Praise Vivec for no-CP Battlegrounds!

Vermintide

I'm wrecking people left right and centre all of a sudden.

Surely it wasn't just CP holding me back this entire time? Was it? Seriously?

Alas. Who am I to question it.

Morgul667

No CP BG is fun

AverageJo3Gam3r

I'm on console. Can't wait for the end of the month.

Waffennacht

Vermintide wrote: »

I'm wrecking people left right and centre all of a sudden.

Surely it wasn't just CP holding me back this entire time? Was it? Seriously?

Alas. Who am I to question it.

If you're not max, it definitely would be a factor

If you're max and you put them in the wrong trees, that also was holding you back

Finally if your build was weak against meta CP builds (such as permablock) then also yes.

If none of the above is true, then it's your day to mash potatoes

FloppyTouch

Won't be going into bgs with the buff to stam builds(everything can be dodge) it will be worst then fighting tanks. By this I mean I can't damage them at all then they just burst me in a second. Have fun dodging all over the place with each other I'm done.

magictucktuck

its awesome again! much better and i was playing cp also

Vapirko

Dust of those proc sets.

TimeDazzler

Waffennacht wrote: »

Vermintide wrote: »

I'm wrecking people left right and centre all of a sudden.

Surely it wasn't just CP holding me back this entire time? Was it? Seriously?

Alas. Who am I to question it.

If you're not max, it definitely would be a factor

If you're max and you put them in the wrong trees, that also was holding you back

Finally if your build was weak against meta CP builds (such as permablock) then also yes.

If none of the above is true, then it's your day to mash potatoes

Or none of the above because CP allows for your mistakes to go unpunished/allows you to tank or heal 4 fully spec'd DPS's

Minno

Cries wrote: »

Waffennacht wrote: »

Vermintide wrote: »

I'm wrecking people left right and centre all of a sudden.

Surely it wasn't just CP holding me back this entire time? Was it? Seriously?

Alas. Who am I to question it.

If you're not max, it definitely would be a factor

If you're max and you put them in the wrong trees, that also was holding you back

Finally if your build was weak against meta CP builds (such as permablock) then also yes.

If none of the above is true, then it's your day to mash potatoes

Or none of the above because CP allows for your mistakes to go unpunished/allows you to tank or heal 4 fully spec'd DPS's

Wait for the other nCP tank teams to make build adjustments.

Mayrael

Vermintide wrote: »

I'm wrecking people left right and centre all of a sudden.

Surely it wasn't just CP holding me back this entire time? Was it? Seriously?

Alas. Who am I to question it.

Well I don't care... CP or noCP Im doing fine anyway but if you need noCP BGs to shine... Well

BrockofPercival

Still learning but the new sets from the new dungeons seem like game changers. It seems to me that no-cp will have a brutally low TTK in about 1-2 weeks.

I pvp a bit but have not yet reached 500+ cp, so I don't do cp stuff. I read/hear that cp makes you tougher and that makes perfect sense, so TTK is lower in CP, higher in non-cp.

The new dungeon sets seem to be for CP players and I imagine the new dungeons are a tick up in difficulty and require a high CP (at least for core elements of a group). How this plays out in CP PvP, not sure but my gut says lowered TTK which may not be a bad things since complaints centered around unkillable this and that.

But in non-cp TTK is fast (IMO), obviously who you face makes a big difference but some of the sets in the game already made for very fast TTK. These new sets seem like Sotha will just be people exploding as you do you best not to get targeted as you make people explode.

Granted, can't be sure yet, but that is my feeling. Curious what others think. I basically feel like I should not bother with 50 pvp unless I have a super set, or are a very tanky tank or healer (40k+ health, etc.), especially in non-cp. Vicecanons already seemed like a bad idea and now we have many more sets that seem as op, though that does help balance the non-stealthers.

And, seems like new PvP sets are needed that one can get via AP. Can be pricey but at least they should exist.

So, thoughts?

Vermintide

Waffennacht wrote: »

If you're not max, it definitely would be a factor

If you're max and you put them in the wrong trees, that also was holding you back

Finally if your build was weak against meta CP builds (such as permablock) then also yes.

If none of the above is true, then it's your day to mash potatoes

I'm CP420ish, I haven't exactly been min-maxing those points either. I had a feeling that the block-troll builds played a part, but still. Didn't think it would be this night and day.

I've always stuck to no-CP in Cyro, and done reasonably well- Until I inevitably get flattened by a zerg. I think the pace and scale in BGs is just more my speed.

Thogard

Resource poisons are a real problem in no cp.

Otherwise I love it

Joy_Division

Vermintide wrote: »

I'm wrecking people left right and centre all of a sudden.

Surely it wasn't just CP holding me back this entire time? Was it? Seriously?

Alas. Who am I to question it.

Yeah, why bother questioning anything?

Because just removing CP magically makes the game better. Nevermind that all of our classes have been hit with huge nerfs because of CP system. Taking away CP and leaving the nerfs means were just playing neutered classes with mechanics intended and balanced for CP.

sirrmattus

Vermintide wrote: »

I'm wrecking people left right and centre all of a sudden.

Surely it wasn't just CP holding me back this entire time? Was it? Seriously?

Alas. Who am I to question it.

no, it was miats addon carrying all the scrubs that thought they were good but are garbage now. sick to my stomach finding out about this trash addon

sirrmattus

Waffennacht wrote: »

Vermintide wrote: »

I'm wrecking people left right and centre all of a sudden.

Surely it wasn't just CP holding me back this entire time? Was it? Seriously?

Alas. Who am I to question it.

If you're not max, it definitely would be a factor

If you're max and you put them in the wrong trees, that also was holding you back

Finally if your build was weak against meta CP builds (such as permablock) then also yes.

If none of the above is true, then it's your day to mash potatoes

permablock build killing people? cmon dude

Lexxypwns

@BrockofPercival TTK in noCP is tricky. On the surface it appears lower. However, if you’ve got an opponent who is built for crazy sustain at the cost of some damage it can actually increase TTK quite a lot since you won’t be able to get a huge burst off that they can’t recover from.

The no-CP meta is at least 1 damage proc set(resource free damage, boosts your sustain burst and pressure) and then stack sustain while adding more damage in only after adequate sustain is reached

Minno

Lexxypwns wrote: »

@BrockofPercival TTK in noCP is tricky. On the surface it appears lower. However, if you’ve got an opponent who is built for crazy sustain at the cost of some damage it can actually increase TTK quite a lot since you won’t be able to get a huge burst off that they can’t recover from.

The no-CP meta is at least 1 damage proc set(resource free damage, boosts your sustain burst and pressure) and then stack sustain while adding more damage in only after adequate sustain is reached

Thanks for the insight!