My 'I give up' magplar build

Datolite

Being creative has not been working for me with pvp builds for my magplar lately. I always seem to be underperforming in one small aspect and can't quite get a well-rounded set of stats. Here is what I've settled on, and I want your opinions on it. It's basically my 'meh' low-effort build that came from trying too hard at min-maxing.

Valkyn Skoria 2x 1med/1 light impen
Shacklebreaker 5x heavy, 3 impen with magicka enchant, 2 infused with tri-glyph enchant
3x Spinner's arcane jewelry, spell damage enchants
2x Spinner's precise swords, spell damage and magicka steal enchants
1x Spinner's powered resto staff, magicka steal enchant (5 pc bonus does not benefit heals right?)
Spell crit mundus, Witchmother's brew, Spell power pots

It's mostly for No-CP BGs. I wanted to check here first cause it's gonna cost a damn fortune. Any thoughts?

Bfish22090

I use 5 alteration masters with s+b /dw. 5 thunderbug 2 pirate skele. Hits hard and with vamp you can be super tanky

Lexxypwns

Spinners+Shackle is good. You’re gonna want SnB back bar though, imo resto doesn’t give you a way to relieve pressure and survive burst. Block casting BoL is just so strong

Minno

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Spinners+Shackle is good. You’re gonna want SnB back bar though, imo resto doesn’t give you a way to relieve pressure and survive burst. Block casting BoL is just so strong

He should backbar ice staff over SnB. Ele drain is too good, especially with dual weld.

Datolite

Lexxypwns wrote: »

Spinners+Shackle is good. You’re gonna want SnB back bar though, imo resto doesn’t give you a way to relieve pressure and survive burst. Block casting BoL is just so strong

I was actually considering this first but figures the 5 pc of Spinner's would be wasted on SnB. Might switch back to that ide, thanks.

Feanor

I‘m gonna do a „I give up“ magSorc build soon too. The build idea is running with a Nord Bath Towel and a Broom with only non-damage non-healing skills on my bars so I don’t hurt sensitive [insert QQ from other classes] feelings any longer and can finally be the free AP they crave.

Datolite

Feanor wrote: »

I‘m gonna do a „I give up“ magSorc build soon too. The build idea is running with a Nord Bath Towel and a Broom with only non-damage non-healing skills on my bars so I don’t hurt sensitive [insert QQ from other classes] feelings any longer and can finally be the free AP they crave.

I will still post nerf threads here.

Neoauspex

datoliteb16_ESO wrote: »

Being creative has not been working for me with pvp builds for my magplar lately. I always seem to be underperforming in one small aspect and can't quite get a well-rounded set of stats.

I feel ya mate, been through so many Magplar build experiments this patch...

jaws343

I run a very similar build. Instead of Shackle, I run Acuity. The Acuity proc does a ton of damage on a magplar.

Neoauspex

jaws343 wrote: »

I run a very similar build. Instead of Shackle, I run Acuity. The Acuity proc does a ton of damage on a magplar.

Ya with this you can run Asylum S/B back bar and skimp a little on regen... Shackle you need on both bars. But with Acuity you're hard countered by shield stackers, end up getting a lot of people to 1% health and then healing ward makes you start all the way over. Like OP said, hard to build a Magplar for all situations this patch.

Minno

Neoauspex wrote: »

jaws343 wrote: »

I run a very similar build. Instead of Shackle, I run Acuity. The Acuity proc does a ton of damage on a magplar.

Ya with this you can run Asylum S/B back bar and skimp a little on regen... Shackle you need on both bars. But with Acuity you're hard countered by shield stackers, end up getting a lot of people to 1% health and then healing ward makes you start all the way over. Like OP said, hard to build a Magplar for all situations this patch.

The better magplar build was Overwelming Surge and lighting staff. Mostly because it let you stay defensive till it proc'd then swap to your offense bar to punish players for staying to close.

That and WoE replaces what old blazing shield used to give us.

Now it's a little harder to find a good all around build, especially with accidental bugs to jabs/sweeps this patch.

Datolite

Minno wrote: »

Neoauspex wrote: »

jaws343 wrote: »

I run a very similar build. Instead of Shackle, I run Acuity. The Acuity proc does a ton of damage on a magplar.

Ya with this you can run Asylum S/B back bar and skimp a little on regen... Shackle you need on both bars. But with Acuity you're hard countered by shield stackers, end up getting a lot of people to 1% health and then healing ward makes you start all the way over. Like OP said, hard to build a Magplar for all situations this patch.

The better magplar build was Overwelming Surge and lighting staff. Mostly because it let you stay defensive till it proc'd then swap to your offense bar to punish players for staying to close.

That and WoE replaces what old blazing shield used to give us.

Now it's a little harder to find a good all around build, especially with accidental bugs to jabs/sweeps this patch.

Why is the Overwhelming Surge build no longer viable? Also what is WoE?

jaws343 wrote: »

I run a very similar build. Instead of Shackle, I run Acuity. The Acuity proc does a ton of damage on a magplar.

How do you keep up sustain? Or is this a CP build?

