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Does it count as DoT or direct damage? Magicka DK Abilities
Areloth
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Hey guys,
I am not sure about 3 abilities:
- Flames of oblivion: DoT damage or direct damage? I guess DoT?
- Exhale of Draw Essence: DoT or direct damage? I guess direct damage?
- Fossilize: DoT or direct Damage? I guess direct damage?
Would be awesome if someone could clarify this - maybe even with some test results. I think this also helps other players.
And I am not too lazy to test on my own, I just don't have the time at the moment.
Thanks
I am not sure about 3 abilities:
- Flames of oblivion: DoT damage or direct damage? I guess DoT?
- Exhale of Draw Essence: DoT or direct damage? I guess direct damage?
- Fossilize: DoT or direct Damage? I guess direct damage?
Would be awesome if someone could clarify this - maybe even with some test results. I think this also helps other players.
And I am not too lazy to test on my own, I just don't have the time at the moment.
Thanks
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Lynx7386✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Pretty sure all of those are direct damage.
The initial hit for searing strike and engulfing flames are direct damage, while the damage over time isn't.PS4 / NA
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Templars are the same way. Mix of skills with both dot/direct dmg. At least DKs can reliably proc off balance so arguably 75 in tham is better than trying to equally stack tham/master. Build dependant.Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
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I disagree for the Dragons Bones patch. MagDKs can now achieve very high Off Balance (and thus Exploiter) uptime in PVP. 75 in Thaumaturge gives me a very strong Embers DOT, and even if that is the only DOT I use, it gives me 10% extra damage on all other skills (while still leaving enough CP to stack heavily into MaA, Ele Expert, and either spell pen or crit dmg.) Taking points out of Thaum to stack those other stars higher does not result in a 10% damage increase.7-day PVP campaign regular 2016-2019, Flawless Conqueror. MagDK/stamplar/stamwarden/mageblade. Requiem, Legend, Knights of Daggerfall. Currently retired from the wars; waiting on performance improvements.1 -
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I disagree for the Dragons Bones patch. MagDKs can now achieve very high Off Balance (and thus Exploiter) uptime in PVP. 75 in Thaumaturge gives me a very strong Embers DOT, and even if that is the only DOT I use, it gives me 10% extra damage on all other skills (while still leaving enough CP to stack heavily into MaA, Ele Expert, and either spell pen or crit dmg.) Taking points out of Thaum to stack those other stars higher does not result in a 10% damage increase.
How do you achieve high off balance ? For my solo parses I feel like I never proc it.
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✭✭✭Yamenstein wrote: »
I disagree for the Dragons Bones patch. MagDKs can now achieve very high Off Balance (and thus Exploiter) uptime in PVP. 75 in Thaumaturge gives me a very strong Embers DOT, and even if that is the only DOT I use, it gives me 10% extra damage on all other skills (while still leaving enough CP to stack heavily into MaA, Ele Expert, and either spell pen or crit dmg.) Taking points out of Thaum to stack those other stars higher does not result in a 10% damage increase.
How do you achieve high off balance ? For my solo parses I feel like I never proc it.
He said for PvP. In pve the uptime is really low even at max. But on parses trap beast and whip should keep it up as much as possible.MagDK main. PC/EU @AK-ESO
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Areloth✭✭✭
I disagree for the Dragons Bones patch. MagDKs can now achieve very high Off Balance (and thus Exploiter) uptime in PVP. 75 in Thaumaturge gives me a very strong Embers DOT, and even if that is the only DOT I use, it gives me 10% extra damage on all other skills (while still leaving enough CP to stack heavily into MaA, Ele Expert, and either spell pen or crit dmg.) Taking points out of Thaum to stack those other stars higher does not result in a 10% damage increase.
With 75 in Thaumaturg the pretty best pvp CP split you can do is:
75 Thaumaturge
50 Master at arms
55 elemental expert
40 spell erosion
20 elfborn
My tooltip for whip is 9957 and powerlash 11798. --> total: 21755
Powerlash bonus of 10%: 12978 --> total: 22934
My actual CP split:
35 Thaumaturge
65 Master at arms
65 elemental expert
45 spell erosion
30 elfborn
My tooltip for whip is 10324 and powerlash 12232. --> total: 22556
This results in a powerlash bonus of 6% and a total lash bonus of only 1,6%.
With the second setup my proc sets hit harder (valkyn, Caluurion), but also Meteor, fossilize, deep breath, burning ambers + talons first hit, flames of oblivion...
In my opinion its not worth it.
I could take out some points of spell erosion and go for:
75 Thaumaturge
60 Master at arms
60 elemental expert
25 spell erosion
20 elfborn
My tooltip for whip is 10177 and powerlash 12058. --> total: 22235
Powerlash bonus of 10%: 13264 --> total: 23441
Powerlash bonus of 8% and total lash bonus of 4%.
Without losing much damage on the other abilities but we lose 1300 penetration what results in around 2% less damage and we are in the first scenario again.0 -
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I disagree for the Dragons Bones patch. MagDKs can now achieve very high Off Balance (and thus Exploiter) uptime in PVP. 75 in Thaumaturge gives me a very strong Embers DOT, and even if that is the only DOT I use, it gives me 10% extra damage on all other skills (while still leaving enough CP to stack heavily into MaA, Ele Expert, and either spell pen or crit dmg.) Taking points out of Thaum to stack those other stars higher does not result in a 10% damage increase.
With 75 in Thaumaturg the pretty best pvp CP split you can do is:
75 Thaumaturge
50 Master at arms
55 elemental expert
40 spell erosion
20 elfborn
My tooltip for whip is 9957 and powerlash 11798. --> total: 21755
Powerlash bonus of 10%: 12978 --> total: 22934
My actual CP split:
35 Thaumaturge
65 Master at arms
65 elemental expert
45 spell erosion
30 elfborn
My tooltip for whip is 10324 and powerlash 12232. --> total: 22556
This results in a powerlash bonus of 6% and a total lash bonus of only 1,6%.
With the second setup my proc sets hit harder (valkyn, Caluurion), but also Meteor, fossilize, deep breath, burning ambers + talons first hit, flames of oblivion...
In my opinion its not worth it.
I could take out some points of spell erosion and go for:
75 Thaumaturge
60 Master at arms
60 elemental expert
25 spell erosion
20 elfborn
My tooltip for whip is 10177 and powerlash 12058. --> total: 22235
Powerlash bonus of 10%: 13264 --> total: 23441
Powerlash bonus of 8% and total lash bonus of 4%.
Without losing much damage on the other abilities but we lose 1300 penetration what results in around 2% less damage and we are in the first scenario again.
The CP system only respects full percentages, your CP distribution doesn't take advantage of that.
Basically, 18.01% is the same as 18.99%.BawKinTackWarDs PS4/NA1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Edited by Oreyn_Bearclaw on February 14, 2018 10:44PM0 -
Areloth✭✭✭Oh ok...I didnt read the passive correctly.
"Exploiter Increases your damage done against Off Balance enemies by 10%."
So all damage vs offset players is increased, not only my powerlash - ok, that changes my point of view.
75 Thaumaturge
54 Master at arms
55 elemental expert
33 spell erosion
23 elfborn
it is.
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Areloth✭✭✭Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »
You are right, in the past it was only for critical strike damage, now only the digits before the comma count. Important information.
75 Thaumaturge
56 Master at arms
56 elemental expert
30 spell erosion
23 elfborn
it is.
Thanks guys, few hours on the forum and already improved my damage, thats how I like it.1