, just the two of us. We can even make it through most of the 4- Man group dungeons, just the two of us (though I will admit, the 4-man dungeons do provide us with a challenge, but every so often we -want- that challenge).

We don't PvP, we don't run the 12-man Trials. We don't do Undaunted... anything.

What we have, works well for us. And that does not include feeling as if a second set of weaponry and the associated second bar skill set is necessary in any way.

So no, I don't bar swap.

I really hope you are joking but i know you are not. Creatures like this actually exist.

Why would you hope that?

"Creatures"...

Condescending arrogance at its finest.

The_Brosteen

Whats going to be awesome is if that IC experience bug comes out to console. That'd be hilarious.

disintegr8

Thogard wrote: »

If you PvP at a high level, you will not like the patch. Everything is just off, especially with CC.

Whatever they did with synergies being off GCD also *** with how CC break frees and weapon swaps interact with the GCD. Knockbacks are just completely messed up right now, but only in laggy situations.

And everything now is laggy

If you’re a PvE’er that wants to look pretty, then it’s a great patch. The outfit system is pretty cool.

I definitely do not PVP at a high level and being on console in Australia, am used to lag....

disintegr8

Kalante wrote: »

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

Apache_Kid wrote: »

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

Jhalin wrote: »

Uriel_Nocturne wrote: »

For the record:

I am on console, and I did not vote for the OP to be the Representative for Console Players Everywhere.

I'm ready for the patch.

Today on "Spot the Guy Who's in for an Unpleasant Realization" pt.2

Meh.

- I don't PvP, so I'll have no issues there. NO IC = no issues.
- I don't bar swap, ever, so there's no issues there.
- My CP is plenty high 630+, so even if CP are "underewarded", I'll survive just fine.
- Even if my Characters are a bit weakened, my wife and I team up constantly, so with both of us cracking away, mobs/Bosses still won't be an issue.
- I'm excited for the House Storage, and it's been quite a long time since I've deleted any characters. So again, no issues there.
- I'm probably not going to use the one free outfit slot on any more than 2-3 characters, so I can afford the Gold for that. But once per character is all I need, so even the Gold isn't much of an issue (and no, I don't have millions of Gold, my characters are pretty damn poor to be honest).
- I only have one Vampire, and he's used only to give bites out. So any changes to Vamps will not affect him.
- I already know a ton of "rare" motif's completely, so I won't have to worry about price spikes from guild traders.
- I have no NB's.
- I have no DK's.
- My Magicka Templars will be just fine with the minimal changes coming to them.

So... yeah.

I'm having trouble finding where I should be having issues with the upcoming DLC/Update/Patch.

Well you know there's like a million other players who will have issues with those things.

Also LOL what do you mean you don't bar swap????

This might seem a bit selfish, but what "may affect millions of other players", still does not affect me. So I can still afford to be excited for the Update/Patch.

And it is as it says.

I don't bar swap. I have no secondary weapon equipped on any of my Magicka Templars. I have my mian primary weapon, one bar of Skills, and that's it.

My Skill rotation does plenty of damage, plus it heals me while I'm cranking it out. My wife runs a Sorcerer who only has the one Skill bar for her DPS and Pets as well. Between the two of us, overland mobs are still laughably easy.

We roll through Delves and Public Dungeons just fine, just the two of us. We can even make it through most of the 4- Man group dungeons, just the two of us (though I will admit, the 4-man dungeons do provide us with a challenge, but every so often we -want- that challenge).

We don't PvP, we don't run the 12-man Trials. We don't do Undaunted... anything.

What we have, works well for us. And that does not include feeling as if a second set of weaponry and the associated second bar skill set is necessary in any way.

So no, I don't bar swap.

I really hope you are joking but i know you are not.

If someone is happy completing what they want, how they want, and it doesn't affect you, why be patronizing?

Colecovision

disintegr8 wrote: »

I want the patch for the following reasons:
- I want the storage boxes and have no plans to delete any characters.
- I do not go into IC
- I am near 1000 CP, so do not care if CP is being 'under' awarded elsewhere.
- If bar swapping in PVP is bugged, it will affect my opponents more than me and I might live longer.
- I do not need more than 1 outfit slot per character.
- I have more gold than I need to pay for as many outfit changes as I want.
- I already know most motifs, so will be selling motifs rather than buying them.
- I am not a werewolf.
- I am not currently playing my NB's
- My DK's are tanks.

