Umm.... Can we nerf "total dark" now?

Vapirko · February 2018

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

Oh look... Another person who wants to nerf something, because they are struggling against it within a PvP environment.

How about no. There is more to ESO than PvP, and I as well as numerous others are absolutely tired of having PvE nerfed due to PvP’ers complaints. Enough already.

PvE is responsible for some of the biggest nerfs this game has ever seen. Get off your high horse, that argument is so old. Total dark isn’t even a useful PvE skill.

Ch4mpTW · February 2018

Vapirko wrote: »

Ch4mpTW wrote: »

Oh look... Another person who wants to nerf something, because they are struggling against it within a PvP environment.

How about no. There is more to ESO than PvP, and I as well as numerous others are absolutely tired of having PvE nerfed due to PvP’ers complaints. Enough already.

PvE is responsible for some of the biggest nerfs this game has ever seen. Get off your high horse, that argument is so old. Total dark isn’t even a useful PvE skill.

Such as...?

danno8 · February 2018

It is broken by "break-free" and can't be recast on you while you have the CC immunity buff.

I take it you just didn't know this by your edited post that originally said "It's not CC".

So, now that you know, you should go back to your OP and edit in "never mind, I just learned how I can remove it and become immune to it everytime" and not have to concern yourself with Total Dark ever again.

imredneckson · February 2018

Can we just leave Templars alone before we start nerfing every class to the point we can only fight with light and heavy attacks.

technohic · February 2018

imredneckson wrote: »

Can we just leave Templars alone before we start nerfing every class to the point we can only fight with light and heavy attacks.

The original 4 classes have been neutered so much; they are becoming uninteresting to play save for NB as is. It’s way out of control.

They need to look at the next balance pass as “how do we make all classes feel powerful and fun to play rather then beat down the nails that stand out. “. I’m afraid that won’t sell expansions with new classes and proc sets though.

WuffyCerulei · February 2018

No, it's one of the few counters to builds like deep breath-spamming tanks and whatnot. And it gives you cc immunity afterwards, so whateves.

DoctorESO · February 2018

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Wrecking_Blow_Spam · February 2018

Yes nerf it to oblivion, it's to op! Did you know putting total dark on a player reflects their dizzying swing?

troll face emote...

Goshua · February 2018

Wrecking_Blow_Spam wrote: »

Yes nerf it to oblivion, it's to op! Did you know putting total dark on a player reflects their dizzying swing?
troll face emote...

any direct damage

FloppyTouch · February 2018

This ability is just fine not op in anyway

I’m laughing hard at the comments of stop nerfing pve bc of pvp, this argument does not work when a skill is not used in pve XD

Azurya · February 2018

OP @Ihatenightblades =ultimate NERF NERD

in that sense NO, just NO!
have a nice day!

Ch4mpTW · February 2018

WhitePawPrints wrote: »

WhitePawPrints wrote: »

humpalicous wrote: »

Please, stop with the nerf calls, just tired of everything being nerfed all of the time. The Warden is underachieving as is, why destroy the class even more?

I spammed Healing Thicket over and over again in PVP the other day and people still died.

This OP has called for nerfs on almost every underperforming class/ability/set I've seen. Everyone should know to not even entertain this fool.

This is from months ago! SERIOUSLY, STOP EVEN GIVING ANYTHING BY THIS USER A CLICK!

@WhitePawPrints Soooo much truth. I regret even clicking this thread, and responding after looking into some of OP’s previous posts.

zaria · February 2018

Danksta wrote: »

Ihatenightblades wrote: »

technohic wrote: »

Umm just break free.

Its too much damage and healing

Then just break free....

Also I think you should set some goals for yourself OP. How about only 1 "nerf this skill" post per month. Just in the past month you've created threads that complained about Reverberating Bash and Extended Ritual. Those two plus this makes three, which happens to be half of your created threads in that time frame. Kind of makes it hard to take you seriously.

Nerf requests should cost 50-100 CP.

Zbigb4life · February 2018

Ihatenightblades wrote: »

Umm ya.. if this isn't the most broken skill in game i dont know what is.

Mag templar can do fine without it. Nerf pls.

The numbers are just too much

Funny guy you

Juhasow · February 2018

Ok but bring back old shards CC with one of morphs beeing unblockable one.

Feanor · February 2018

I don’t understand the thread. The OP hates Nightblades, yet wants to nerf Total Dark. I’m confused.

