Good job ZOS, I love the DLC

josiahva

With all the threads complaining about the cosmetic appearance of housing storage, inevitable new bugs, and the cost of the outfit system, I wanted to take a moment to thank ZOS for the update. Sure, there are a few issues, but overall this DLC is great, it gave us 2 new DLC dungeons that I am enjoying...the ability to have my toon look like I want, and housing storage. I just don't see much any reason to complain and honestly it kinda disgusts me that the majority of community is unable to recognize the QOL improvements this patch brings. Feel free to suggest changes to ZOS, but realize we are better off post-patch than pre-patch.

[minor edit for bait]

Lysette

I am happy for you enjoying it, but I am not interested in dungeon DLCs - so for me this is kinda worthless, a wasted opportunity to get some decent region DLC of the normal kind. The promise was "all of Tamriel" - and as long as there is so much missing from "all of Tamriel", I give a damn about dungeon DLCs. Who knows if we will ever get a region DLC again, as they might just put it into a chapter and charge us again for what should be free content for ESO+ subscribers.

Turelus

Aye,

Lysette wrote: »

I am happy for you enjoying it, but I am not interested in dungeon DLCs - so for me this is kinda worthless, a wasted opportunity to get some decent region DLC of the normal kind. The promise was "all of Tamriel" - and as long as there is so much missing from "all of Tamriel", I give a damn about dungeon DLCs. Who knows if we will ever get a region DLC again, as they might just put it into a chapter and charge us again for what should be free content for ESO+ subscribers.

From how 2017 went I think it's pretty clear big regions will be Chapters now and smaller zones will be the DLC. Last year we got two new areas to the world and dungeons which visit another which isn't entirely accessible.

Dungeon content sells well as there are a lot of people who do both PvE dungeons and want new battlegrounds maps, so expect more like these.

DieAlteHexe

Lysette wrote: »

I am happy for you enjoying it, but I am not interested in dungeon DLCs - so for me this is kinda worthless, a wasted opportunity to get some decent region DLC of the normal kind. The promise was "all of Tamriel" - and as long as there is so much missing from "all of Tamriel", I give a damn about dungeon DLCs. Who knows if we will ever get a region DLC again, as they might just put it into a chapter and charge us again for what should be free content for ESO+ subscribers.

I don't do dungeons either but it's nice that content got added for those who do.

MMOs evolve and content isn't always equally added across the board.

OP, good post, makes a change.

ereboz

Great post. They deserve some love. I've always wanted to make use of some of the great looking motifs. And now I can, I look awesome. Love the storage chests. I think they look great. I've only done Scale Caller so far and love it. Great DLC all around. Thank you.

profundidob16_ESO

Lysette wrote: »

I am happy for you enjoying it, but I am not interested in dungeon DLCs - so for me this is kinda worthless, a wasted opportunity to get some decent region DLC of the normal kind. The promise was "all of Tamriel" - and as long as there is so much missing from "all of Tamriel", I give a damn about dungeon DLCs. Who knows if we will ever get a region DLC again, as they might just put it into a chapter and charge us again for what should be free content for ESO+ subscribers.

to me new region dlc's are pointless, there are zones enough to explore and farm till oblivion but not enough DLC dungeons. I've been waiting in vain at morrowind release for new veteran dungeons (not trial) and this I'm finally really happy with this one and especially the fact that they are nicecly done ! Hotr and this are the best expansions for me so as you see we each have our own whishes...;)

profundidob16_ESO

josiahva wrote: »

With all the threads whining and complaining about the cosmetic appearance of housing storage, inevitable new bugs, and the cost of the outfit system, I wanted to take a moment to thank ZOS for the update. Sure, there are a few issues, but overall this DLC is great, it gave us 2 new DLC dungeons that I am enjoying...the ability to have my toon look like I want, and housing storage. I just don't see much any reason to complain and honestly it kinda disgusts me that the majority of community is unable to recognize the QOL improvements this patch brings. Feel free to suggest changes to ZOS, but realize we are better off post-patch than pre-patch.

wait...you are not complainting, not ranting but giving compliments on the forums....have you checked your temperature ? You might be coming down with a fever