Do you log in? Do you use wayshrines? Do you dare change toons? Or go to a house? Do you change zones? If so, this update sucks, at the moment. I really love the update when I’m not watching the loading screen and most of the bugs didn’t hit me. But for now, I’m fishing and getting around on horse back because neither of those go to a loading screen. The content of this update is fantastic imo, but it’s a “soon” situation.

Jake1576

Colecovision wrote: »

disintegr8 wrote: »

I want the patch for the following reasons:
- I want the storage boxes and have no plans to delete any characters.
- I do not go into IC
- I am near 1000 CP, so do not care if CP is being 'under' awarded elsewhere.
- If bar swapping in PVP is bugged, it will affect my opponents more than me and I might live longer.
- I do not need more than 1 outfit slot per character.
- I have more gold than I need to pay for as many outfit changes as I want.
- I already know most motifs, so will be selling motifs rather than buying them.
- I am not a werewolf.
- I am not currently playing my NB's
- My DK's are tanks.

Do you log in? Do you use wayshrines? Do you dare change toons? Or go to a house? Do you change zones? If so, this update sucks, at the moment. I really love the update when I’m not watching the loading screen and most of the bugs didn’t hit me. But for now, I’m fishing and getting around on horse back because neither of those go to a loading screen. The content of this update is fantastic imo, but it’s a “soon” situation.

This just puts it into perspective and sounds horrible I really hope they delay they update for us console players until all issues are fixed with it

Karivaa

Hurtfan wrote: »

I don't want this patch to be implemented if it means you can't bar swap in PvP...talk about ruining PvP, this would do it

You can keep the new content if this is the case...

We already can’t bar swap half the time in pvp. This bug would just ruin it. The loading screen bug on console ensured many people left the game.

Anotherone773

Jake1576 wrote: »

Colecovision wrote: »

disintegr8 wrote: »

I want the patch for the following reasons:
- I want the storage boxes and have no plans to delete any characters.
- I do not go into IC
- I am near 1000 CP, so do not care if CP is being 'under' awarded elsewhere.
- If bar swapping in PVP is bugged, it will affect my opponents more than me and I might live longer.
- I do not need more than 1 outfit slot per character.
- I have more gold than I need to pay for as many outfit changes as I want.
- I already know most motifs, so will be selling motifs rather than buying them.
- I am not a werewolf.
- I am not currently playing my NB's
- My DK's are tanks.

Do you log in? Do you use wayshrines? Do you dare change toons? Or go to a house? Do you change zones? If so, this update sucks, at the moment. I really love the update when I’m not watching the loading screen and most of the bugs didn’t hit me. But for now, I’m fishing and getting around on horse back because neither of those go to a loading screen. The content of this update is fantastic imo, but it’s a “soon” situation.

This just puts it into perspective and sounds horrible I really hope they delay they update for us console players until all issues are fixed with it

Yeah its not fun. Transitions take at least 15 seconds minimum now and ive went over 45 seconds with no apparent issues with lag at the time. Going to the character screen ive had to wait 20-30 seconds AFTER the 10 second countdown before it would even switch to the loading screen. I just sat there with the black countdown box on my screen for that long. Ive actually been logged completely out of the game several times while just going to the character loading screen. Ive had a couple of crashes and if i could harvest all the bugs their are in game now, id have enough insect parts to catch every fish in Tamriel twice. I just found a new one today with graphics in abahs landing. I was running up stairs that had no stairs nor texture. just a white slope.Everything else was loaded and fine but those stairs. Then i was in the double thimble in Abahs doing a little five finger discount shopping and i noticed that entire sacks where missing, also some of the crates of carpet where gone. And when i went upstairs a sack was missing and one of the hidey holes was non existent. It was really weird. When i logged out and back in everything was back. Its a bug i never had before.

This patch is a disaster.

Jake1576

Anotherone773 wrote: »

Jake1576 wrote: »

Colecovision wrote: »

disintegr8 wrote: »

I want the patch for the following reasons:
- I want the storage boxes and have no plans to delete any characters.
- I do not go into IC
- I am near 1000 CP, so do not care if CP is being 'under' awarded elsewhere.
- If bar swapping in PVP is bugged, it will affect my opponents more than me and I might live longer.
- I do not need more than 1 outfit slot per character.
- I have more gold than I need to pay for as many outfit changes as I want.
- I already know most motifs, so will be selling motifs rather than buying them.
- I am not a werewolf.
- I am not currently playing my NB's
- My DK's are tanks.