Minno

datoliteb16_ESO wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

Neoauspex wrote: »

jaws343 wrote: »

I run a very similar build. Instead of Shackle, I run Acuity. The Acuity proc does a ton of damage on a magplar.

Ya with this you can run Asylum S/B back bar and skimp a little on regen... Shackle you need on both bars. But with Acuity you're hard countered by shield stackers, end up getting a lot of people to 1% health and then healing ward makes you start all the way over. Like OP said, hard to build a Magplar for all situations this patch.

The better magplar build was Overwelming Surge and lighting staff. Mostly because it let you stay defensive till it proc'd then swap to your offense bar to punish players for staying to close.

That and WoE replaces what old blazing shield used to give us.

Now it's a little harder to find a good all around build, especially with accidental bugs to jabs/sweeps this patch.

Why is the Overwhelming Surge build no longer viable? Also what is WoE?

jaws343 wrote: »

I run a very similar build. Instead of Shackle, I run Acuity. The Acuity proc does a ton of damage on a magplar.

How do you keep up sustain? Or is this a CP build?

It's not that it isn't viable, it's that in CP PvP, sweeps is being reduced hard by ele defender/thick skin. That Overwelming Surge setup requires sweeps and lighting staff to proc minor vulnerability. So having our main spamable taking a unexpected DMG nerf is tough.

Datolite

God-damn they just can't seem to get sweeps right. Even during the best patches it felt fckin clumsy.

Edit: Let's just make this a templar [snip] thread.

[Edited to remove profanity]

Minno

datoliteb16_ESO wrote: »

God-damn they just can't seem to get sweeps right. Even during the best patches it felt fckin clumsy.

Edit: Let's just make this a templar [snip] thread.

Yea there was a miss communication in what templars were trying to tell wrobel about sweeps/Jesus beam in PvP. Oddly enough there was another bug with similar issues but regarding minor vulnerability in pve settings. So the minor vulnerability bug was fixed and touted as a fix for the issues PvP Templars found.

Except it wasn't fully fixed, and made worse via CP and reduction star bug. Check out the "fix Templar" thread on the pts section for exact numbers. Cinbri's post found only issues with CP PvP settings. Pve and nCP are fine.

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Datolite

Minno wrote: »

datoliteb16_ESO wrote: »

God-damn they just can't seem to get sweeps right. Even during the best patches it felt fckin clumsy.

Edit: Let's just make this a templar [snip] thread.

Yea there was a miss communication in what templars were trying to tell wrobel about sweeps/Jesus beam in PvP. Oddly enough there was another bug with similar issues but regarding minor vulnerability in pve settings. So the minor vulnerability bug was fixed and touted as a fix for the issues PvP Templars found.

Except it wasn't fully fixed, and made worse via CP and reduction star bug. Check out the "fix Templar" thread on the pts section for exact numbers. Cinbri's post found only issues with CP PvP settings. Pve and nCP are fine.

Well then, I know one templar who's gonna be staying in BGs for the next while. I hear the AP in there is pretty sweet anyhow.

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Minno

datoliteb16_ESO wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

datoliteb16_ESO wrote: »

God-damn they just can't seem to get sweeps right. Even during the best patches it felt fckin clumsy.

Edit: Let's just make this a templar [snip] thread.

Yea there was a miss communication in what templars were trying to tell wrobel about sweeps/Jesus beam in PvP. Oddly enough there was another bug with similar issues but regarding minor vulnerability in pve settings. So the minor vulnerability bug was fixed and touted as a fix for the issues PvP Templars found.

Except it wasn't fully fixed, and made worse via CP and reduction star bug. Check out the "fix Templar" thread on the pts section for exact numbers. Cinbri's post found only issues with CP PvP settings. Pve and nCP are fine.

Well then, I know one templar who's gonna be staying in BGs for the next while. I hear the AP in there is pretty sweet anyhow.

Yea I'll be there as well. Might need to swap some enchants/slot another set but I'll be ready!

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Kartalin

I generally prefer lightning destro/sword and shield setup where my damage is ranged and I’m not dependent on trying to land sweeps on elusive targets. Generally setup something like Purifying Light, Reflective Light, Ele Drain, Shock Reach, and Total Dark front bar with shooting star. Basically medium /heavy attacks in between for sustain and more damage. Could use Crushing Shock instead of Shock reach for an actual spammable. Can work with a master or asylum destro and still allow you to back bar a set like Transmutation. Works well with Skoria too. Then just add the 5 piece of your choice to go with.

Minno

Kartalin wrote: »

I generally prefer lightning destro/sword and shield setup where my damage is ranged and I’m not dependent on trying to land sweeps on elusive targets. Generally setup something like Purifying Light, Reflective Light, Ele Drain, Shock Reach, and Total Dark front bar with shooting star. Basically medium /heavy attacks in between for sustain and more damage. Could use Crushing Shock instead of Shock reach for an actual spammable. Can work with a master or asylum destro and still allow you to back bar a set like Transmutation. Works well with Skoria too. Then just add the 5 piece of your choice to go with.

With Miat's gone you might find dark flare coming back.

Nice setup . What you are using for sets?

technohic

Huh. My giveup build involves cowards and fiords farming resources.