Just kidding mate, I love this expansion too. Finally new dungeonzzzzzz

Lysette

profundidob16_ESO wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

I am happy for you enjoying it, but I am not interested in dungeon DLCs - so for me this is kinda worthless, a wasted opportunity to get some decent region DLC of the normal kind. The promise was "all of Tamriel" - and as long as there is so much missing from "all of Tamriel", I give a damn about dungeon DLCs. Who knows if we will ever get a region DLC again, as they might just put it into a chapter and charge us again for what should be free content for ESO+ subscribers.

to me new region dlc's are pointless, there are zones enough to explore and farm till oblivion but not enough DLC dungeons. I've been waiting in vain at morrowind release for new veteran dungeons (not trial) and this I'm finally really happy with this one and especially the fact that they are nicecly done ! Hotr and this are the best expansions for me so as you see we each have our own whishes...;)

Yeah, that is ok, I am happy that you can enjoy it - but at the same time it is sad, that it will take an eternity to ever see "all of Tamriel" and I guess it will never be completed before the game servers will shut down for good some day. Every missed opportunity to add more of Tamriel is making it more and more certain, that the promise of "all of Tamriel" will never come true.

DieAlteHexe

Never say never. Game is not going anywhere and who knows what the future will bring.

Lysette

DieAlteHexe wrote: »

Never say never. Game is not going anywhere and who knows what the future will bring.

Yeah, but where ZOS is really good at is creating aww-inspiring regions, which are so breath-takingly beautiful sometimes, that i forget what I wanted to do and just walk around and look at it, enjoy the atmosphere of it - well, until I will be disconnected and pulled out of immersion like 3-4 times per hour. This is somewhat ruining the experience unfortunately.

josiahva

Lysette wrote: »

profundidob16_ESO wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

I am happy for you enjoying it, but I am not interested in dungeon DLCs - so for me this is kinda worthless, a wasted opportunity to get some decent region DLC of the normal kind. The promise was "all of Tamriel" - and as long as there is so much missing from "all of Tamriel", I give a damn about dungeon DLCs. Who knows if we will ever get a region DLC again, as they might just put it into a chapter and charge us again for what should be free content for ESO+ subscribers.

to me new region dlc's are pointless, there are zones enough to explore and farm till oblivion but not enough DLC dungeons. I've been waiting in vain at morrowind release for new veteran dungeons (not trial) and this I'm finally really happy with this one and especially the fact that they are nicecly done ! Hotr and this are the best expansions for me so as you see we each have our own whishes...;)

Yeah, that is ok, I am happy that you can enjoy it - but at the same time it is sad, that it will take an eternity to ever see "all of Tamriel" and I guess it will never be completed before the game servers will shut down for good some day. Every missed opportunity to add more of Tamriel is making it more and more certain, that the promise of "all of Tamriel" will never come true.

Considering we can access most of Tamriel already and Somerset Isles coming out next chapter, I don't see how you can say never. On that note...overland content does not hold much appeal past playing through the quests once...overland is just too easy, and trials are just too meta....which is why I like my small-group difficult content best. I wouldn't mind overland if they added an optional "vet" difficulty to it.

ZOS_Holden

Hi @josiahva,

Thank so much for your kind words, we're really glad to hear you're enjoying the new content!

We appreciate your feedback and the fact that you left the discussion open for varying view points. We do truly appreciate all feedback, whether it's constructive feedback criticism or compliments and praise, we can't wait to see more of what everyone thinks of the new content so far.

vyndral13preub18_ESO

profundidob16_ESO wrote: »

josiahva wrote: »

With all the threads whining and complaining about the cosmetic appearance of housing storage, inevitable new bugs, and the cost of the outfit system, I wanted to take a moment to thank ZOS for the update. Sure, there are a few issues, but overall this DLC is great, it gave us 2 new DLC dungeons that I am enjoying...the ability to have my toon look like I want, and housing storage. I just don't see much any reason to complain and honestly it kinda disgusts me that the majority of community is unable to recognize the QOL improvements this patch brings. Feel free to suggest changes to ZOS, but realize we are better off post-patch than pre-patch.

wait...you are not complainting, not ranting but giving compliments on the forums....have you checked your temperature ? You might be coming down with a fever

Just kidding mate, I love this expansion too. Finally new dungeonzzzzzz

They spend just as much time complaining, if not more, as they do thanking ZOS.