RobbieRocket · February 2018

Awful singularly personal thread that has no place is being taken seriously.
If there had been a volume of evidence, numbers, situational break-downs, pros and cons, etc. then this thread could have gone somewhere but all I feel when I read the OP is...

"I just died and it was frustrating, it didn't feel fair, I want to win, I need something to blame and somewhere to put my frustration.."

Datthaw · February 2018

They need to buff it tbh, make it unbreakable. Maybe give it a dot. Maybe a snare too. I think it needs to do a busrt damage also for the amount of distance moved. It should also have empower for your next skill and apply major defile.

W0lf_z13 · February 2018

" someone killed me with X ability!!!... I'm the best!!! i shouldn't die to anyone!!! it must be nerfed!!!"

really getting tired of nerf posts and things being nerfed in this game

technohic · February 2018

Datthaw wrote: »

They need to buff it tbh, make it unbreakable. Maybe give it a dot. Maybe a snare too. I think it needs to do a busrt damage also for the amount of distance moved. It should also have empower for your next skill and apply major defile.

Templars do not want or need an empower buff. Sorcery will work though.

vyndral13preub18_ESO · February 2018

Ihatenightblades wrote: »

Umm ya.. if this isn't the most broken skill in game i dont know what is.

Ihatenightblades wrote: »

maxjapank wrote: »

Omg @Ihatenightblades . When will you stop making "nerf" threads. If you are dying to my Total Dark, you deserve to die.

Its only annoying in duels. I laugh at people if they use it on open world.

So to sum up, it is the most broken skill in the game. But is only annoying in duels and laughable anywhere else.

The bar you have set for most broken skill in the game seems to be really low... a skill that is as you say only annoying and only in one very limited game mode.

If this is the most broken skill in the game the devs are doing fantastic.

Joy_Division · February 2018

This is the ultiamte L2P issue. All the target needs to do is break free, then there is zero redirect damage, zero healing whatsoever, movement is not snared or rooted, the is no knocked down or stun, in short pretty much nothing bad happens to the target at all (in contrast to other class CCs like Fear, fossilize, Rune cage, etc).

It's one thing for players to whine on these forums and to ZoS in hope that they'll nerf stuff so they'll be better. The OP is going beyond that and whining to the devs because they are too lazy to CC break.

[edit for rude commentary]

W0lf_z13 · February 2018

if it was a duel then you got outplayed! ..... you can break free from total dark .... that only leaves us to believe that your opponent won by running you out of stamina..... OR you just didn't care to break free from it ... which if that's the case the blame is on you and not that the skill is "OP"

W0lf_z13 · February 2018

Joy_Division wrote: »

This is the ultiamte L2P issue. All the target needs to do is break free, then there is zero redirect damage, zero healing whatsoever, movement is not snared or rooted, the is no knocked down or stun, in short pretty much nothing bad happens to the target at all (in contrast to other class CCs like Fear, fossilize, Rune cage, etc).

It's one thing for players to whine on these forums and to ZoS in hope that they'll nerf stuff so they'll be better. The OP is going beyond that and whining to the devs because they are too lazy to CC break.

COMPLETELY agree with you!!! ... def sounds like a L2P issue

[minor edit for quote]

Wrubius_Coronaria · February 2018

Ihatenightblades wrote: »

Umm ya.. if this isn't the most broken skill in game i dont know what is.

Mag templar can do fine without it. Nerf pls.

The numbers are just too much

If something really need a nerf actually, it's bleeding and snares.

Koensol · February 2018

Even more templar nerfs? Really? L2 f'ing P.

zaria · February 2018

Feanor wrote: »

I don’t understand the thread. The OP hates Nightblades, yet wants to nerf Total Dark. I’m confused.

Think the overall confusion is pretty high in this tread.

Think an large group of drunken Nords and an curved sword.

Yakidafi · February 2018

FloppyTouch wrote: »

This ability is just fine not op in anyway

I’m laughing hard at the comments of stop nerfing pve bc of pvp, this argument does not work when a skill is not used in pve XD

Hey! I saw it used in a pub vdsa run. When I asked why he used it, he said he did not use it, so I guess he did not know he had it on his bar.
Maybe just switched from pvp and forgot, who knows. He left the group though bcs he died alot...

A_G_G_R_O · February 2018

People in EsO usually be like:
As a former emperor I’ll have you know...... it’s nerfed and should be deleted. I know things too because I got emperor costume. Why isn’t anyone listening , “this your former emperor speaking!”.

Neoauspex · February 2018

Zero agrees on the original post. Might want to break free mate.