Do you log in? Do you use wayshrines? Do you dare change toons? Or go to a house? Do you change zones? If so, this update sucks, at the moment. I really love the update when I’m not watching the loading screen and most of the bugs didn’t hit me. But for now, I’m fishing and getting around on horse back because neither of those go to a loading screen. The content of this update is fantastic imo, but it’s a “soon” situation.

This just puts it into perspective and sounds horrible I really hope they delay they update for us console players until all issues are fixed with it

Yeah its not fun. Transitions take at least 15 seconds minimum now and ive went over 45 seconds with no apparent issues with lag at the time. Going to the character screen ive had to wait 20-30 seconds AFTER the 10 second countdown before it would even switch to the loading screen. I just sat there with the black countdown box on my screen for that long. Ive actually been logged completely out of the game several times while just going to the character loading screen. Ive had a couple of crashes and if i could harvest all the bugs their are in game now, id have enough insect parts to catch every fish in Tamriel twice. I just found a new one today with graphics in abahs landing. I was running up stairs that had no stairs nor texture. just a white slope.Everything else was loaded and fine but those stairs. Then i was in the double thimble in Abahs doing a little five finger discount shopping and i noticed that entire sacks where missing, also some of the crates of carpet where gone. And when i went upstairs a sack was missing and one of the hidey holes was non existent. It was really weird. When i logged out and back in everything was back. Its a bug i never had before.

This patch is a disaster.

Sounds like chaos I only hope it doesn't make it to console with all the issues it has

Zbigb4life

Palidon wrote: »

You console players might be in for a mess. The PC version is riddled with bugs many of which were already known during PTS testing but still went live.

Yes it is always the same. I don't understand why they have the PTS when these issues are in the live version...

Morgul667

disintegr8 wrote: »

I want the patch for the following reasons:
- I want the storage boxes and have no plans to delete any characters.
- I do not go into IC
- I am near 1000 CP, so do not care if CP is being 'under' awarded elsewhere.
- If bar swapping in PVP is bugged, it will affect my opponents more than me and I might live longer.
- I do not need more than 1 outfit slot per character.
- I have more gold than I need to pay for as many outfit changes as I want.
- I already know most motifs, so will be selling motifs rather than buying them.
- I am not a werewolf.
- I am not currently playing my NB's
- My DK's are tanks.

And yet storage is broken so you may loose the items you put in it

Shad0wfire99

Palidon wrote: »

You console players might be in for a mess. The PC version is riddled with bugs many of which were already known during PTS testing but still went live.

ZoS released broken content that they knew was broken weeks beforehand? That doesn't sound like them at all.

Jake1576

Shad0wfire99 wrote: »

Palidon wrote: »

You console players might be in for a mess. The PC version is riddled with bugs many of which were already known during PTS testing but still went live.

ZoS released broken content that they knew was broken weeks beforehand? That doesn't sound like them at all.

Yeah lol

Hurtfan

Karivaa wrote: »

Hurtfan wrote: »

I don't want this patch to be implemented if it means you can't bar swap in PvP...talk about ruining PvP, this would do it

You can keep the new content if this is the case...

We already can’t bar swap half the time in pvp. This bug would just ruin it. The loading screen bug on console ensured many people left the game.

Agreed and PvP is why I play the game. It's such a teaser because if PvP ran well I would probably be here until they shut the servers down.

Tandor

Apart from the extra few seconds for the "Play" button to appear on the launcher, I haven't encountered any bugs or issues with the update yet. PvE questing with a variety of characters and levels has been fine.

An interesting exercise would be to gather some players together who aren't allowed to read the patch notes and then invite them to list the changes they note to their characters after an update - I doubt they'd be able to mention even 10% of them. Too many forum posters react to what they've read rather than to how the game actually plays!

I also think that on PC a lot of the issues that players report immediately after an update are as a result of their addons not having been updated. They get sorted in time. Personally, I don't use addons at all so those sorts of issues aren't going to arise for me, and console users won't be affected by them either.