magictucktuck

Agreed

thedude33

Lysette wrote: »

profundidob16_ESO wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

I am happy for you enjoying it, but I am not interested in dungeon DLCs - so for me this is kinda worthless, a wasted opportunity to get some decent region DLC of the normal kind. The promise was "all of Tamriel" - and as long as there is so much missing from "all of Tamriel", I give a damn about dungeon DLCs. Who knows if we will ever get a region DLC again, as they might just put it into a chapter and charge us again for what should be free content for ESO+ subscribers.

to me new region dlc's are pointless, there are zones enough to explore and farm till oblivion but not enough DLC dungeons. I've been waiting in vain at morrowind release for new veteran dungeons (not trial) and this I'm finally really happy with this one and especially the fact that they are nicecly done ! Hotr and this are the best expansions for me so as you see we each have our own whishes...;)

Yeah, that is ok, I am happy that you can enjoy it - but at the same time it is sad, that it will take an eternity to ever see "all of Tamriel" and I guess it will never be completed before the game servers will shut down for good some day. Every missed opportunity to add more of Tamriel is making it more and more certain, that the promise of "all of Tamriel" will never come true.

You are complaining about too much content?

thedude33

Agree with you OP. Some people complain for the sake of complaining.

I can just hear someone in the coffee shop complaining to their friend about having to move and all the hassles when it comes to moving. The friend asks then why move? The complainer says because we won 10 million dollars in the lottery so we are moving to Maui ..what a nightmare !!

Lysette

thedude33 wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

profundidob16_ESO wrote: »

Lysette wrote: »

I am happy for you enjoying it, but I am not interested in dungeon DLCs - so for me this is kinda worthless, a wasted opportunity to get some decent region DLC of the normal kind. The promise was "all of Tamriel" - and as long as there is so much missing from "all of Tamriel", I give a damn about dungeon DLCs. Who knows if we will ever get a region DLC again, as they might just put it into a chapter and charge us again for what should be free content for ESO+ subscribers.

to me new region dlc's are pointless, there are zones enough to explore and farm till oblivion but not enough DLC dungeons. I've been waiting in vain at morrowind release for new veteran dungeons (not trial) and this I'm finally really happy with this one and especially the fact that they are nicecly done ! Hotr and this are the best expansions for me so as you see we each have our own whishes...;)

Yeah, that is ok, I am happy that you can enjoy it - but at the same time it is sad, that it will take an eternity to ever see "all of Tamriel" and I guess it will never be completed before the game servers will shut down for good some day. Every missed opportunity to add more of Tamriel is making it more and more certain, that the promise of "all of Tamriel" will never come true.

You are complaining about too much content?

I am complaining about too less DLCs with Tamriel provinces - the map of Tamriel is far from being done yet and with just about 1 or 2 pieces of land added each year it will most likely never be completed - that is my concern. i was away for over a year from ESO -and not much was added province-wise to the game since then in form of a DLC. Morrowind is great, but it is content we had to buy extra, not a DLC which would be accessible with the ESO+ membership.

WildRaptorX

It’s good to see some positivity on these forums

Pops_ND_Irish

Lysette wrote: »

I am happy for you enjoying it, but I am not interested in dungeon DLCs - so for me this is kinda worthless, a wasted opportunity to get some decent region DLC of the normal kind. The promise was "all of Tamriel" - and as long as there is so much missing from "all of Tamriel", I give a damn about dungeon DLCs. Who knows if we will ever get a region DLC again, as they might just put it into a chapter and charge us again for what should be free content for ESO+ subscribers.

Never satisfied !

Pops_ND_Irish

I haven't gotten the new content yet because i'm on ps4, but any new content of any type is very much appreciated, ZOS
I am sure I will enjoy no matter what.

ChuckyPayne

Just finished the 2 dungeon in normal mode. It is sooooo beautiful. Very cozy. ZOS's success is here, the feeling when u play, when u try and enjoy the enviroment.

Rex-Umbra

Happy costumers are in game playing. Maybe .1 of .1% of players use these forums and thats just too complain.

Darkstorne

Lysette wrote: »

I am happy for you enjoying it, but I am not interested in dungeon DLCs - so for me this is kinda worthless, a wasted opportunity to get some decent region DLC of the normal kind. The promise was "all of Tamriel" - and as long as there is so much missing from "all of Tamriel", I give a damn about dungeon DLCs. Who knows if we will ever get a region DLC again, as they might just put it into a chapter and charge us again for what should be free content for ESO+ subscribers.