Kartalin

Depends. Rattlecage can be good if you have weapons and arcane jewelry for it so you can still go 5-1-1 light and be more damage oriented. Kags is nice for more support/healing, even mixing in Riposte can be good if no one else in group has it. Shacklebreaker is still a good alternative.

My original [url=“https://youtu.be/mcyHzBpLO_Q”]build video[/url] from 7 months ago used 5-1-1 heavy with Rattlecage, Lich, and Skoria. The skills have changed regularly since then though and I’ve really come around to light armor since then.

Kartalin

Dark flare could be fun again, though still not a fan of cast time stuff.

Hutch679

datoliteb16_ESO wrote: »

Feanor wrote: »

I‘m gonna do a „I give up“ magSorc build soon too. The build idea is running with a Nord Bath Towel and a Broom with only non-damage non-healing skills on my bars so I don’t hurt sensitive [insert QQ from other classes] feelings any longer and can finally be the free AP they crave.

I will still post nerf threads here.

BoL is overperforming tbh. Lol

Joy_Division

datoliteb16_ESO wrote: »

Being creative has not been working for me with pvp builds for my magplar lately. I always seem to be underperforming in one small aspect and can't quite get a well-rounded set of stats. Here is what I've settled on, and I want your opinions on it. It's basically my 'meh' low-effort build that came from trying too hard at min-maxing.

Valkyn Skoria 2x 1med/1 light impen
Shacklebreaker 5x heavy, 3 impen with magicka enchant, 2 infused with tri-glyph enchant
3x Spinner's arcane jewelry, spell damage enchants
2x Spinner's precise swords, spell damage and magicka steal enchants
1x Spinner's powered resto staff, magicka steal enchant (5 pc bonus does not benefit heals right?)
Spell crit mundus, Witchmother's brew, Spell power pots

It's mostly for No-CP BGs. I wanted to check here first cause it's gonna cost a damn fortune. Any thoughts?

That's fine until you start getting hit. Templar best defense is block-cast breath of life. Use and Ice Staff if your magicka regen is crazy high. I think Sword and Shield is more efficient because extra armor bonus and I prefer not having my magicka drained defending myself.

Minno

Hutch679 wrote: »

datoliteb16_ESO wrote: »

Feanor wrote: »

I‘m gonna do a „I give up“ magSorc build soon too. The build idea is running with a Nord Bath Towel and a Broom with only non-damage non-healing skills on my bars so I don’t hurt sensitive [insert QQ from other classes] feelings any longer and can finally be the free AP they crave.

I will still post nerf threads here.

BoL is overperforming tbh. Lol

Not against 20k incap with major defile it's not lol.

Datolite

Hutch679 wrote: »

datoliteb16_ESO wrote: »

Feanor wrote: »

I‘m gonna do a „I give up“ magSorc build soon too. The build idea is running with a Nord Bath Towel and a Broom with only non-damage non-healing skills on my bars so I don’t hurt sensitive [insert QQ from other classes] feelings any longer and can finally be the free AP they crave.

I will still post nerf threads here.

BoL is overperforming tbh. Lol

This guy knows how to take a joke... comes into a templar thread whining about people whining about his own class. Give it a rest.

jaws343

datoliteb16_ESO wrote: »

Minno wrote: »

Neoauspex wrote: »

jaws343 wrote: »

I run a very similar build. Instead of Shackle, I run Acuity. The Acuity proc does a ton of damage on a magplar.

Ya with this you can run Asylum S/B back bar and skimp a little on regen... Shackle you need on both bars. But with Acuity you're hard countered by shield stackers, end up getting a lot of people to 1% health and then healing ward makes you start all the way over. Like OP said, hard to build a Magplar for all situations this patch.

The better magplar build was Overwelming Surge and lighting staff. Mostly because it let you stay defensive till it proc'd then swap to your offense bar to punish players for staying to close.

That and WoE replaces what old blazing shield used to give us.

Now it's a little harder to find a good all around build, especially with accidental bugs to jabs/sweeps this patch.

Why is the Overwhelming Surge build no longer viable? Also what is WoE?

jaws343 wrote: »

I run a very similar build. Instead of Shackle, I run Acuity. The Acuity proc does a ton of damage on a magplar.

How do you keep up sustain? Or is this a CP build?

I have only run it CP so far. But I run a destro back bar and use that for sustain and for the EotS ult. I have under 1K regen and it works just fine in CP battlegrounds and open world. It should still work well without regen in no-CP. You are mostly playing with dots and being defensive until acuity procs, and then you unload on a target or two, and then peel back into defense.

Adventurer

What kind of skills do you use?

jaime1982

I have a destro-resto build I main. If I can figure out how to post pics I will post some specs.

Lexxypwns

I play my magplar like @Kartalin tbh, sweeps has always been clunky, it either overperforms because you’re fighting pugs that try to tank it or underperforms because you’re fighting a good player that kites most of it

EdmundTowers

That "I give up build" worked fine for me in cp BGs/Cyro but it has poor sustain in no cp. I use lich instead of spinners for no cp. I use sword and board over resto backbar though. Block takes advantage of all that stam from heavy shackle and constitution.