Kuramas9tails

............people will always complain...................

IwakuraLain42

According to Gina in yesterday's ESO Live some bugs will be fixed in the Console update (bar swap) while some are not (Vvardenfell/CWC loading screens). It was a bit hard to keep up and they didn't said these infos all the time. Will rewatch the twitch recording later.
I really hope that they will fix the other issues in an emergency patch because we will be stuck with these issues for 6 weeks ....

klowdy1

Jake1576 wrote: »

Can we just not get the update on console please I've been reading the forums and seeing nothing but people complaining about it bugs bugs and more bugs we don't want it can you guys just keep it @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom I'm serious lol

I'm sure since you asked so nicely, ZoS will just skip this one for consoles, creating an entirely different game, missing parts from the original.

Also, I doubt you speak for every console player. Get used to bugs, because every MMO (and many single player console games) I have ever played has them.

pod88kk

I don't know what the OP is on about I'm really looking forward to downloading a 30-40gb dlc worth of bugs on my 1mb/s internet which will render it unplayable for 48 hours then the following week miss a day for "maintenance" all for 1 monster set that'll up my dps. That's unless I say f+#k it all & venture to the sewers on a lvl 10 character and look at a mob with a sideways glance & become level 50.

disintegr8

Anotherone773 wrote: »

Jake1576 wrote: »

Colecovision wrote: »

disintegr8 wrote: »

I want the patch for the following reasons:
- I want the storage boxes and have no plans to delete any characters.
- I do not go into IC
- I am near 1000 CP, so do not care if CP is being 'under' awarded elsewhere.
- If bar swapping in PVP is bugged, it will affect my opponents more than me and I might live longer.
- I do not need more than 1 outfit slot per character.
- I have more gold than I need to pay for as many outfit changes as I want.
- I already know most motifs, so will be selling motifs rather than buying them.
- I am not a werewolf.
- I am not currently playing my NB's
- My DK's are tanks.

Do you log in? Do you use wayshrines? Do you dare change toons? Or go to a house? Do you change zones? If so, this update sucks, at the moment. I really love the update when I’m not watching the loading screen and most of the bugs didn’t hit me. But for now, I’m fishing and getting around on horse back because neither of those go to a loading screen. The content of this update is fantastic imo, but it’s a “soon” situation.

This just puts it into perspective and sounds horrible I really hope they delay they update for us console players until all issues are fixed with it

Yeah its not fun. Transitions take at least 15 seconds minimum now and ive went over 45 seconds with no apparent issues with lag at the time. Going to the character screen ive had to wait 20-30 seconds AFTER the 10 second countdown before it would even switch to the loading screen. I just sat there with the black countdown box on my screen for that long. Ive actually been logged completely out of the game several times while just going to the character loading screen. Ive had a couple of crashes and if i could harvest all the bugs their are in game now, id have enough insect parts to catch every fish in Tamriel twice. I just found a new one today with graphics in abahs landing. I was running up stairs that had no stairs nor texture. just a white slope.Everything else was loaded and fine but those stairs. Then i was in the double thimble in Abahs doing a little five finger discount shopping and i noticed that entire sacks where missing, also some of the crates of carpet where gone. And when i went upstairs a sack was missing and one of the hidey holes was non existent. It was really weird. When i logged out and back in everything was back. Its a bug i never had before.

This patch is a disaster.

Sounds like most days for me, wonder if I'll notice any difference.

I'm already talking to invisible bankers, traders and stablemasters. For me to simply log on/off 8 characters so my hireling mails get delivered takes at least 10 minutes, regardless of time of day - and that is without opening them, a simple log on/log off.

I timed character logins last night, around about 7pm Melbourne (Aus) time, Sunday night - I think that is 8am Sunday UTC.

From character selection screen to character being logged in was between 50-60 seconds, from character log out to character selection screen (excluding 10 second countdown) was 20-30 seconds. I did this on 4 characters with the same results each time.

Jake1576

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boombazookajd

I want the patch but I am going to give it a few days after downloading to play for things to work themselves out.

Right now I fully expect a Chernobyl style event on consoles. Something won't play well with the game, or other games, or whatever. Something is going to break.

If it doesn't, well thats really great! But I'm preparing for the worst and hoping for the best.