Looks like the new model is new lands to explore every 6 months. A small chunk as the 4th DLC (free for ESO+), and a large chunk via paid chapters. And I'm fine with large chunks only happening in chapters from now on if it's not viable to keep them "free" like Wrothgar was. I'd rather not see them all end up small like the TG and DB DLC was, so I'm happy to pay a bit more each year.

Also, even though I don't have any interest in dungeons either it's still important for the health of the game. A lot of the hardcore community evangelists need dungeons to stay active and keep spreading the word about how good the game is. We don't want to lose them. We also don't want to lose the core PVP crowd, so where's that Cyrodiil-focused DLC Zeni?

SGT_Wolfe101st

ZOS_Holden wrote: »

Hi @josiahva,

Thank so much for your kind words, we're really glad to hear you're enjoying the new content!

We appreciate your feedback and the fact that you left the discussion open for varying view points. We do truly appreciate all feedback, whether it's constructive feedback criticism or compliments and praise, we can't wait to see more of what everyone thinks of the new content so far.

The forums are full of threads and topics of game breaking bugs in this new patch, with dozens of pages, between bar swap and the new chest deleting contents, to skill being bugged, the return of the long load screen 3.0, etc., etc. Not to mention the less than pleased masses on the cost of the costume slot or the cost of using the "Free" QOL custome tool, imagine my surprise that this was the thread that a MOD or Community Rep replies. Not a single comment on many of the other threads, not even a "We're aware..." When I read this topic this morning I thought, a blushing reply incoming from ZOS, and sure enough. Just sad!

zaria

ChuckyPayne wrote: »

Just finished the 2 dungeon in normal mode. It is sooooo beautiful. Very cozy. ZOS's success is here, the feeling when u play, when u try and enjoy the enviroment.

This, its always fun to do them the first time and figure out mechanics.
5.2M health must be record for an normal dungeon boss
I guess its so people would not burn past mechanic who took some time to figure out.

Smmokkee

josiahva wrote: »

With all the threads whining and complaining about the cosmetic appearance of housing storage, inevitable new bugs, and the cost of the outfit system, I wanted to take a moment to thank ZOS for the update. Sure, there are a few issues, but overall this DLC is great, it gave us 2 new DLC dungeons that I am enjoying...the ability to have my toon look like I want, and housing storage. I just don't see much any reason to complain and honestly it kinda disgusts me that the majority of community is unable to recognize the QOL improvements this patch brings. Feel free to suggest changes to ZOS, but realize we are better off post-patch than pre-patch.

It kinda disgusts me that you can forgive zos for all the performance issues and crown store love. Games performance is something to forget about but ZoS gave me the option to make my character look cool and if you want to completely flesh out the system well then spend a g ball.. LOL.

NyassaV

I agree, great job! Now fix everything else

josiahva

Smmokkee wrote: »

josiahva wrote: »

With all the threads whining and complaining about the cosmetic appearance of housing storage, inevitable new bugs, and the cost of the outfit system, I wanted to take a moment to thank ZOS for the update. Sure, there are a few issues, but overall this DLC is great, it gave us 2 new DLC dungeons that I am enjoying...the ability to have my toon look like I want, and housing storage. I just don't see much any reason to complain and honestly it kinda disgusts me that the majority of community is unable to recognize the QOL improvements this patch brings. Feel free to suggest changes to ZOS, but realize we are better off post-patch than pre-patch.

It kinda disgusts me that you can forgive zos for all the performance issues and crown store love. Games performance is something to forget about but ZoS gave me the option to make my character look cool and if you want to completely flesh out the system well then spend a g ball.. LOL.

I don't care about the crown store...the only time I buy anything from the place is with my subscription crowns, I certainly dont spend real money there(yes, I am aware the subscription is real money, but I pay the subscription for the DLC they are continually adding, the crowns are just a perk). As for the costume system, realistically speaking, "most" people will make one outfit per toon and never change them once they get the look they desire. I know I sure wont be changing outfits every 5 minutes, I have no intention of using more than one outfit per toon...I would rather spend the time playing. As for performance issue...the only time I ever run into any issues to speak of is in Cyrodiil, and while I would certainly like some improvement there, I suspect that is more than just writing a patch for the code, and even with the endless Cyrodiil load screens and lag issues for large battles, it doesn't stop me(or you I suspect) from playing there. Answer this question...are you better or worse off after this patch? The DLC patches are what I pay my subscription for....I doubt I would sub if I never got new content, just(marginally) improved performance.

Saturn

josiahva wrote: »

With all the threads whining and complaining about the cosmetic appearance of housing storage, inevitable new bugs, and the cost of the outfit system, I wanted to take a moment to thank ZOS for the update. Sure, there are a few issues, but overall this DLC is great, it gave us 2 new DLC dungeons that I am enjoying...the ability to have my toon look like I want, and housing storage. I just don't see much any reason to complain and honestly it kinda disgusts me that the majority of community is unable to recognize the QOL improvements this patch brings. Feel free to suggest changes to ZOS, but realize we are better off post-patch than pre-patch.

I've highlighted the parts I disagree with. Bugs aren't inevitable, you can choose to not release content until it runs properly, instead of having to resort to day one hotfixes, although bugs are unfortunately an inevitable part of the ESO experience. They consistently break major game mechanics with every update in new, fun and exciting ways, and we players then have to maneuver through this bug-ridden minefield, and somehow still justify to ourselves that paying for content like that is a good thing.

That you "don't see a reason to complain" means you are ignoring the blatantly obvious problems. Don't get me wrong I would praise ZOS to the heavens if they actually could for once deliver a good bug-free experience, but they haven't been able to deliver on that front, and I think it's important to let them know that this isn't okay.

When you ignore the problems, you are basically just enabling them to go on with this way of making updates for the game, which I find to be quite offensive to their players, who invest time and money into it.

We might well be better off post-patch, but the comparison is like saying a slightly rotten apple is better than a totally rotten apple, while it's true, it's still a bad comparison, as you are not taking the ideal situation into account, but instead finding that it's okay to eat partly rotten apples as opposed to fresh ones. Perhaps it's a bad analogy, but basically you should strive for ZOS to make the best game they possibly can, not just settle with what you are given and then defend it no matter what to justify your own time and money investments into the game.

Fanboying to the extent where you will permit shameful behaviour like this is worse than the threads that are "whining and complaining" about everything.

Tommy_The_Gun

Lysette wrote: »

I am happy for you enjoying it, but I am not interested in dungeon DLCs - so for me this is kinda worthless, a wasted opportunity to get some decent region DLC of the normal kind. The promise was "all of Tamriel" - and as long as there is so much missing from "all of Tamriel", I give a damn about dungeon DLCs. Who knows if we will ever get a region DLC again, as they might just put it into a chapter and charge us again for what should be free content for ESO+ subscribers.

Yep.. same here.. two new dungeons = 2 new skill points for me... and that's pretty much it...

Saturn

SGT_Wolfe101st wrote: »

ZOS_Holden wrote: »

Hi @josiahva,

Thank so much for your kind words, we're really glad to hear you're enjoying the new content!

We appreciate your feedback and the fact that you left the discussion open for varying view points. We do truly appreciate all feedback, whether it's constructive feedback criticism or compliments and praise, we can't wait to see more of what everyone thinks of the new content so far.

The forums are full of threads and topics of game breaking bugs in this new patch, with dozens of pages, between bar swap and the new chest deleting contents, to skill being bugged, the return of the long load screen 3.0, etc., etc. Not to mention the less than pleased masses on the cost of the costume slot or the cost of using the "Free" QOL custome tool, imagine my surprise that this was the thread that a MOD or Community Rep replies. Not a single comment on many of the other threads, not even a "We're aware..." When I read this topic this morning I thought, a blushing reply incoming from ZOS, and sure enough. Just sad!

I think they must be in an echo-chamber, but the only words that reach their ears are the ones of praise. I honestly wouldn't mind if they took their time to fix the game-breaking bugs before releasing content. I mean ffs, they had to hotfix something day 1, despite the DLC being on the PTS for over a month. Not to mention they managed to bring back bugs that they already fixed, like WW form breaking when hit with certain skills, getting stuck in ridiculously long loadscreens in BGs after dying, and so on. It's frustrating being a player of this game, which so clearly doesn't properly QA their content for release, and consistently break the game with every update.